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I am sorry for the late disagreement, I agree that at the application level they should not care, but your point is an INTEL paradigm.
Kasparov lost to Deep Blue (a cell tech) and IBM has given us 360 and PS3 via cell.
Billions of floating point operations through the PSE, no GPU no real CPU, and it is definetely not i386 or cics, but is risc in a form that we need to deal with.
So I agree and disagree, to a point
NOX
As I said application level, not infratructure not specific hardware. I speak as a software architect who really don't want to build a system specific to one hardware (e.g. INTEL x86). It does not scratching me a bit that they all do specific hardware until i can run my virtual machines on it and the underlying (GRID/Network/Multithread) level is transparent for me. I don't have an Intel paradigm because most of our customers and even we have no Intel running
. We have installations on HP-UX (Itanium2), Solaris (SPARC), Linux and Windows (x86). All with the same compiled code. All based on Java and J2EE. But this is the server side, the easy side I think!On client side you have to deal a lot with that hardware specific things like gfx cards, cpu's, ppu's, special IO devices. This is the hard side for developers. The only solution for developers who doesn't have the time and money are multi platform engines like Unreal Engine.
Well as I let in to this you have determined corporate attempts visa vie the Consolers ie MS and Sony to co-op the development people to code specifically to their platforms, by the by, both standardized on Cell in one formmat or the other-leaving the PC behind. As I have said in other posts I do not beleive that the Intel/PC paradigm nor an AMD/PC architecture is the way of the future. Once you go beyond the 1970's technology that all PC are based on leaves you in a void. I am specifically stating and uncategorically that CELL will win, no more GPU, NO more hard and fast CPU, but as many cell processors as you can afford to populate in your box. Distributed processing and If I was asked I would base it on as many floating point calculations as I could drive.
I here you about JAVA, but I have seen so many attempts to drive applications in the way of open standards, and only mentioned JAVA to make a way for player stats to be tracked via a web technology. JAVA is no way to create a game, but like I mentioned a way to track player stats.
Gaming will be standardized via platform dependence, just like intel/MS and everyon else, MAC ie ie o.
If it is not we lose, again a cellular multi processor device is the best way to go.
I want my refrigerator and A/C unit to talk to my cell phone and coffee maker, and all of those PPU's could be used online as a gaming device.
Peace out
NOX
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About the Hollywood picture of the M1 "want-to-be" and me not recognizing it. It aint a MBT my friend. It is a mockup, and does not look like an Abrams-if you knew what you where talking about you would see what I see immediately.
Show us where that picture of the Iranian tank was taken then. How do you know it is a mockup? If it isn't a main battle tank, then what is it?
If you look closely at the front spindle of the "mock-up" you will see even spacing between all seven spindles-yes it looks Christie, but gun stability would be impossible when moving. The Front Spindle has to travel in 3 directions, and the close spacement between 1 and 2 make that impossible, so you would have left right yaw in gun and up down in regards to right up left down transversal of bad terrain.
If you drive this tank into battle you are a target.
Again I do not post here to Bash the Devs, I just like it real. I have been to Mexico City and you would never want to bring an MBT into the environment VISA vie the Mexican Governments purchase on 6 wheeled Panhards. Remember most if not all of their combat effective troops are quartered within ten miles of their capital (Mexco City). You need wheeled vehicles and beleive me I would rather fight MBT positions with air cover than Wheeled Vehicle's with their mobility, and 20mm's.
But you do know the game is set in 2013 and not 2006 right? The tanks are not sold they are given to the Mexico gov as part of the agreement. Happens all the time in the arms / political trade.
Sorry BO,
My post is now not in regard to your efforts, but a post in which a picture of an Iranian MBT was posted-Zolfaqar-3 MBT. After looking at it now I know why they want to process Uranium, not so much for the fissible but for the depleted Uranium needed to make composite armor-LOL but it is still a target.
Keep up you efforts, and that your team for their time.
May the VIKIN Gods bless you
Regards
Johnson
BO
I want to say again thank the GRIN Family for all of your efforts, I look forward to the game, and again please do not teke my comments as criticism nor antagonistic, it is my fault that I do not take more time in typing enough to make myself clear. I got one arm working do to a bad drop and a sudden stop! 3rd degree shoulder and three rotator cuff tears-so in my left handedness I am quick and to the point, and I have ailed to make clear my sentiments.
You are correct to advise me on the story line and I appreciate that.
If I had a Koronet I may get a mobilty kill on an Abrams, but that is about it.
NOX
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About the Hollywood picture of the M1 "want-to-be" and me not recognizing it. It aint a MBT my friend. It is a mockup, and does not look like an Abrams-if you knew what you where talking about you would see what I see immediately.
Show us where that picture of the Iranian tank was taken then. How do you know it is a mockup? If it isn't a main battle tank, then what is it?
If you look closely at the front spindle of the "mock-up" you will see even spacing between all seven spindles-yes it looks Christie, but gun stability would be impossible when moving. The Front Spindle has to travel in 3 directions, and the close spacement between 1 and 2 make that impossible, so you would have left right yaw in gun and up down in regards to right up left down transversal of bad terrain.
If you drive this tank into battle you are a target.
Again I do not post here to Bash the Devs, I just like it real. I have been to Mexico City and you would never want to bring an MBT into the environment VISA vie the Mexican Governments purchase on 6 wheeled Panhards. Remember most if not all of their combat effective troops are quartered within ten miles of their capital (Mexco City). You need wheeled vehicles and beleive me I would rather fight MBT positions with air cover than Wheeled Vehicle's with their mobility, and 20mm's.
But you do know the game is set in 2013 and not 2006 right? The tanks are not sold they are given to the Mexico gov as part of the agreement. Happens all the time in the arms / political trade.
Sorry BO,
My post is now not in regard to your efforts, but a post in which a picture of an Iranian MBT was posted-Zolfaqar-3 MBT. After looking at it now I know why they want to process Uranium, not so much for the fissible but for the depleted Uranium needed to make composite armor-LOL but it is still a target.
Keep up you efforts, and that your team for their time.
May the VIKIN Gods bless you
Regards
Johnson
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About the Hollywood picture of the M1 "want-to-be" and me not recognizing it. It aint a MBT my friend. It is a mockup, and does not look like an Abrams-if you knew what you where talking about you would see what I see immediately.
Show us where that picture of the Iranian tank was taken then. How do you know it is a mockup? If it isn't a main battle tank, then what is it?
If you look closely at the front spindle of the "mock-up" you will see even spacing between all seven spindles-yes it looks Christie, but gun stability would be impossible when moving. The Front Spindle has to travel in 3 directions, and the close spacement between 1 and 2 make that impossible, so you would have left right yaw in gun and up down in regards to right up left down transversal of bad terrain.
If you drive this tank into battle you are a target.
Again I do not post here to Bash the Devs, I just like it real. I have been to Mexico City and you would never want to bring an MBT into the environment VISA vie the Mexican Governments purchase on 6 wheeled Panhards. Remember most if not all of their combat effective troops are quartered within ten miles of their capital (Mexco City). You need wheeled vehicles and beleive me I would rather fight MBT positions with air cover than Wheeled Vehicle's with their mobility, and 20mm's.
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About the Hollywood picture of the M1 "want-to-be" and me not recognizing it. It aint a MBT my friend. It is a mockup, and does not look like an Abrams-if you knew what you where talking about you would see what I see immediately.
Show us where that picture of the Iranian tank was taken then. How do you know it is a mockup? If it isn't a main battle tank, then what is it?
If you look closely at the front spindle of the "mock-up" you will see even spacing between all seven spindles-yes it looks Christie, but gun stability would be impossible when moving. The Front Spindle has to travel in 3 directions, and the close spacement between 1 and 2 make that impossible, so you would have left right yaw in gun and up down in regards to right up left down transversal of bad terrain.
If you drive this tank into battle you are a target.
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About the Hollywood picture of the M1 "want-to-be" and me not recognizing it. It aint a MBT my friend. It is a mockup, and does not look like an Abrams-if you knew what you where talking about you would see what I see immediately.
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NO! it is VIKIN you southern type of elderberry eater!
Oh if there is some sort of in game explanation that is fine for the game, but since this game was a West Point requirement ie GR1, and the reading of Redstorm Rising was mandatory at Annapolis-I hate to give that advantage to a game.
Realism is based on facts, oh let me say that again faxts is fakts, fackts by any other name is lies.
And fact: The Mex got the tanks in a proposed military union.
Btw.. I never go to Slussen... to much noobs there
Slussen is full of Dane's? they make great cookies-LOL
I do not know or believe there is an a contract by Cadillac Gage nor Chrysler or General Dynamics that sells Abrams Technology to The Mexican Government I may be wrong but..
I am very much anticipating this game, I want so much for me and my brothers to play again together as a team. In no way take any of my posts as antagonistic nor negative-just that we like it real.
NOX
Peace out
Tampa-Home of Central Command
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NO! it is VIKIN you southern type of elderberry eater!
Oh if there is some sort of in game explanation that is fine for the game, but since this game was a West Point requirement ie GR1, and the reading of Redstorm Rising was mandatory at Annapolis-I hate to give that advantage to a game.
Realism is based on facts, oh let me say that again faxts is fakts, fackts by any other name is lies.
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OMG BO!! not the story line! Hansel and Gredel, the three pigs, Hellen Keller-not the Alamo all over!!
Do not get me wrong I like the Panhards, as long as they sit still and are a quite peaceful target, after all if they are moving a TOW might kill someone. But Abrams!! I would rather have a knife fight in Slussen!
Peace out
NOX
LOL May the VIKIN Gods bless you
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Again another vehicle for the modders to play with, but for realisms sake-come on let the French vehicles pile up and blow the snaught out of them.
LOL
NOX
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Future software developers (application level) should not care about the underlying hardware infrastructure. This is abstacted, even the parallel and multiprocessing hardware you're talking about. This is currently done with the infrastructure most ERP systems and other enterprise systems rely on. This is of course new to the game industry.
I am sorry for the late disagreement, I agree that at the application level they should not care, but your point is an INTEL paradigm.
Kasparov lost to Deep Blue (a cell tech) and IBM has given us 360 and PS3 via cell.
Billions of floating point operations through the PSE, no GPU no real CPU, and it is definetely not i386 or cics, but is risc in a form that we need to deal with.
So I agree and disagree, to a point
NOX
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Cohesion of the clan through the new massively multiplayer maps can and only will be achieved not through matching but objectives within a gaming environment and not a game.
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Yes I agree that only objectives or game tasks can control large battles. There is no way to do it just by enemy kills and lot's of respawns. There must be a strategic layer above the first person action. Just like in real time strategy games where you control the units and groups. After that strategic selection was taken, like storm that hill or defend that village, you go in FPS action with your mates until you finished that ojective. Opposing teams must be selected by objective history so that in some cases the same teams play the next strategic round.
For all the players should be a RPG like point system for their skills supporting, med, transport, ... (not only by enemy kills!) where people get rewarded for their work in the team. Ant these points must be persistent over battles just like in current MMORPG's.
This will work with clans or mates often play together, but for the game industry the market of casual lone wolf players is also important. These -play for 4 weeks- players bring most of the money and they don't bother the publisher for the game features. This is what you currently see with the majority of GRAW 360 players. We did the game, let's go onto Oblivion
Building a combination of the very successful MMORPG's with strategic elements of current RTS games and 3D first person action on large battlefields could be a great success if you find some tasks/objectives for lone wolf players because 70% are single players playing in irregular intervals within a multiplayer environment.
I like you even more!
Again I will not disagree with you. Yes the LoneWolf on Mercenary needs to finds a place. And in a FPS MMORPG you will span time zones, People got jobs School, University or what ever, but they do have a "playing envelope" that they play in (dedicated time available). Therefore, as you know ERM-would that be SAP or Peoplesoft by the way?, the messenging subparticles are trully invisible to the game, but entirely, due to "playing envelope" made known to individuals that have been assigned to objectives. Clans, individuals, Mercenaries, even people with certain skill sets can or could be assigned to "objectives" based in "GRID" data.
Let's say you a lone wolf snipper and you work nights in London, you could be assigned to a Lone Wolf Commander in Brazil for a certain task. You then make friends that you would never have met. Or if you are three guys from Clan A and Clan B need you you all play again more friends. I state these point not for you but the others who are trying to understand what we are talking about.
I worked in a Globus network in the mid 90's and I know that you can track gaming skills and points with JAVA, therefore if you can take an objective and not kill your people in the process you will gain points and rank. Or if you a successful team member just being a sneaky ###### you will gain points. But this could also work against you in that you would be in high demand for suicide missions-LOL
Peace Out
NOX
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If we talk about the software for that effort and not the hardware we talk about an abstration of the hardware layer. Future software developers (application level) should not care about the underlying hardware infrastructure. This is abstacted, even the parallel and multiprocessing hardware you're talking about. This is currently done with the infrastructure most ERP systems and other enterprise systems rely on. This is of course new to the game industry. But it's done already with some of the most popular MMORPG's. Ok at a lower level but it works. You can connect virtual worlds and the computing and storage resources striped over a network of servers.
I see the problem not with the software or hardware, I see the problem managing a virtual battlefield with players joining/leaving even in midair or in the middle of a mission. What about the tasks the should achieve? This is even a great problem with MMORPG's but they have the RPG aspect and their points in mind.
The idea of that virtual battlefield with consumer games is not new, there was Spectrum Holobyte in the 90's who tried to make it combining their simulation games but it never happend. Only some games like OFP/VBS or JO allow a larger battlefield. OFP limited in player count and JO with 150 players it's only chaos and respawn hell. BF2 is to much arcade to talk about.
The biggest problem is the management and the coordination of what is going on there not the software or the hardware.
I like you!!
Spectrum and Gilman Louie did try ( he looked into the future when a 9600baud connection-nose to nose guns only on the first pass) and now we have boradband. I am a huge Falcon 4 fan going back to the original Falcon yes before AT. I built my first PC in 85 just to play.
I came from the flight SIM camp over to shooters, because I liked "Instant Gratification", but I soon realized after Clanning that the friendships-and competition won me over-I left the chase for most kills to one of support and then and only then found my true place in the online environment (with my friends).
You are correct in everything that you said, I agree that individuals joining a game is not very much fun, JO, BF2, AA-no cohesion to a principle-but if we look at true battlefields at SEA, LAND or AIR we realize that the time involved is immense-I do not want to loose the MAP MODDER people hear me out.
When the MAP is the dominant focus of the game, could be thousands of miles in size-the question is "how long in real life does it take to fight" WWII years as an example. The map may be created but objectives change. We as MP players play fifteen minute battles, very fixed, but what if a clan could be scheduled to fight a specific position assigned by an "advised" modder a map maker.
Within a GRID network you may have multiple regional servers i.e Europe, ASIA and NA, any subsection of the map visa vie could be a controlled area and therefore be taken offline, since it is secured and modded, yes it may be a quick mod ie trenches on a hill to protect a valley-but this is really what you want.
I donot play and never play a DnD type of game, but I would play a Empire Earth on Age of Empires type of game-this is the AI of this future type of game-WE here in the US call it Hearts and Minds, many call it logistics.
Cohesion of the clan through the new massively multiplayer maps can and only will be achieved not through matching but objectives within a gaming environment and not a game.
The Clan is and was your friends-that is why I have complained so much-was it the game GR1 or was it playing with your friends? I say friends
and then-an almost perfect game in GR v2001
Gaming in FPS will change in the next 4 years-I gaurantee that. Do we allow another RSE debacle in Allowing UBI to purchase GRIN as they did RSE, or do we stand up and say it is the communithy, and not the game!! and we want what we want.
That is why I mentioned the number of hits in the above post.
My personnality is not condusive to posting it actually takes me a couple of beers-7 or 8 to post.
To GRIN I know that you are unable to responde and Again I am happy that you got that big paycheck coming, but after this is over you need to make money-SO BO when the time is right tell us how we can help GRIN (I would actually buy some crappy releases to keep you funded-LOL, but GD serious)
NOX
Peace Out
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In the last 15 minutes your game and the announcement have recieved over 6200 hits in thelast 15 minutes. 1020est Tampa home of Centcom time
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I hope that you have read some of my recent posts-all of which I have meant to have been supportive of your and the GRIN family's efforts. I have sent E-mails directly to the GRIN's web manager and hope that they have been shared. I hope that your new GR is better than what we ever have had before.
I played ballistics’ in a kiosk environment in Atlanta, NY and DC-great stuff and a whole lot of fun for the teams of technologists that I traveled with.
A proffer about myself I build transactional networks for both the financial and medical industries. I worked with Dave Levine of Butterfly. Net, during my days in the mid 90's, I was employed at the time by one of the worlds largest law firms. Butterfly.net had as employed ex-Pentagon resources that created a messaging technology that reflected GLOBUS (chakra). With IBM's assistance they cross-sold it to SONY for the PS2 net, with very mixed results. Sony has perfected it I have been told.
IBM and Sony have hand in hand rolled out CELL, and IBM has announced that CELL and LINUX will have a future in a blade server environment in the future. Crossing servers and environments on one shard is the Holy Grail.
If CELL meets its expectations alas with the realization that the PC technology that we have now dates back 30 years and needs to the radically updated, what do you need from us. I really believe that the open GL game that you have created has indeed put GRIN on the proverbial map, and now that you are guaranteed a pay check ( I am happy for that also)., again what can we do for you and GRIN.
IN 97 IBM rolled out it's copper chip with it's 2200 internal IO ports-we are going to recieve a dumbed down version in the SONY/IBM/Toshiba Technology, but if they deliver on the "Said" ability to cross process in the future the whole game changes-unlike AIDA in the 80's we are now at the advent with Broadband to make it happen!
If I am correct-and I know that I am about grid computing. How can we support GRIN.
For all those who read this and do not understand your future gaming experience to be as such: You assault a commercial district-some of your team enter a skyscraper and go into a CQB environment (when they opened the door to the building they are moved to a different "shard" on a multi blade server-you will not even percieve it.) The members that take the perimeter can be supported by Flight Sim guys, who are themselves on a different shard. Same game same physical server, but a different processor and if we get the latencey down there is no end.
PEACE OUT
NOX
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You are right the PS3 Cell uses its SPE's. Oh and there is the USB Mouse and Keyboard for the PS3. Let me recalculate $300.00 for a PC ppu, or $500.00 +$65.00 for PS3 with mouse and keyboard to play games with Ageia-I will stick with my GPU for GRAW/PC and and buy the PS3.
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Ageia buys Novadex
http://www.gamegossip.com/pressrelease.php?id=12343
Aug 2005 Sony/PS3 announces Ageia integration
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6132402.html
Sept 2005 Ageia questions 360 integration, but withdraws comment with caviat.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...09/ai_n15352915
All GRAW is postponed Sept-Oct 2005 Until FEB 2006
March 2006 Microsoft delays Vista Direct-x vs .net
March 21 06
New AGEIA SDK is not Direct-X, but .net
http://www.xboxusersgroup.com/content/view/2552/139/
http://support.ageia.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=1949
March 22 06 New Ageia SDK includes Collada for OpenGL ES
http://www.khronos.org/collada/
March 22 UBI and Ageia officially announce deal
March 22 we get some pc footage.
Now we have a game Developer GRIN -"May the Vikin God's bless them" basically bulding two games in one.
March 23 I get flamed and called a noob for making the comment "who cares about Hollywood graphics and yes co-op, I appologize for the co-op, and missions" Comment I am frustrated with the delays an I hope that you all see why, but hey it was my birthday and I had a few beers with a pain killer or two-I am allowed I got a seperated shoulder-LOL!
So why are we waiting? $300.00 for a Ageia PPU or I buy a PS3 for $500.00 to enjoy PC/GRAW port to PS3 so I can enjoy Ageia, I guess I will be playing GRAW/PC without all the graphics ****! and yes we will get live footage the day after GRAW/PC is ported over to the PS3!
PEACE OUT
NOX
P.S. I love you modders, and there is more to my maddness but the shoulder is not quite right yet and typing aint so good, but if debate comes I will responde peacefully and in kind.
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Thing is though I think ATI just announced that they are throwing in their support for HavokFX as well.
Time will tell if either Aegia or Havok will win the physics fight.
Hey, so like, what aegia cards are available as of now?
PS3 will use Ageia
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Stalker,
I got my first copy of GR1 Christmas of 2001, with my first dual CPU system and a 19 inch monitor-2001 was a great Christmas-the game was release November of 2001. My best friend bought it on or about our US Thanksgiving.
So It has been 4 plus years and a couple of months.
I am sorry that I offended you or anyone else for that matter that read this my responce to this post. I did not realize that you modded. I liked IGOR myself.
I do not let Cheaters get me down I just like killing them-so I am an MP type of shooter.
I have purchased 5 additional copies of GR1, over the years, and have given them away as gifts. I hope that the newest version will raise the same passion that I had for GR1-for 3 years it was the only game that I played.
Demo SA-80
Peace Out
NOX
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Give us a good ballistic model, great maps, decent visuals, no ranked servers, great server software-keep the hollywood and lets play. Co-op who cares, missions are available on the cosoles so go buy one. We have waited for 4 years for a new generation replacement-get er done.
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The more I look at it the more I depreciate the technology, yes depreciate maybe a new word, but this graphics crap has got to stop, a nade will not do that in real life to a 2 ton truck, come on BO!!
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Nade hits, you get shrapnel, you fall, gas tank explodes, you get covered in the fume barrier and combust-lets not get hollywood here! Bodies do not fly they fall and burn.
Peace out
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Just clean your gear after the Hydraulics burp and everthing is good to go.
NOX
NO yo-yo please!