Guest [Ac][d]Cobblers Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Hi to all, From Dabs.com I will be buying a new GF4 Ti4600 128MB AGP RP VO DVI whatever those extra letters mean for £205 (including VAT). I know this card is 128MB but I currently have an ATI Redeon 7200 64MB card, will I notice much difference do you think in frames per sec and qulaity of pic? And how long do you think this card is likely to keep me going? The next year, or maybe two? Thanks for any help! Cobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I reckon about 12 to 18 months ... It all really depends how hard the developers want to push the envelope. Games like the new doom could up the ante somewhat, and raise the bar for hardware requirements that much quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [Ac][d]Cobblers Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 But I'm a bit ignorant regards hardware etc, but is this one of the better cards available at the moment? Or is there anything better for the same amount of money? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTOMac Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Take a Look at this Card and see what You think... http://www.atitech.ca/products/pc/radeon95...0pro/index.html Regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300Mag Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 (edited) Acid, You should see a signifcant difference with that upgrade. Not much difference in performance between all the cards using the Ti 4600 chipset and it's still, even with the Radeon 9700 out, a very fast chipset. All in all, number two on the speed list right now next to the 9700. It'll throw out some solid frame rates. Probably max out near 100 or so (or refresh rate). Edited January 16, 2003 by 300Mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [Ac][d]Cobblers Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 Thanks for your help there guys. I just had to make sure that this card isn't gonna be one of those that someone would have said "ooo, you should have got this one instead". I know that the Radeon 9700 is the tops at the mo, and the price reflects it, but as I couldn't see myself paying almost £300 for the ATI I thought I'd go with the Geforce instead. Can't wait to get it now. My GR days of medium spec graphics are gone!! Now doubt this will keep me stuck to my computer for a little while to come! Again thanks for all who helped. Cobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 The ti4600 is slower than both the 9500pro and the 9700pro, and according who you order from, the 9500pro should be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebite1967 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 the 9500 is equal to a 4200 on most benchmarks ive seen and thanx to the 9700 pro and the new fx coming out its a great time to but any of the gf4 ti cards their price is dropping bigtime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 snakebite: 9500 or 9500Pro? Everything I've seen shows the 9500Pro matching and exceeding the ti4600, especially when AA is used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebite1967 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 (edited) your right Rook every test id seen so far was without AA enabled did some digging and tho the 9500 pro scores less than the ti4600 ( at least a 1000 points on madonion) once AA is enabled its a totaly diferent story cant find a 9500 non pro test so far is the 9700 simply a downtuned 9700 ? too many new cards too confusing. heres a good link to a full test of multiple cards some interesting reading http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021...on_9500-08.html brif summary that led to my opinion tho it might be wrong or out of date At a selling price expected to be around $199 US, there is no doubt that the Radeon 9500 PRO is an attractive product, although it can't come close to delivering the performance of the Radeon 9700. Under normal circumstances it is slower than a GeForce 4 Ti 4600. However, it is an ideal card for anyone looking for good performance with anisotropic filtering and anti-aliasing. It certainly provides stiff competition for the NVIDIA GeForce 4 Ti 4200-8x, which is already well established in this price category (street price between $170 and $200). If you are looking for good performance at a reasonable price, the Radeon 9500 PRO should be your first choice. Be wary of the Radeon 9500 (without PRO). Although no samples of this card have been available for testing, we would expect the pixel pipeline restriction to adversely affect its performance. Look into this carefully if you are considering buying. The poor showing of the Radeon 9500 PRO in the 3D Mark 2001 SE single texturing fill rate benchmarks is curious. Some more research is needed to find out exactly what the problem is here. Edited January 16, 2003 by snakebite1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 I don't trust toms any farther than I could throw a stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebite1967 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 really ok well i read a lot of hardware sites i dont take them as gospel just a general guide if you know a totaly unbiased site then plz give me the url Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 If you realy want an unbiased opinion just drop me a line on AIM, I will be glad to explain how Intel is better and all my "unbiased" opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebite1967 Posted January 16, 2003 Share Posted January 16, 2003 lol ill take that argument stinger , but seriously so many new card types coming out its hard to get an unbiased opinion i guess ive cruised a few reviews now and im still not sure sharkies extreme says its a good value for money card but is equal to a ti 4400 even tho their test set up shows it beating the ti4600 in most tests i give up, for the price i think the 9500 pro will sell well and possibly help ATI take the middle ground market that at present is held by nvidia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 IMO, Intel and Nvidia are a bunch of monoplies paying their peons to give them better reviews. I usually just stick with hardocp (they at least have balls to stand up to people) and anandtech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa_N_Manila Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Right now I have the TI4400 and its a pretty solid card. Go ahead and buy the ti4600 since the price is reasonable...it'll last you through this year I'm sure. I'm currently saving to upgrade more and plan on buying either a 9700 or FX when it comes out. IMO the ti4600 is best for the buck...but take a look at the 9500 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 (edited) speaking of the 9700 does it have it's own fan ? because there is now software out there ( rather than soldering on the board, one mistake and screwed) to tweak a 9700 to a 9700pro but if the regular 9700 doesn't have a fan you would blow the card would ya not? Edited January 17, 2003 by =UAL=Havok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Seeing as every gfx card since the gf3 and Radeon 8500 have had fans, I'm positive it does. If it didn't, alls you would have to do is mount a standard pc fan over the gpu heatsink and plug it into your psu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Seeing as every gfx card since the gf3 and Radeon 8500 have had fans, I'm positive it does. If it didn't, alls you would have to do is mount a standard pc fan over the gpu heatsink and plug it into your psu. Nope, my GF4 MX440 SE had only heatsink, then I added more heatsinks, then I added fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Guess nvidia is getting cheap Even my old Radeon 32mb PCI had a fan on its heatsink for crying out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 (edited) Guess nvidia is getting cheap Even my old Radeon 32mb PCI had a fan on its heatsink for crying out loud. Below me RooK j/k hehe Well I added all it needs to be colder than heck. So pfft! Edited January 18, 2003 by Stinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa_N_Manila Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 My geForce 2 ultra had a fan way back when... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Assasian Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Go to IGN Gear too see some fair reviews. the Radeon 9500 Pro got to the top gear of 02. IGN said that when Doom 3 was shown at E3 ID soft used a 9700 Pro and 9500 Pro too run it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa_N_Manila Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 I didn't know that used a 9500pro, I thought they only used the 9700...Maybe the 9500 is more powerful than i thought... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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