FI_FlimFlam Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 OK, I have read in other threads that other peeps have stated that you need to have the Ageia drivers installed on a SADS box in order to have SADS run. Is there anyone that can confirm that fact????? Point being is that I went to the Ageia website to get the drivers and that it states that the drivers are for "XP/Vista RC1" only. Is this the culprit???? So downloaded the drivers and installed them.....they actually installed......however STILL NO GO Not true about installing the Ageia drivers. Our remote box had nothing installed on and it hosts GRAW just fine. However it's also a win2003 OS. Files were just moved over and the dedicated server just started fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Flim is correct, you dont need to install the game on the server. Just use the sads exe. Seems WK2 hosting is not possible at this time. Windows Server 2003 is a much better server OS IMOHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 For those with win2000 problems, some of us have been in contact with GRIN and we're trying to find the issue. No promises, but they have been made aware of it. Just nothing has been found to report at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 let me add to this fron what stealth has told me on TS. It stops at loading... in never finishes or says unable to detech athena devices. Not sure if that gives a clue or not. Stealth... does it generate a crashlog.txt (check your graw directory) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 This is a long shot...but...I would like to see what a working context-standalone.xml looks like. That file seems to be as far as it gets when loading. It might have something to do with "pathing" or reading the bundle. I've managed to isolate the .dll files that are needed to get to the "loading..." screen. beyond that, it can't find and/or read the file referance in the context-standalone.xml. I dunno......maybe thats crap also................. Slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Ive got one working I think. Please join it for a round or 2 to help me make sure i wasn't connecting to it locally. Win2000 Test Server [GR] Recon 2 man size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) It's there....but....Tow-Angel and another dude are "hoggin".....they won't let me play........I'm tellin my mom............ Slow ahhhh......i couldn't find a whinie emote Edited September 28, 2006 by Slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I got in...I played...it works ....what dose your w2000 have that mine dosn't? Slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) Clean server with only sp3 and sp4 installed with mobo and vid card drivers. I tested several things on it. 1)Typical move data. 2)Install from DVD (copy to another folder) and patch to full 1.30 3)Patch installed copy to beta 1.30 Hosting from in game gui "dedicated" Hosting from SADS in all 3 It's the installed and full 1.30 patch version that worked. it's 1 of 2 things that I can guess. 1) somewhere in a config file is an absolute path that directs to the install directory. I have checked all the Registry entries and changed the one that was not an uninstall. I changed it to the copied files location (c:\GRAW) which didn't work. So I don't think it's the registry. I will test this tomorrow with changing the copied files to the same directory structure from my gaming rig. 2)The Agia hardware drivers are only compatible with XP and something else is tweaked when the software drivers are loaded. I suspect this more than anything else since the server performs the physics calculations for the cleints (supposedly). I will report my findings to GRIN as soon as I finish the testing to the best of my ability. Edited September 28, 2006 by FI_FlimFlam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth-IRA Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Hip HIP HOOORAY!!!!!! I'm gonna uninstall the ageia drivers later,and wait for the super duper ® ©FlimFlam Instruntionset (patent pending)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 LOL I forgot to mention that you must also have the DirectX run time installed. You can just copy the directX folder from the CD to the server and run the DXSETUP.exe. I'm still trying to find out what in the actual install is different from the copied files. Pathing or actual 3rd party program like the ageia. Which isn't needed for XP. I just wish we had some kind of server log that could help me narrow it down. I'm still a ways off from really narrowing it down. But for those who would wish to or can, you can do an actual install with the game CD on the server. I know that means that some of you would have to ship your CD to your provider but that is as far as I have gotten if you want to get it up and running now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 LOL I forgot to mention that you must also have the DirectX run time installed. You can just copy the directX folder from the CD to the server and run the DXSETUP.exe. I'm still trying to find out what in the actual install is different from the copied files. Pathing or actual 3rd party program like the ageia. Which isn't needed for XP. I just wish we had some kind of server log that could help me narrow it down. I'm still a ways off from really narrowing it down. But for those who would wish to or can, you can do an actual install with the game CD on the server. I know that means that some of you would have to ship your CD to your provider but that is as far as I have gotten if you want to get it up and running now. Actually if the provider has the CD... just e-mail them your key and they can install it to the server for sads. Shouldn't be that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Stealth and Slow I need you guys to try something for me. In your GRAW/settings folder is a file called defaults.xml open it and edit the active server path to show the same config xml file that is in your servers_shared.xml. I think this is not updated or for some reason on Win2000 is taking priority over the servers_shared.xml setting. What I found is that my servers were not loading my config. There were loading the default game which was domination I believe. The line looks like this: <server active="/settings/servers/graw_server_YOURCONGIF.xml" /> make sure that is a valid xml file and also matches the one in your servers_shared.xml file. I haven't tested it for saving and changing the default xml config within the console. So be aware if you want to change your default configuration you may need to edit this line manually to get the server to continue to operate properly. Like I said I haven't tested it so just be aware of the possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 It dosn't get far enough to read that file. It won't boot to default or "my.xml". The folks where I rent the server don't install games. If you can't upload it ...then, sol. Slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth-IRA Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) All I ever see is Loading...... and then "poof" And never even get to the next line. Well OK..I can either pay our provider to install the game (which they will do) for a reasonable fee,or get an OS upgrade and have my uploaded SADS put on the new HDD. In my case this is even more feasable because our server only has a cdrom and my copy of GRAW is on DVD. Or somehow have someone figure out what is not allowing the game to "Load" Well , flimflam.....thanks for the effort. I see my attemp to have your f's bee in french script a la the ol GR days didnt work......LOL Edited September 28, 2006 by Stealth-IRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I'm not done yet! Do you have the directx runime installed? Do that for me if you will. EIther from Microsofts website or from the CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth-IRA Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I'm not done yet! Do you have the directx runime installed? Do that for me if you will. EIther from Microsofts website or from the CD. Yep DX9.0c aug update... BUT I CANT INSTALL THE GAME ON THIS SERVER DUE TO LACK OF ADEQUATE VID CARD TOO!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Sure you can... i do believe the install does not check it. Here is why i say this... i installed my server on a TI4600 ultra. Installed and served fine, even without the sads. Just can't go in game with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 (edited) Stealth - Any word on the co location service provider disabling the Nortons Corporate to test if it's script blocking the server? Edited September 30, 2006 by FI_FlimFlam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth-IRA Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 (edited) Stealth - Any word on the co location service provider disabling the Nortons Corporate to test if it's script blocking the server? Yes ,they actually uninstalled it completely off the server. Still no go. Saw Win 2003 server on newegg for $299 Dunno what to do at this point really,other than say thanks for your efforts FF Edited October 1, 2006 by Stealth-IRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 THe last thing I would try before dropping 3 bills on win03 Server would be to take a program like Alcohol120% and make a disk image, upload it to the server and try to intstall it. A120% is free to try so it'll cost you nothing to try it. Other than that I'm fresh out of ideas. We worked together on TS the other night and all my ideas didn't pan out. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Be happy to make you a sweet deal on a dedicated Win3 Server! )) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 It would be cheaper just to throw windows xp pro on the box and be done with it. XP Pro can handle it. Windows 2003 server is nice but if cost is a problem XP Pro will work and can handle the load + high amounts of memory and multi processor support. You can also load up IIS on it if you need an ftp. Just my 2 cents + change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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