5timechamp Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 all i want is an m14 to be in the game... it was my favorite weapon in summit strike. Just love the stopping power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph_Q Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 all i want is an m14 to be in the game... it was my favorite weapon in summit strike. Just love the stopping power. Why not, i like this weapon too, one of Delta Force snipers on Blackhawk Down were using scoped M14 if im correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 All that is needed it the ability to kill a guy without emptying 50% of a whole clip from a SCAR and for him to turn around and take you out with one shot !!! Realism ?? Define realism, GRIN realism or real life ? The problem with GRAW1 is all this talk about how good body armour is in the year 2013 but we know body armour or not, 90% of bullets kill so 1/2 clip will kill 100% (on target), but in GRAW1 you can survive.... realism, NOT I would like to see a selection of weapons, I would like to see realism as defined by life and not by GRIN's interpretation of it. This game was the spiritual successor of [GR] but is anything but...... and that is where the problem lies with it. We want weapons, we want realism, we want no lag...but we get GRAW1 I use to play [GR] on a 56k modem (5.6kbytes) and it had none of the laggy net coding we see in GRAW1, to get realism this is a primary concern. The weapons in GRAW1 are probably fine (and a few more would be nice too) but the performance of the weapon as defined in the coding of GRAW1 has issues and this may or may not be due to laggy net code over the internet but with the average user on 1mBit down/ 256Kbit up you would think this would not be the case...... I hope it is sorted by GRAW2 and realism will follow.... viii my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WytchDokta Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) I hope it is sorted by GRAW2 and realism will follow.... viii So do I, or some propaganda posters might be put into circulation as happened upon release of GRAW. I wouldn't know anything about that though.... i want my P90 !!!! sorry had to say it again Well, I want my electro-magnetic railgun & particle beam weapon. Sorry, had to say it again. Edited January 24, 2007 by WytchDokta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pritzl Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 From what I gather, the AK is only used by special ops guys when they expect minimal resistance but want to dispatch that resistance without alerting other nearby units. The very distinctive sound of the AK means that if the enemy is using them, they won't be able to tell that the firefight they're listening to isn't just a bunch of their own guys firing into the air after a rough night out. Within the confines of GRAW, it would be neat to have them, but short of that depth of enemy AI "reasoning" (not to mention it doesn't seem to be what the enemy is using anyway) it would be pointless. It's too inaccurate a weapon for most purposes and it's one strong point, virtual indestructibility, means nadda in a game where there are no gun-jams, etc... i.e., any effort put into modelling it would be wasted since I doubt anyone would use it beyond the first couple of evaluation runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spm1138 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Erh? SR25, M249 SPW & M240 are not Colt weapons. Also M249 is in GRAW already, and it's basically the same weapon. Yeah. I know. I was referring specifically to the Colt weapons on that list missing from most recent Ubi games. My understanding was it was a disagreement over copyright or something like that GRAW had the Mk48? Different caliber and such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaww Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Im thrilled to hear that You hate my choose But i believe that it would be more interesting if You tell us which weapons You choosed. PS. GRAW is not only SP campaign you know... there is also MP .... so there is a place for weapons from outside of US SF and mexican army arsenal. I know I haven't posted in these forums in quite a while, but ever since I heard there will be a GR:AW 2, I thought of trying my best to make the game better from release time. When it comes to weapons, I'd like to see the realism that GRiN put in the first game. I thought the weapon realism was actually some of the best that I've seen in any game, to be honest (as well as RO:Ost). I'd like to see that retained, but to add some new weapons (including variations on old ones) would be nice. Assault Rifles: FN SCAR-L CQC, Standard, Sniper Variant (SV) FN SCAR-H CQC, Standard, Sniper Variant (SV) H&K 416 (5.56x45mm NATO) & 417 (7.62x51mm NATO) CRYE MR-C (6.8mm Caseless) - Maybe (No M-8, please) Squad Automatic Weapons: Mk. 48 Mod 0 Mk. 46 Mod 0 Designated Marksman / Sniper: Mk. 11 Mod 0 (SR-25) Mk. 14 Mod 0 (M-14) M-24 SWS M-95 Shotgun: M1014 (Benelli M4) Sub-Machine Guns: H&K MP5A6 H&K MP5SD6 H&K MP7 - Maybe Sidearms: Mk. 24 Mod 0 (Sig Sauer P226 "Tactical" 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W) H&K USP 45 Tactical (H&K's rehaul of the Mk. 23) 1911 Variant - Kimber (No M9, please) It's not so much that I hate your choices (hate is a pretty strong word), but I just don't think that a couple of them belong is all. But, I do like my choices better and they are (hopefully) closer to what the game will contain. I just wish the Beretta RX4 isn't the only new weapon in the game though. Your suggestions aren't so bad for multiplayer, but we haven't had that weapon variety apart from single player in AW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 GRAW had the Mk48? Different caliber and such? I don't have the time to check up on alternative names right now so don't know what exactly the Mk48 is, stick to production names and you'll get answers quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirites Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 i also wanna see in the game: hk 417 sniper variant SR-25 spr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spm1138 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 GRAW had the Mk48? Different caliber and such? I don't have the time to check up on alternative names right now so don't know what exactly the Mk48 is, stick to production names and you'll get answers quicker. Er... you were just telling me what a Mk48 was :| M249/Mk46 = Minimi 5.56 Mk48 = Minimi 7.62 http://www.fnherstal.com/html/MINIMI762.htm Apparently the Mk48 has only just started being fielded so I guess it is probably more appropriate for a future armoury. A 5.56 version would be more appropriate for a modern day armoury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubota Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 A new proposal looking for new weapons, seems a good option for a future SMG: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103355 ... and here a shooting video... http://www.transformationaldefenseindustri...=7&Itemid=9 I know development isn't finished, but it's a "real" gun (anyone knows about a "real" CRYE ?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 GRAW had the Mk48? Different caliber and such? I don't have the time to check up on alternative names right now so don't know what exactly the Mk48 is, stick to production names and you'll get answers quicker. Er... you were just telling me what a Mk48 was :| M249/Mk46 = Minimi 5.56 Mk48 = Minimi 7.62 http://www.fnherstal.com/html/MINIMI762.htm Apparently the Mk48 has only just started being fielded so I guess it is probably more appropriate for a future armoury. A 5.56 version would be more appropriate for a modern day armoury. It was to early in the morning and I was heading to work in 2 minutes. I never told you what a Mk48 was. There is only a M249 in GRAW. And I wrote that as an answer to the M249SPW, which was the weapon you listed in the first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spm1138 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) I could be being monumentally thick here and I don't fancy reinstalling to check but I am fairly certain the weapon in GRAW is referred to everywhere as a Mk48. You could say it had a Minimi but M249 seems to refer only to the 5.56 weapon which is what I was asking for... since I was basically listing the "America's Army" armoury + this or that because I perhaps incorrectly assuming that is realistical. It's not like a vast difference and probably not worth 3 replies argument but anyways... I know development isn't finished, but it's a "real" gun (anyone knows about a "real" CRYE ?). http://www.cryeassociates.com/12.htm http://www.cryeassociates.com/work.html It has yet to be produced – even in prototype form – and the weapon was never entered into the OICW or follow-up rifle competition recently held by the US military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRYE_MR-C Edited January 24, 2007 by spm1138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Here is what i want. To be able to either kick/punch and enemy or hit them with the butt of my gun. Now that is stealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj7 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 I know I haven't posted in these forums in quite a while, but ever since I heard there will be a GR:AW 2, I thought of trying my best to make the game better from release time. When it comes to weapons, I'd like to see the realism that GRiN put in the first game. I thought the weapon realism was actually some of the best that I've seen in any game, to be honest (as well as RO:Ost). I'd like to see that retained, but to add some new weapons (including variations on old ones) would be nice. Assault Rifles: FN SCAR-L CQC, Standard, Sniper Variant (SV) FN SCAR-H CQC, Standartd, Sniper Variant (SV) H&K 416 (5.56x45mm NATO) & 417 (7.62x51mm NATO) CRYE MR-C (6.8mm Caseless) (No M-8, please) Squad Automatic Weapons: Mk. 48 Mod 0 Mk. 46 Mod 0 Designated Marksman / Sniper: Mk. 11 Mod 0 (SR-25) Mk. 14 Mod 0 (M-14) M-24 SWS M-95 Shotgun: M1014 (Benelli M4) Sub-Machine Guns: H&K MP5A6 H&K MP5SD6 H&K MP7 Sidearms: Mk. 24 Mod 0 (Sig Sauer P226 "Tactical" 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W) H&K USP 45 Tactical (H&K's rehaul of the Mk. 23) 1911 Variant (No M9, please) Just add a few of the weapons used by today's forces such as the M16/M4 and your list is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirites Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 (edited) the FN P90 is in the game ( xbox 360 ) Edited January 24, 2007 by Dirites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Here is what i want. To be able to either kick/punch and enemy or hit them with the butt of my gun. Now that is stealthWhat, no bayonet? How 'bout some claymores? Now that is stealth...with attitude. Click click click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacksaww Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I know I haven't posted in these forums in quite a while, but ever since I heard there will be a GR:AW 2, I thought of trying my best to make the game better from release time. When it comes to weapons, I'd like to see the realism that GRiN put in the first game. I thought the weapon realism was actually some of the best that I've seen in any game, to be honest (as well as RO:Ost). I'd like to see that retained, but to add some new weapons (including variations on old ones) would be nice. Assault Rifles: FN SCAR-L CQC, Standard, Sniper Variant (SV) FN SCAR-H CQC, Standartd, Sniper Variant (SV) H&K 416 (5.56x45mm NATO) & 417 (7.62x51mm NATO) CRYE MR-C (6.8mm Caseless) (No M-8, please) Squad Automatic Weapons: Mk. 48 Mod 0 Mk. 46 Mod 0 Designated Marksman / Sniper: Mk. 11 Mod 0 (SR-25) Mk. 14 Mod 0 (M-14) M-24 SWS M-95 Shotgun: M1014 (Benelli M4) Sub-Machine Guns: H&K MP5A6 H&K MP5SD6 H&K MP7 Sidearms: Mk. 24 Mod 0 (Sig Sauer P226 "Tactical" 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W) H&K USP 45 Tactical (H&K's rehaul of the Mk. 23) 1911 Variant (No M9, please) Just add a few of the weapons used by today's forces such as the M16/M4 and your list is perfect. Yeah, an M16A4 and an M4 would be fine (the HK416/417 is like them, but an improvement on the stoner design in that it uses a gas piston rather than direct). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubota Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 It's not like a vast difference and probably not worth 3 replies argument but anyways... I know development isn't finished, but it's a "real" gun (anyone knows about a "real" CRYE ?). http://www.cryeassociates.com/12.htm http://www.cryeassociates.com/work.html It has yet to be produced – even in prototype form – and the weapon was never entered into the OICW or follow-up rifle competition recently held by the US military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRYE_MR-C All the CRYE images are rendered, I didn`t see any real image (not even a mock weapon) in anywhere, and the same for the caseless ammunition. CRYE must develop the weapon system (gun & ammo) first and then be tested by the army (we must remember that's a totally new system, with different ammo and ergonomics) so I assume that takes much more time than conventional weapon-systems. IMHO is imposible to put in combat duty at 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I'd like the german Heckler and Koch G36 with AG36 4mm nade launcher...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 4mm nade launcher...... Those are some small nades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 4mm nade launcher...... Those are some small nades. hahah ooops 40 mm off course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRiN_DrHanke Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 hahah ooops 40 mm off course Too late. You're getting a 4mm GL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 hahah ooops 40 mm off course Too late. You're getting a 4mm GL. You're building me a private version of GRAW2 awesome I can't thank you enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirites Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 All the CRYE images are rendered, I didn`t see any real image (not even a mock weapon) in anywhere, and the same for the caseless ammunition. http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Dirites/3-1.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Dirites/2-3.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Dirites/1-2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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