WhiteKnight77 Posted January 22, 2004 Share Posted January 22, 2004 ...I can almost guarantee that if a similar poll was in say PC Gamer or a similar publication about which Computer game would rock their world in 2004...16% would not say GR2... I bet more would say that they wanted GR2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixelion Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 It is hard to believe that such a sim game as GR2 could make it to consoles, i mean i could understand r6 because it is fairly fast paced. However GR2 is far more methodical, slower and requires eagle-eye precision something I doubt you can do on a wretched TV screen and without a proper desk and chair. Not to metion that consolers mainly play for instant self gratification, consoles are essentially the porn of video games. Unfourtunatly for them GR does not provide this in the least bit it is a far more serious game one that requires commitment i.e clans, ladders and such. I dont care how consoles try to replicate this the experince simply connot be duplicated. Ultimatly SOCOM and such games will dominate the consoles there is simply no room for a highly sophisticated game like GR2 and a measly 733Mhz Xbox which I SERIOUSLY doubt will even run the game properly especially when you consider that GR2 will have HUGE maps (unlike UT 2k3 for example) and therefore will require significant system recources, which may also be a problem.....but not for me My brother has foolishly purchased an Xbox and after playing with him for a while I realize that it is ultimatly an asthetic experiance, not at all a competitive experiance. SOCOM was the closest thing we got to good multiplayer squad based game, but after a half hour we went back to RvS and felt right at home. So dont fret about GR2 coming out on Xbox first, it will be exceptional on the PC so look forward to it I promise you will enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 It is hard to believe that such a sim game as GR2 could make it to consoles, i mean i could understand r6 because it is fairly fast paced. However GR2 is far more methodical, slower and requires eagle-eye precision something I doubt you can do on a wretched TV screen and without a proper desk and chair. I hear ya, but that didn't stop Ubi Soft putting Island Thunder in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixelion Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 True but it did very poorly here are some Gamespot scores for ya. if you dont believe that such abysmall scores could be gven to such a great game look for yer self...www.gamespot.com PS2 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon -- Score 5.5/10 PS2 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island Thunder -- CANCELED! PS2 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm -- Not Released but delayed. SUCKBOX Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Island Thunder -- 7.9 Doesn't that make you feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted January 24, 2004 Share Posted January 24, 2004 Doesn't that make you feel better? Hey, I had the misfortune to play it on the XBox, it'll take more than a few mediocre scores to make me feel better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Edge Posted January 25, 2004 Share Posted January 25, 2004 Ghost Recon: Island Thunder XBOX got better scores than GR PC on Gamespot, as did GR Xbox. If you take all the sites that reviewed all these games and calculate the average, GR PC was reviewed the worst. (http://www.gamerankings.com) 7.9 for GR: IT xbox isn't "poor." As a sidenote, Gamespot is the worst review site around. They love all of EA's games. If a game has alot of hype and a big budget, gamespot will give it a good review regardless of the quality of the game. Use gamerankings instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SounDWavE Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 GR is perfect for PC, the cool mouse interface, amazing Mods and Gaming community have ensured and proven that. If Ubi think that pushing software for the Xbox helps to avoid piracy, well then they'd be wrong, cos I know guys who have gigs'n'gigs of pirated Xbox stuff, if a hacker wants to rip-off a game then they will do regardless of format. Recon on the PC made Ubi rich, and they repay us by knocking us down to 3rd in the software sequel food-chain, thats ######d up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STU_Snake Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Ghost Recon: Island Thunder XBOX got better scores than GR PC on Gamespot, as did GR Xbox. If you take all the sites that reviewed all these games and calculate the average, GR PC was reviewed the worst. (http://www.gamerankings.com) 7.9 for GR: IT xbox isn't "poor." As a sidenote, Gamespot is the worst review site around. They love all of EA's games. If a game has alot of hype and a big budget, gamespot will give it a good review regardless of the quality of the game. Use gamerankings instead. man, I hear you. Its like they paid them off or soemthing. pick up PC gamer, there harsh yet fair. and btw, Gr got an original score of 88% go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchillo* Posted April 7, 2004 Author Share Posted April 7, 2004 HI ALL!! <<I Told You Guys >> CHEERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syncopator Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 The fact that both these magazines focus on console games helps to verify our suspicions that GR2 will show up on consoles first. This is not surprising considering the console versions of GR1 have outsold the PC version, despite being released over a year later. To those that were outraged about the console platform being 'preferred' by UBI...there is the sound business reason. Anyone here who still thinks they are mad would make a very sorry businessman indeed. It's a simple fact. Live with it. It will follow on PC, I'm sure, we just need to bide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormcrow Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 It will follow on PC, I'm sure, we just need to bide. But I just can't Sync........I just can't wait any longer....(skeletor voice)...I must have it.........snyarrr....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 The fact that both these magazines focus on console games helps to verify our suspicions that GR2 will show up on consoles first. This is not surprising considering the console versions of GR1 have outsold the PC version, despite being released over a year later. To those that were outraged about the console platform being 'preferred' by UBI...there is the sound business reason. Anyone here who still thinks they are mad would make a very sorry businessman indeed. It's a simple fact. Live with it. It will follow on PC, I'm sure, we just need to bide. We can understand the logic, but we don't have to like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walnut Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 We can understand the logic, but we don't have to like it! I'm not paying for some crappy port of a console game. I'm sick of quality games being dumbed down for consoles with sub par UI, sub par player controls, sub par textures, and sub par gameplay. Hey, it may make them mo' money, mo' money, mo' money, but that does little for us hardcore consumers, doesn't it? It may take a few more product cycles and a few more financial reports, but eventually they may figure it out... that is if there weren't so many damned 12 year olds with consoles... I'll vote with my wallet on this one, if the reports are true. Not incidentally, I would venture to guess that this, expressly, is the reason why they've been so hush-hush about this game. Ever wonder why Ubi announces new titles and sequels FOR EVERY OTHER GAME THEY'RE PRODUCING, yet there's STILL no official word on GR2? Feh. I'm still holding out till E3, but it's looking like I might be playing more GR mods from the community rather than playing GR2 this year... hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR_32 Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 The one thing that gets me a bit ######....UBI buys RSE for the right to put their name on the titles that RSE produces...UBI then decides to screw over the folks who made RSE games popular. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTOMac Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 You go NYR_32 - I absolutely Agree... Sincerely, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suli Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 "I'll vote with my wallet on this one, if the reports are true." agreed, im just glad so many other great pc games have been or are coming out. sorry to say but i dont even remember how to change clips in gr anymore, i have to get a refresher from the guys every time we play. and untill a number of months ago i was a devoted RSE gamer, it was them or nothing. oh well . and if they do come out with the best thing ever, great for RSE im sure ill be hearing from my team mates i just got to get it. and maybe i will when the price goes down and they've have released there usual series of major patches. in the mean time ill stick with Far Cry, and maybe soldner if i can ever get this demo running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainman2k Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 The fact that both these magazines focus on console games helps to verify our suspicions that GR2 will show up on consoles first. This is not surprising considering the console versions of GR1 have outsold the PC version, despite being released over a year later. To those that were outraged about the console platform being 'preferred' by UBI...there is the sound business reason. Anyone here who still thinks they are mad would make a very sorry businessman indeed. It's a simple fact. Live with it. It will follow on PC, I'm sure, we just need to bide. We can understand the logic, but we don't have to like it! i hope ubi does not make the mistake interplay did. "concentrating on consoles" and shutting down black isle an cancelling fallout 3 in favor for the console-title fallout: bos, which hasnt much to do with the original-franchise at all. second: beneath the better sales for gr1 on consoles is the thing with illegal copies. console-titles are harder to copy. and thats imo the second reason for the companies to prefer console-releases. simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calius Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Seeing as the news looks mainly to be console for release of GR2 now I guess its time to accept the fact. SO, in a way, I have .. although I think its a crap way to go. Then again atleast we can "try before we bother to think about buying" via games shops etc & have a nose at GR2 on the console & realise if its a stinking pile or not. Better than Paying on pc and then realising its not good (I realy hope it isnt bad, Im a damaged Raven Shield hater now). Also, we can then watch the game unfold from version 1.0 and onward to see what improvement are made before it comes over to PC. If it looks like a winner then we will be fired up to get it & wont have to belive the hype as we will know its a corker which will be good for the community too. Lets forget its console first and think about it another way - the console users are the guinee pigs for the game & we will then be the recipients of a better game in the longrun. On the flip side we also see if its a load of crap and then know not to buy it when it does arrive on pc ... simple as that .. I hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Seeing as the news looks mainly to be console for release of GR2 now I guess its time to accept the fact. SO, in a way, I have .. although I think its a crap way to go. Then again atleast we can "try before we bother to think about buying" via games shops etc & have a nose at GR2 on the console & realise if its a stinking pile or not. Better than Paying on pc and then realising its not good (I realy hope it isnt bad, Im a damaged Raven Shield hater now). Also, we can then watch the game unfold from version 1.0 and onward to see what improvement are made before it comes over to PC. If it looks like a winner then we will be fired up to get it & wont have to belive the hype as we will know its a corker which will be good for the community too. Lets forget its console first and think about it another way - the console users are the guinee pigs for the game & we will then be the recipients of a better game in the longrun. On the flip side we also see if its a load of crap and then know not to buy it when it does arrive on pc ... simple as that .. I hope GR2 will be released on all platforms, so the idea that people who play on the cosoles are the guinea pigs wont really happen. This game is being developed for each platform. We just gotta have faith in Ubi, they brought us GR1 after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calius Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 True .. now after the official news im less sceptical about length of time to get to pc if it did console first - so all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordVampyre Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 People just don't see how much better PCs can get, I think PCs are more for older people, as to own a computer you need to have a good knowledge of how a computer system works, what you need to run it safely and effectively, what upgrades are available and thier specs (e.g. what RAM is etc). But with consoles it's bung in a CD and play.... ah what do you consider older???? and me being 52 where does that put me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordVampyre Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 hummm are games such as Far Cry and Doom3 coming out on consoles? wonder how the graphics and control would be with those games.... things that make you go hummmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 People just don't see how much better PCs can get, I think PCs are more for older people, as to own a computer you need to have a good knowledge of how a computer system works, what you need to run it safely and effectively, what upgrades are available and thier specs (e.g. what RAM is etc). But with consoles it's bung in a CD and play.... Why do you think that just older people can own a PC. I am at least twice your age, yet you have a PC that can play games, no such critters when I was your age. If anything some of us older folks who toyed with early PCs, yet never owned one should have more problems understanding what is needed to run PC games. True story. 4 years ago I didn't have a PC to my name. I played on my now ex-gf's son's PC every once in a while. I had always wanted a PC of my own but couldn't afford one. One day I finally got one and went out and bought the Rainbow Six Gold Edition (I had wanted R6 from the time I read the hardback book and read that there was a PC game in the works). Here it is over 3 1/2 years later and I can build my own PC, but 4 years ago, I wouldn't have known a motherboard from a network card (I'm sure that there are many others out there like me too). At least Ubi will release RSE's GR2 on all platforms, but I will get it for PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 People just don't see how much better PCs can get, I think PCs are more for older people, as to own a computer you need to have a good knowledge of how a computer system works, what you need to run it safely and effectively, what upgrades are available and thier specs (e.g. what RAM is etc). But with consoles it's bung in a CD and play.... And also there is the money issue...at this moment an Xbox (at 149$$$) is about 5 time cheaper than the average PC $1000(not the lowest Desktops at 600 or the highest end at 2000+) You can buy an XBox and 17 games for just the price of a PC that can run those games... And also in a study by Activision and Nielson it says that console gamers are getting older (alot of 17 to 34 year old) so maybe it isnt just the money...maybe it is the ease of use that draws people to consoles "Well I can buy this PC...deal with Viruses, upgrades, and various other pains in the ######es or I can get this XBox and not have to mess with anly of that just get the games put in the disc and play until the disc melts" sounds like an easy one to me (I only used the XBox as a comparison because that is the console I have not dissin PS2 or GC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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