NoQuarter Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 checks went well and the system integrity seems to be well too. we're almost there. Impressive! How are you handling the sighting of the new optics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waika Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think the fixes and game features sound great! But, I would suggest (and perfer) that fixes were kept seperate (as downloads and installers) from features. The reasons for this are many, but the primary one is mod 'features' can conflict, and many servers that might otherwise benefit from your patch may not be able to, or choose use it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fonzarelli TAW Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 The OICW should be in the game off the shelf! Check it out, false advertising!!!! Taken from the main menu video: Other than that, great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think the fixes and game features sound great! But, I would suggest (and perfer) that fixes were kept seperate (as downloads and installers) from features. The reasons for this are many, but the primary one is mod 'features' can conflict, and many servers that might otherwise benefit from your patch may not be able to, or choose use it... I think this is a very good point and if there are fixes that fall into this category... perhaps someone could just give the code to Grin and they could "slip" it into the next patch. Otherwise the mod could BE the next patch. And I would be MORE than willing to pay for such a mod/patch. It could be a "donation" ... to pay for beer and pizza for the programmers. Or donuts. Or sheep. Or whatever ya'll want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I think that sounds like a winner.. Any possibilities for 4 spawn zones for TDM maybe? with a set or random insertion option like in [GR] That would increase suspence and variability/direction of enemy contact and firefights The problem is for the laddering community, that the major ladders only do official versions of the game. Personally I 'll probably solve that by having dual GRAW directories (like I did for the beta). One with official install for matching etc and one GRAW directory when playing beta (or) moded GRAW like 'patched' with the file of yours... How can I have a double install? (have got two seperate HDD's ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 How can I have a double install? (have got two seperate HDD's ) I don't think it has to be on separate HD's... just install it to a different directory. This is also a good solution to working on mods and wanting to still play online. I just wonder what happens when you patch the game since the patch installer seems to find the installation of GRAW by itself. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 PROGRESS UPDATE: OICW INTEGRATION checks went well and the system integrity seems to be well too. we're almost there. looks great, only one thing.... One of the reasons for the canselled development of the OICW was weight! This baby weights in at 7kg's So IMO its OICW and no 3rd weapon slot. (like the sniper rifle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Thanks for the progress update, the XM29 series (OICW) was one of my favorits in [GR], BIG and heavy but very nice & accurate. I hope you include the 6x optical scope (variable) that was one the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I can hardly WAIT to get spawn raped by some kid with an OICW!! With my 12 inch subwoofer that will sound AWESOME!! But you know how fences and cars blow apart in this game... what about body parts??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wille Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I can hardly WAIT to get spawn raped by some kid with an OICW!! With my 12 inch subwoofer that will sound AWESOME!! But you know how fences and cars blow apart in this game... what about body parts??? cant really tell if you are being sarcastic or not ..its getting harder and harder as the years go by.. but if you are, dont be! even if they are adding a weapon you might not like they are doing it as a nice gesture, and that should always be appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I most definately appreciate the OICW being added to the game along with ANY additional weapon choice.. especially if the recoil is modeled correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wille Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 oh:) terribly sorry then, I just read "I can hardly WAIT to get spawn raped by some kid with an OICW!!" as sarcastic:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ59 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 (edited) Oh it WAS sarcastic!! But I still appreciate it. With a lot of things in life, you get to take the good with the bad. I will enjoy using the rapid fire GL... and won't enjoy having it used on me!! But just like those annoying air strikes in BF2, this will become part of the game. It'll teach us to take cover and keep our freaking heads down! Edited September 19, 2006 by AJ59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 How can I have a double install? (have got two seperate HDD's ) Very simple, and it works great, I just copied the directory containing GRAW to another location... Then created an extra shortcut (named differently) pointing to the new directory So far I haven't experienced any problem with entries in the Windows registry etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASGripen Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 But frankly are there any hope that the OICW will be used by armed forces 10 years into the future? Is it used today? I used it in [GR] sometimes, but the auto GL wasn't exactly what I wanted the kids to wield... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiles4 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Is it used today? I think the OICW was scrapped. This is an interesting thread. The only thing that concerns me is that we could end up with two different and incompatible "code paths" for lack of a better term - one with "Mugen" fixes and one with official GRIN fixes. That could be a major mess. I think it would be cool if Mugen has fixed something then possibly GRIN could incorporate it in a patch or at least evaluate it and see if it would be beneficial to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Is it used today? I think the OICW was scrapped. This is an interesting thread. The only thing that concerns me is that we could end up with two different and incompatible "code paths" for lack of a better term - one with "Mugen" fixes and one with official GRIN fixes. That could be a major mess. I think it would be cool if Mugen has fixed something then possibly GRIN could incorporate it in a patch or at least evaluate it and see if it would be beneficial to the game. There are a number of reasons why the OICW development was put on the shelf. Weight, trouble with human rights, effectiveness of the air-combusting grenades, price of the ammo (grenades cost $25 a piece) and the complexiness of the whole set... Though the grenadelauncher and the rifle part are still on development but seperate now. for complete info see http://world.guns.ru/assault/as40-e.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASGripen Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Well IMO then I do not see much reason for including the OICW in the game, it is as dead as techno. The AK 47, 74 et ali, is another thing, it will propbably bee in use for a long while from now. Perhaps some creative modder (yes Muggenpower I mean you) could try to make a version of the next generation of AK (probably a chinese one). When I am at it. Model the AICW instead of the scrapped OICW (only remembered by [GR] players atm). The concept are similar, with 3* 40 mm grenades without reload. See for example: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as72-e.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Well IMO then I do not see much reason for including the OICW in the game, it is as dead as techno. The AK 47, 74 et ali, is another thing, it will propbably bee in use for a long while from now. Perhaps some creative modder (yes Muggenpower I mean you) could try to make a version of the next generation of AK (probably a chinese one). When I am at it. Model the AICW instead of the scrapped OICW (only remembered by [GR] players atm). The concept are similar, with 3* 40 mm grenades without reload. See for example: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as72-e.htm By 2013 (game time) the OICW may of got a remake and come back... who knows and the faithfull AK(47) get real 2013 and AK47 only if your a jungle dweller... no Ghost would go into combat with an AK as weapon one. Any weapon adding to the collection would be welcome..... inc AK(19)47 ( how old !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASGripen Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Of course I do not se the ghost go AK other than picking up from the enemy. My point was just to humbly point out that one might encounter AK:s even 10 years from now. AICW is actually a coming gun, with the old OICW in mind when designed. Austraila is testing the AICW atm (in Jane's Oct 2005 issue) and OICW was last sighted at a museum. Actually the AICW is - at least as far as the concept of the gun goes - the afore mentioned remake of OICW. But what the heck, more guns for all: bring em all on. Of course I do not see the ghost go AK other than picking up from the enemy. My point was just to humbly point out that one might encounter AK:s even 10 years from now. AICW is actually a coming gun, with the old OICW in mind when designed. Australia is testing the AICW atm and OICW was last sighted at a museum. Actually the AICW is - at least as far as the concept of the gun goes - the aforementioned remake of OICW. But what the heck, more guns for all: bring em all on (as long as their effects are modelled in a realistic way). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugeN Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 Well perhaps the time of absence has caused the dwindling of this thread but fret not, only excuse i have is because we've been REALLY REALLY hard at work with this mod. And I shall take you up on this challenge JASGripen, though it may make release of the mod quite longer, I am actually drawing up a blueprint of the AK-47 XM . A new AK lol... So my work will be totally devoted to this at the moment, I will post scans of my blueprints and specifications of the gun and my vision. Followed by attempted 3d modelling. Also, if you see this as any update, my friends have begun alpha testing and debugging of Warfighter Mode We will soon be requesting Beta testers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF_Manti Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Well perhaps the time of absence has caused the dwindling of this thread but fret not, only excuse i have is because we've been REALLY REALLY hard at work with this mod. And I shall take you up on this challenge JASGripen, though it may make release of the mod quite longer, I am actually drawing up a blueprint of the AK-47 XM . A new AK lol... So my work will be totally devoted to this at the moment, I will post scans of my blueprints and specifications of the gun and my vision. Followed by attempted 3d modelling. Also, if you see this as any update, my friends have begun alpha testing and debugging of Warfighter Mode We will soon be requesting Beta testers. Count me in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Well IMO then I do not see much reason for including the OICW in the game, it is as dead as techno. The AK 47, 74 et ali, is another thing, it will propbably bee in use for a long while from now. Perhaps some creative modder (yes Muggenpower I mean you) could try to make a version of the next generation of AK (probably a chinese one). When I am at it. Model the AICW instead of the scrapped OICW (only remembered by [GR] players atm). The concept are similar, with 3* 40 mm grenades without reload. See for example: http://world.guns.ru/assault/as72-e.htm I don't think it was put in to be an additional weapon. It was put in to be a tribute to GR1 and make it "more GR1 like" which is what all of you have been griping you want. I used the OCIW with GL in GR1. It was a badazz weapon there... ask anyone who ever played against me... but GR1 didn't calculate the weight i'm betting as it was quick as all heck and settled the ret pretty quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splitz Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 This is great stuff Mugen. There are alot of us who appreciate your efforts and are looking forward to product. One this about the OICW to consider is weapon balance. A wep that has 6 (12 total) semiauto'd explosive rounds will literally blow away the rest of the wep choices. Maybe integrate Jas' AICW setup with 3 semiauto'd exposives without reload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JASGripen Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Well perhaps the time of absence has caused the dwindling of this thread but fret not, only excuse i have is because we've been REALLY REALLY hard at work with this mod. And I shall take you up on this challenge JASGripen, though it may make release of the mod quite longer, I am actually drawing up a blueprint of the AK-47 XM . A new AK lol... So my work will be totally devoted to this at the moment, I will post scans of my blueprints and specifications of the gun and my vision. Followed by attempted 3d modelling. Also, if you see this as any update, my friends have begun alpha testing and debugging of Warfighter Mode We will soon be requesting Beta testers. Nice indeed! I am really enjoying the prospect of seeing the result of this. Btw the AICW didn't send some shivers through your modder's spine? It is apperently a Steyr with integrated gl. I understand the OICW being more a GR tribute than something else, but I thought the purpose of the modd was to model weapons which actually are likely to show up on the future battlefield. The OICW was so good that it would dominate the game if it was introduced. Ok, one can nerf it, but then some of the tribute thing goes down the drain as it would be a rather bad weapon. Give Roco an AICW instead, which he can be badass with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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