cajun47 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 its very bloody. i shot the gator with my ruger .45 i have gator tags from the state of louisiana. its legal. if you are an animal lover and or do not like to see dead animals please go away....now. http://www1.charper.net/~tyler/files/07010...03/scan0032.jpg it took forever to get this beast in the boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WytchDokta Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 That is sick man. How can you do that? What did that aligator ever do to you? You should post pics like that on GR.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantar45 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Geez it looks like you shot it while it was in the boat. Of course if you did there would probally be a hole in the boat and gators coming to get you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Ouch, not pleasant viewing. I appreciate all the warnings in your post, but please spare us anymore photo's from your "hobby". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Crocodile Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 NO COMENTS, Mr. big hero hunter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 NO COMENTS, Mr. big hero hunter...... LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 One question How did you get that thing in the boat good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnumkp Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Why do you kill the gators? Are they a big risk to local people? Also what do you do with it when you get home. Take out the teeth and make those stupid necklaces, or get a very skilled taxidermist to stuff it and mount it on a huge reinforced wall? Don't take this as a comment on the morality, I'm just interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWilliams11 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 ehh... not very cool. The fact that there is 3 mother ######ing gators in there is ######ed up... one would be different, but 3? ######? damn ragin cajuns... I guess there are more where they came from, but still, whats the point? to shoot somthing? why dont you shoot y.... nevermind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 It's obvious that a large majority of those of you who have posted in this thread don't live in close proximity to alligators or crocodiles. Or, if you do, you're ignorant - very ignorant. Both alligators and crocodiles are extremely dangerous animals, and cannot cohabitate with human beings. Florida has very similar laws concerning the killing of alligators, to those of Louisiana. You must be licensed by the state to kill alligators, and you're only allowed to do so within certain times, and only in certain quantities. Oh, and, next time one of you is grossed out by what he did to the gator, go and find a picture of what gators do to humans. I assure you that seeing a human being who's been in the gullet of a gator for three days is much, much nastier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I'm with Para. Crocs weren't an issue where I lived in FL but they were with some of my friends. And some of em have been hunting them since they were kids (yes, more than likely illegally). It's also obvious that no one here has gone hunting. Not that I have, but it's the same idea; different species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWilliams11 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 (edited) I can see how killing a pest gator might be called for... but if your actively searching them out on uninhabited waterways, busting caps in their barely noticable heads, thats different. Those gators probably never came into contact with humans until cajun showed up and shot them. They eat frogs and fish man, not people. Alligator attacks in the US are almost non-exsistant... almost as rare as shark attacks. So to call them extremly dangerous animals, when you have 3 dead, piled up in your boat, is what is ingnorant imo. crocs are different... but they aint in the US. btw para~ no offense.. you da man. Edited July 7, 2003 by DWilliams11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 (edited) I can see how killing a pest gator might be called for... but if your actively searching them out on uninhabited waterways, busting caps in their barely noticable heads, thats different. Those gators probably never came into contact with humans until cajun showed up and shot them. They eat frogs and fish man, not people. Alligator attacks in the US are almost non-exsistant... more rare than shark attacks. So to call them extremly dangerous animals, when you have 3 dead, piled up in your boat, is what is ingnorant imo. crocs are different... but they aint in the US. btw para~ no offense.. you da man. All gators are pests. And I don't mean that sarcastically. There's no warning of a gator attack, and, often, there isn't even a sign that they're in the area. Generally, when licensed hunters 'hunt' alligators, they do so in areas that are on the brink of civilization. The purpose of doing this is to keep these alligators from spilling into populated areas. It should be noted that, in Florida at least, it used to be completely illegal to hunt alligators - there were no state-issued permits. But when alligator attacks became more frequent, something had to be done. Also, it's easy to say "Why don't you just trap them and move them?" But it's very, very difficult and extremely dangerous, especially when you're dealing with very large reptiles, such as the ones in the contested photograph. EDIT - Also, you're mistaken about the crococile issue. We have them in Florida. They're not as vicious as the infamous Salt Water Crocodile, but they're still mean. And, the reason permits are now issued to hunt alligators is due to alligator over-population. It's not like having too many fish, or too many birds - you can't just shoo off a 1100 pound reptile. Again, if you don't live in an area where there is a large alligator population, I don't expect that you'd totally grasp what I'm saying. Edited July 7, 2003 by Parabellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWilliams11 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 (edited) Oh I grasp it. To me, it's just relative to where they are doing their hunting (the people I mean). If it's on the brink of our areas, enforcement is necessary. But the only people who go on the back rivers in Louisiana are people who are looking to kill or see gators. There is no real estate out there. No golf courses and no neighborhood lakes for them to get in. No little kids walking along the river side. Just nature. I think Florida has more of those types of areas and it is therefore warranted more so there.. I’m not saying that there should be no killing of gators, just that I think they are badass animals and maybe if people who live near them would take the time to learn about their habits and behavior, there would be much less of a problem. Edited July 7, 2003 by DWilliams11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Recon Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I personally love animals and Im against killing them for fun or the sport. But it's your hobby and I have nothing against that. So good shooting and keep doing what you like to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 I personally love animals and Im against killing them for fun or the sport. But it's your hobby and I have nothing against that. So good shooting and keep doing what you like to do. I think that some folks here are still missing the point. Alligators are not killed solely for fun or sport - it's illegal. They're killed in strictly controlled numbers and locales, to prevent overpopulation of alligators, and lessen their danger to human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 There is a very good reason to go out in the less populated areas and hunt gators: surplus. If you let the populations get out of hand, even in out of the way areas, they spread to the ones that are more inhabited in search of food. Anyway, this is why they have a bag limits on all types of game; to make sure you don't kill out the species. Every year before a season starts, Fish and Wildlife employees monitor population and make decisions on bag limits or even to hold a season altogether, based on the population. If there is an over abundance of them, a larger bag limit is issued. Haven't you people ever taken a conservation class? If they weren't hunted they would keep spreading till they ran out of habitat or food and killed themselves off that way. Same thing goes for any hunted animal. I'm an animal lover too, but that doesn't mean I don't hunt. Besides, you can not only use or sell a gator's skin, but you can eat their meat if you want to. Also, anyone fretting over that much blood needs to get out more. I've seen worse come from hamburger meat at the local supermarket... you do know those are cows right? I'm beginning to think society is getting too impersonal with things that happen naturally and get offended by every little thing. If people in urban areas had to butcher their own cow for meat, I bet most would turn vegetarian. As for what Para was saying about was crocs do to people, here's somthing I got in an email refering to a missing golfer: *WARNING GRAPHIC* http://10mm.virtualave.net/crocmeal.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWilliams11 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 (edited) eww.. lol.. poor ######.... thats a big fuggin croc!!! "damn.. i think it went in the water.. lemme go take a look..." Edited July 7, 2003 by DWilliams11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yodasplat Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Ouch, not pleasant viewing. I appreciate all the warnings in your post, but please spare us anymore photo's from your "hobby". We appreciate that you are posting warnings before the links to the images but it would be nice if you guys could let up on the graphic pictures for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Some very interesting points. I know in the Biltmore forest several miles from here they allow deer hunting to lower the population. Even though it is privatley owned they still allow public use. Every deer killed must be taken to a game warden so they can count the number killed etc etc. I've never seen anything wrong with hunting. We've been doing it since the beginning of human evolution. From the time we started evolving from monkies to humans, it's our nature. Where and what Cajun hunts is up to him. I don't think we have any right to start a debate over it (unless he was hunting an endangered species or something). And Rook is right, the blood in that picture isn't that bad. We had an image of someone's shot leg posted here once that was A LOT more gorey than that. Even the one that Rook posted is pretty bad, but it can ALWAYS be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWilliams11 Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Yeah.. I remember that gunshot.. 5.56 to the shin if I remember correctly... messy! fun topic this was.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyro_Monty Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Oh, and, next time one of you is grossed out by what he did to the gator, go and find a picture of what gators do to humans. I assure you that seeing a human being who's been in the gullet of a gator for three days is much, much nastier. I don't think anyone is "grossed out" by what he does. I'm just disgusted that someone would come on here and expect kudos for it by showing images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Well, we do play a game where we "hunt" people. How's a gator any different I suppose. *Not my opinion, just food for though* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 What's wrong with that? Some people don't think it's a big deal, and you can tell the difference by the comments they made about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 7, 2003 Share Posted July 7, 2003 Pyro - did you see that australian nutter on telly last night, the croc guy? He was swimming with the things, in the wild, that guy is plain crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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