budgie Posted June 21, 2004 Author Share Posted June 21, 2004 Now the airforce is jumping on the bandwagon with an Ugly Blue Tigerstripe. Personally I think they should use a digital to keep in line with the others, but develop their own pattern and shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicSnake Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Now the airforce is jumping on the bandwagon with an Ugly Blue Tigerstripe. Personally I think they should use a digital to keep in line with the others, but develop their own pattern and shades. What the hell is that supposed to blend with? Those AF uniforms defeat the whole purpose of camouflage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 One of the comments says: The purpose of them isn't too look good though, it's to blend in with the Tar Macs. Think about what an air craft carrier or run way looks like. From above you wouldn't be able to see the people running around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicSnake Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 Blend in with the tarmac? How? There's nothing to blend in with! It's a flat, GRAY surface. So how's a predominately blue uniform gonna camouflage them, even if it was possible to blend in out in the open? The runway boys dont need camo unless theyre working out in the field with an unpaved small forward airstrip (more on that later), the office jockeys definitely dont need it. So that leaves CCT's, PJ's etc who work out in the field, either a desert, woodland, or arctic enviroment. Except for MAYBE the arctic, that uniform ain't gonna blend in with a God damned thing. And aside from the fact it's useless in the situations it's needed for, it's just plain fugly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarauderMike Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 (edited) One of the comments says: The purpose of them isn't too look good though, it's to blend in with the Tar Macs. Think about what an air craft carrier or run way looks like. From above you wouldn't be able to see the people running around. The purpose of them isn't too look good though, it's to blend in with the Tar Macs. Think about what an air craft carrier or run way looks like. From above you wouldn't be able to see the people running around. Brilliant logic... this way the enemy missile/pilot won't hit Private Numnuts it will hit the LARGE FLOATING OBJECT in the ocean... Ahhh the Airforce.... just made my day... totally. Thank you for posting this portion of the thread budgie! Edited June 21, 2004 by MarauderMike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 MM, your quote makes it look like I said it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper6 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 You know whats been ###### me off for awhile? Why do soldiers have to pay for their uniforms? At least why do they have to pay for the utilities? Thats ridiculous, as if it aint bad enough they get paid minimum wage in the first place, they have to pay for everything the army gives them. What next? Do they have to pay for their ammo and weapon, too? soldiers also recieve a clothing allowance, to counter-balance what we have to spend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarauderMike Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 MM, your quote makes it look like I said it! Sorry Sart.. I fixed it... my bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Crocodile Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I wish the dsigner could reply in this tread so he could explain whatta hell did he based his researches on to come up with that. Maybe all the skinners here should develop a photoshop camo from scratch so he can be inspired...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 For the Army, it looks like they took the three colors most common to both woodland and desert and slapped them together. Thing is it's too dark to work in the desert all that well - maybe rocky scrub. In the woods it would do alright but then practically any combination of earthy greens and browns will do that. Again I think they should have at least a separate digital pattern for the desert. As for the Airforce - I guess they had it designed by Stevie Wonder or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro_Monty Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Incindentally - my first post in a long while. Last PC took a GIANT dump, lost all files, everything. Then had no PC for a long time. Now - I have a new box with great specs but can't bring myself to install GR because my enormously elaborate self-made mod is gone... I had modified EVERYTHING. Sigh... Hey, good to have you back. I was wondering where you had got to. Shame about the PC disaster... I hate it when stuff like that happens. *Creeps out of thread, hopefully not off-topicating (cool word, eh?) it* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Very glad to be back, I must say! Glad to be missed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 (edited) The neat thing about the US marines MARPAT is that it blends so well in jungle/woodland. But at the same time if it HAD to...it can hold its own in a desert environment. Plus the marines ALSO have a dedicated desert version of the marpat uniform. I knewwwwwwww the US army was going to get jealous and look to replace their aging uniforms. But while they have done a decent effort the decision to use only one color pattern for all environments is in my opinion ABSOLUTELY RETARDED!!!! I mean a guy could almost become invisible wearing marine marpat in the woods. But if I guy wore THAT thing in the woods he is goin to glow in the dark like a gamma irradiated neon sign! I mean as is the colors are fine for urban environments and desert environments but I am sorry I do not see how this even comes close to being a good jungle/woodland camo. The army spokesperson said it wasn't a 100% solution for all environments but its a good solution for all environments. Excuse me but if you want a 100 percent solution for all environments then make more than one version! And excuse me its not even a "good" solution for all environments. I mean its like people today can only see whats before them and can't really envision events that waiting for them just behind the corner. I say that because this uniform is really meant for desert combat. But I wonder what the army personnel stationed in South Korea are going to say when they realize that next year they are gonna have to wear that? Are the Army Rangers going to have to wear that too? Look, I know I'm not military but I just don't see how that is going to work effectively in the jungle. All future wars aren't all going to be in the desert. Right? Edited June 26, 2004 by Stalker_Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRT Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 i tinks you would be good in woodland..its green and brown. What more do you need. i know playing paintball in the woods its very hard to see those colours. I noticed tigerstripe was alittle noticable in the woods with the black stripes. With this you can become 1 with the forest..(*hopes none of my pb friends gets it* ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isuki Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 Well it wasn't too much of a suprise to me. If you remember, the original BDU design was created by the Marine Corps. All the other services seem to be in a rush to either copy it (US Army) or go their own route(Air Force). I just wished they didn't do such a half@$$ed job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 I was under the impression that the current BDU design was created by Carl Stiner back during earlier days of the Green berets, when they specified designs for a ripstop jacket with breast and bottom pockets and the Army adopted it as an overall garment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSaKi Posted June 26, 2004 Share Posted June 26, 2004 If you remember, the original BDU design was created by the Marine Corps. All the other services seem to be in a rush to either copy it (US Army) or go their own route(Air Force). ARRRGGGHHH!!! The original design is Canadian, DAMMIT!!!! Thats right, Canadian!!! We also invented the zipper, the telephone, and velcro!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 The neat thing about the US marines MARPAT is that it blends so well in jungle/woodland. But at the same time if it HAD to...it can hold its own in a desert environment. Plus the marines ALSO have a dedicated desert version of the marpat uniform. I knewwwwwwww the US army was going to get jealous and look to replace their aging uniforms. But while they have done a decent effort the decision to use only one color pattern for all environments is in my opinion ABSOLUTELY RETARDED!!!! I mean a guy could almost become invisible wearing marine marpat in the woods. But if I guy wore THAT thing in the woods he is goin to glow in the dark like a gamma irradiated neon sign! I mean as is the colors are fine for urban environments and desert environments but I am sorry I do not see how this even comes close to being a good jungle/woodland camo. The army spokesperson said it wasn't a 100% solution for all environments but its a good solution for all environments. Excuse me but if you want a 100 percent solution for all environments then make more than one version! And excuse me its not even a "good" solution for all environments. I mean its like people today can only see whats before them and can't really envision events that waiting for them just behind the corner. I say that because this uniform is really meant for desert combat. But I wonder what the army personnel stationed in South Korea are going to say when they realize that next year they are gonna have to wear that? Are the Army Rangers going to have to wear that too? Look, I know I'm not military but I just don't see how that is going to work effectively in the jungle. All future wars aren't all going to be in the desert. Right? Something to remember. The images we see online are NOT what the uniform really looks like. The actual uniform is a brownish color. Budgie posted a GREAT image of the ACTUAL camo. The press release photos make the uniform look like crap. So before you dismiss the camo, take a look at what it really looks like The actual camo looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted June 28, 2004 Author Share Posted June 28, 2004 Yeah that first press release was an urban prototype or just brightened up because of camera flash. If you look at some of the other links in this thread you'll see it is actually quite brown and would suit woodland or urban rubble well, but I think it might be too dark for the desert. That said, if the troops will keep wearing woodland flakjackets then the desert camo is rendered ineffective anyway, so what's the difference? I guess SpecOps will keep some other desert camo for deep cover etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro_Monty Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 The original design is Canadian, DAMMIT!!!! Thats right, Canadian!!! We also invented the zipper, the telephone, and velcro!!! Hehe, not to fuss over semantics... but while the telephone may have been invented in Canada, it was invented by a Scot. Just like street lighting, colour photographs, the television, tarmac, bicycles, raincoats, adhesive stamps, the thermometer, anaesthetics, antiseptics, the hypodermic needle, RADAR, the gas mask, the locomotive, the lawnmower, thermos flasks, golf, marmalade, the fountain pen, the refrigerator, the breech-loading rifle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARDelta Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Just like street lighting, colour photographs, the television, tarmac, bicycles, raincoats, adhesive stamps, the thermometer, anaesthetics, antiseptics, the hypodermic needle, RADAR, the gas mask, the locomotive, the lawnmower, thermos flasks, golf, marmalade, the fountain pen, the refrigerator, the breech-loading rifle... I didn't know about all of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyovan4 Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Just like street lighting, colour photographs, the television, tarmac, bicycles, raincoats, adhesive stamps, the thermometer, anaesthetics, antiseptics, the hypodermic needle, RADAR, the gas mask, the locomotive, the lawnmower, thermos flasks, golf, marmalade, the fountain pen, the refrigerator, the breech-loading rifle... Didn't know about all that.. Wasn't the breech loader created by a Scottish captain during the American Revolutionary War?? I seem to recall reading a bit about that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro_Monty Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Aye, I believe that's right. Anyway, back on topic... I can see where this is leading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicSnake Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Well, I like the Army's decision to get digi-camo, but I still dont see the color scheme working anywhere. It looks grey, and in case y'all havent noticed, woodland enviroments are green and brown, and the desert is mostly tan and brown. So I'm just not happy with the color scheme, the pattern and the uniform itself with all it's neato little improvements that the grunts have been bitching about for years is really cool. I hope the one I get to wear one someday actually matches the enviroment I'm in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted June 28, 2004 Share Posted June 28, 2004 Good point about the improvements - practically nobody here has reflected on the fact that this uniform is an extremely welcome change in a great deal of areas as far as functionality goes. And +1 for the comment that the color is not gray. Read up and look at the pictures earlier in the thread and You will see the green/brown pattern the way it really looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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