ghost gamer 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 I am going to build a pc around a 2.4 gig pentium 4 with an 800 fsb and hyper threading....I plan on using either a gforce fx5600 or fx5900 card,sound blaster audigy 2 and a gig of Corsair RAM.....I have been looking at the Asus boards...but is this the best brand for gamers?... if so, which model of Asus board is best?..... ...thanks.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snakebite1967 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 (edited) personaly i trust Asus MSI or Gigabyte mobos, but im sure youl get a few diferent anwsers from the regulars . but a bud of mine swears by his Asus P4C800 Deluxe Edited July 21, 2003 by snakebite1967 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Author Share Posted July 21, 2003 cool...thats actually the board I have been looking at....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supasniper 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 i've used ASUS mobos in both my puters and i've had no probs at all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Specter 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Asus, and MSI both make an excellent board. You cant go wrong with either one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 (edited) Hi ghost gamer. I am in almost the exact same scenario. I plan on oc'ing I don't know about you though (it's a crime since almost all 2.4C's can hit 3.0 on stock air cooling). Asus and Abit are the best mfrs for the 800MHz bus currently (according to reviews).The Asus P4P800 and P4C800 are both great boards. They both offer a good amount of overclocking features and perform the best under stock speeds. The Abit IC7-7 (Canterwood chipset) and IS7-G (Springdale chipset) are by far the most popular boards for the 800Mhz bus p4's. The IS7-G is proclaimed the best but not very many people have it and so support for it is lacking. The IC7-G overclocks the best out of everyboard I have seen. The MSI neo? boards have had troubles of some kind I can't remember what but they have some quirk that made them undesireable. Normally I am a big fan of MSI though. The IC7-G is $188 IIRC and has the gigabit ethernet lan and the IC7-E is the same but with just a regular 100mbit lan and is a lot cheaper. Oh about the ram, if u r gonna oc or even if not Kingston HyperX has been doing quite well and u can get it for $99 a pop for 512MB PC3500 CAS2 at best buy after a $!7 rebate. I have some and it's great. Some people have had issues with the Abit boards IIRC and not getting it to work properly. Edited July 21, 2003 by Stinger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supasniper 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 this is kinda off topic but... i read that AMD have downgraded a recent batch of high power T'bred's just to meet demand for slower T'bred CPUs also they can be brought to a much higher speed only using software Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 The tbred 1700+ is all anybody needs it oc's like the celly 300. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 ...thanks to everyone for the feedback....sometimes the sheer number of choices is overwhelming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Do u plan to OC ghost gamer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 Stinger..please clarify..."oc"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Sorry OC is Overclock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 ....no, at least not on this pc....this is the first one I have built and don't want to add any more complexity to the situation.....I know this cpu can run alot faster than 2.4....perhaps down the road on another pc...hey Stinger....when I install the motherboard in the case is there anything special like washers or mounts I have to do in terms of grounding?..also, when I install the processor on the board I know there is thermal paste or something I have to use to help protect the processor....can you give me any feedback on this?...I would hate to get all the basics right then miss something easy and fry the board and/or processor " ...thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 (edited) ....no, at least not on this pc....this is the first one I have built and don't want to add any more complexity to the situation.....I know this cpu can run alot faster than 2.4....perhaps down the road on another pc...hey Stinger....when I install the motherboard in the case is there anything special like washers or mounts I have to do in terms of grounding?..also, when I install the processor on the board I know there is thermal paste or something I have to use to help protect the processor....can you give me any feedback on this?...I would hate to get all the basics right then miss something easy and fry the board and/or processor ...thanks Just make sure all the screw's are in place right on the mobo tray and that does the grounding Im pretty sure (what I've always done so it must be). Artic Silver 3 or its more costly brother Ceramique are the best thermal pastes. You are gonna need to spread it thinly but still cover the whole heat plate (silver thing) on top of the cpu with it. You may wanna look on google for some pics on how much because it is kinda hard to explain. You will need to spread it with something like a razor blade and don't worry about scratching that silver thing that is just covering up the cpu and is nothing but protective metal. This may or may not help u some depending on your current knowledg=>WK's guide to building a pc Lastly, that cpu has a lot I mean a lot of oc potential but if you aren't ready yet then don't try because it is pretty risky. When u r ready u should be able to hit 3.0GHz with ease. I am getting one for my next rig and it's gonna be oc'd heavily. Oh one other thing, if u dont plan to overclock soon really and dont mind spending some extra $ later on then PC3200 is all u need and the max that your board will allow u. But Kingston's HyperX PC3500 is $100 per 512MB stick and it OC's very well and is cheap. Oh and another thing have u decided on a board yet? And for the vid card if you plan on going higher end, an Ati card may be a better choice. Edited July 23, 2003 by Stinger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 (edited) I am gonna go with the ASUS P4C800 Deluxe...as far as a video card...Not sure ....I have had two Nvidia cards and they have both served me well...just read a very in depth and technical article on a comparison between the Geforce FX 5900 ULtra and the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro...(PC Magazine, article dated 5/12/03)....the conclusion was neither one was clearly "better" than the other...is it correct that texture memory does not directly equate to speed and that piplelines have more of an impact on speed?...that being said...are the 256 mb cards really faster than their older 128 mb counterparts or are there newer 128 mb cards out there that run as fast or faster than their 256 mb cousins?....if the newest 128 mb cards run almost as fast as the latest 256 mb cards, I see no reason to drop $500 when $200-$250 will do the trick...thanks again Edited July 23, 2003 by ghost gamer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 (edited) The P4C800 is a great board you will like it. Pipelines have a huge if not the biggest impact on overall speed. The added texture memory from what I hear is a nice bonus but isn't worth the extra $ when most games can run 2 times at once on a single 9800 Pro 128. The 256 would be nice but not required and really just icing on the cake. I personally am settling on a 9700 Pro and that will hold me for all the current games until I upgrade to a PCI-X cfx card when AGP is phased out Q1 of '04. Edited July 23, 2003 by Stinger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Author Share Posted July 23, 2003 I more than likely will stick with a Nvidia product....I am trying to buy "new" technology that will age well, but not buy the newest stuff which as we all know will drop in price over the next few months or so..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Well buy nVidia, I like their cards but don't touch the FX5900 PLEASSSEEEE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 more than likely I won't get the 5900 anyway.....but I wanted to look at it for comparison sake...now if they would cut the price of it in half " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 more than likely I won't get the 5900 anyway.....but I wanted to look at it for comparison sake...now if they would cut the price of it in half That would make my day How much longer until u r actually thinking about purchasing all the parts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 24, 2003 Author Share Posted July 24, 2003 ...gonna start on it in the next few weeks or so...order the case/power supply(antec) first, then the motherboard/processor...looks like for the board and processor I am gonna have to drop about $350 give or take a few bucks....bundled packages are about the same as being the parts alone....this is my first stage and we'll see how it goes...I may be able to get almost everything else(except video card) at Staples for decent prices......not fond of the idea of spending alot of the money on stuff from companies via internet...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 ASUS. Ive got an ASUS A7N8X, (like WK77, and yes it's for AMD) and I dont think Ill ever go with another companies board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghost gamer 0 Posted July 25, 2003 Author Share Posted July 25, 2003 Crimson.....appreciate the input ....from everything I am reading...ASUS boards seem to be the best board out there....my cuurent rig has a 1 gig anthlon...with a via motherboard...wonder if I shouldn't plug an ASUS board in it to.. " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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