Windows 10 update- older games

[Papa6]

Windows 10 (10586.164) currently does pretty well with older games now. I'm thinking MS has done some tweaking to allow older games work. I can confirm quite emphatically that GR WILL play on Windows 10 safely if you buy it through Steam. I've had nary  an issue with Steams GR with DS and IT. I just installed Joint OPS Combined Arms Gold  and even installed Splinter-cell Pandora tomorrow although many have stated in the past builds (before 2016) now plays with little issue.

[4ceReconSniper]

This made me think of playing the rainbow six series again.

Have you tried the first SC?

Thank you for the heads up Papa6.

[Cobblers]

Nice heads up - last year I purchased all of the OGR series again via STEAM.  I may give the old campaign and run for its money once again.

Previous attempts running them on Windows 10 just failed.

 

[Papa6]

This made me think of playing the rainbow six series again.

Have you tried the first SC?

Thank you for the heads up Papa6.

Yes, it works too. looks awful in terms of graphics as does pandora tomorrow. I have the european version of Splintercell series in one box first through conviction. I knew it was European by the Pegi 18 rating on the box. Steam seems to play very nice with 10 if there becomes any problem.

[Papa6]

come to think of it, when I installed the DVD conviction, Steam allowed me to install it through them even though I never bought it from steam. The only downside is, you need to install uplay and it starts uplay when you start conviction. I really, REALLY like conviction.

[Papa6]

This made me think of playing the rainbow six series again.

Have you tried the first SC?

Thank you for the heads up Papa6.

Yes and it works albeit with horrible graphics due to its time. I found that say with OGR, it works with Steam without any issues. but my CD's don't work. But I tried to go back to Windows 7 Home Premium but it just wouldn't play on Windows 7 at all. at least for me. But everything is being geared for Windows 10 to force people to upgrade.

As of yesterday, there was an article whereby MS was asking people what they thought of a NEW start button/menu that  in all honesty will bring us back to the Windows 8 start screen. Before                                                                                                                  After( new idea) 

to me, they're trying to go back to Windows 8/8.1 by trying to make the start screen via the start button palatable in some way. Windows 10 was looking awesome but if they do this, a lot of people will be upset as they were with 8/8.1 .

Neowin discussion is HERE on this possible feature

Edited April 2, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

**UPDATE 4/5/2016. I just installed off the fast ring 14295.1000 which, will be the Redstone AKA, the Anniversary update slated for release for this summer. It's a little too early to tell since I haven't been able to run it through its paces. However, it was a major build release to test given the fact that, the update basically installed exactly like the Windows 10 build I installed from the USB I have. The start button is still the same as the original so MS hasn't yet made a decision on the new design. They are still taking in the info from the test community however!, word has it, even though it is large as in the screenshot above but its supposed to be adjustable to the users liking. that's not bad. It would seem that I can keep mine as it is now. 

feature update: The login screen used to be started by a lockout screen (Win key+ L) and when clicked on, the lockout picture would rollup and the windows 10 logo would be the screen picture. now, the lockout screen photo stays as the login screen after you click the lockout picture, it scrolls up or rolls up after clicking on it as before.. nice little feature, simple but keeps continuity.

UPDATE further**** 4/5/2016 I just got word from a user on Neowin.net that, build 14312 could release tomorrow... So I'll take up that build and install it and post any initial thoughts and new features and look into this start menu design matter more.

***** Nothing further for today***** 

Edited April 6, 2016 by Papa6
clarity and feature found

[Papa6]

I found this article via Neowin that I didn't see earlier since I had a loved one in the hospital undergoing a melanoma surgery.

But here are some screens of the old versus the new start menu proposals

Improving the All apps list in Start

via-

Microsoft clarifies potential changes to the Start Menu in the Windows 10 Anniversary Update (Neowin.net)

 

[Papa6]

Update: 4/6/2016

I'm currently downloading the build 14316 off the fast ring, reason being, I was so late in updating to the 14295 build. I'll be busy taking the wife to some appointments but I will endeavor to run the build through its paces and report on any improvements, changes and the like pertaining to gaming but over all as well. Just in case some are more curious about the overall look, feel or features to be updated for summers Redstone/anniversary update this summer. Yes, Windows 10 from the earliest build 9926 to now is a year old. So a summer major update release would seem like a good thing.

I'll get back to you later with my thoughts and usage of 14316..

updates for apps and programs still come down the pipe normally but the builds are put out on a certain time frame as MS prepares for summers Anniversary update (Redstone) the next major build update is rumored for 2017. but your apps and other updates contunie on a normal level.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Papa6
further clarification.

[Papa6]

Ok someone at Neowin.net has mentioned that here are some features in this test build;

bash
Cortana cross-device support
New edge extensions
Skype UPA preview app
Action Center updates
New system wide dark theme
New PC access experience to use continuum wirelessly
Virtual desktop updates
New update progress experience 
Updated battery settings, battery saver settings
Updated Windows Update settings

So we will finally see the extension support for edge like you have for chrome. The continuum I recall is the term used for the gaming across the platforms. Xboxone gaming from your console to Pc, to tablet to smartphone. all your games are supposed to work based upon what you have for the Xboxone. 

Bash was recently spoken about at the recent developers conference and bash is a feature that will integrate more openness to the Linux environment. I'm a little hazy on the actual details but MS seems to be moving to more friendly features with open source Linux.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

Ok, after I got home, I took a look around at 14316. They now have the extensions, (can't say they had them in 14295), only had it for a number of hours before 14316 came down the pipe.

The extension feature is definitely there in the works.

So this is how I'm seeing it: 

Edge is the replacement for the now long dead internet explorer. The extensions are now a feature in the test build and fully functional.

The gaming side, seems like more integration of the cross platform experience with Xboxone, PC, Tablet, Smartphone for gaming.

the start menu proposed ism't implemented thus far (though, this could change). A lot of bickering both ways from the pro side and con side on the start menu proposal. like two old men sitting in front of the barber shop arguing.

I'll find out what else was new in this test build and try it out and report on it. ok, found a list of new features and locations

Drag and drop folders: Users can now upload folders to sites like OneDrive, Dropbox, and Google Drive by dragging and dropping into Microsoft Edge.
Better tab behavior on Mobile: Microsoft Edge keeps your tabs under control when you use it with apps on your phone. If you tap on a link in an app that opens a new tab in Microsoft Edge, pressing the back button when you’re done will close that tab, then take you back to the app. Your tabs list stays lean and relevant, by smartly closing tabs you’re done with.
Better copy/paste on Mobile: We've made a couple of improvements to copy and paste on the phone. When you are typing into an edit box on a web page, you will now be able to use the paste button above the keyboard. Also, if you select text on a web page the copy button will appear immediately near the selection.
Better favorites importing: You can now import favorites from Firefox, in addition to Chrome and Internet Explorer. When you import favorites from any browser, they will now land in a separate clearly labeled folder, instead of mixed in with your existing favorites.
Favorites tree view: Organizing your favorites is now easier using the new "tree" display in the Hub. You can expand and collapse folders to see the contents of as many or few as you like, and easily move favorites between folders with drag and drop.
Download reminders: Edge now gives you a reminder of in-progress downloads whenever you close Edge. This gives you the opportunity to complete downloads prior to closing Edge.
Default save location: You can now set where downloaded files are saved by default. Just open “Settings”, choose "Advanced settings", and find the new option under “Downloads."

[Papa6]

Update: Here are some fixes that came with 14316.1000:

• We fixed the issue where on some PCs with TPM chips, such as the ASUS Zenbook UX31, you may have experienced glitchy audio and jumpy movement when using the trackpad due to the “tpm-maintenance” task running constantly in the background instead of once per boot-up like it should.

• We fixed the issue where if you use Hyper-V and have a Virtual Switch configured for your network adapter, you might see an error indicator (red-colored “X”) for your network adapter in the notification area of your taskbar.

• We polished the Wi-Fi flyout UI and fixed an issue where text entry into a Wi-Fi password field was noticeably top-aligned rather than centered.

• We fixed an issue for where when using multiple monitors and full-screen apps like PowerPoint or Remote Desktop would crash Windows Explorer.

• We fixed an issue where Cortana wasn’t showing Settings pages in the search results.

• We have updated the Windows Update notification after updates have been installed so now clicking on the notification will take you straight to your update history.

• We fixed an issue where desktop (Win32) apps pinned to the Start menu would sometimes move after updating to a new build.

• We fixed an issue where “Update and Restart” and “Update and Shut Down” wouldn’t start an update.

Here's what's broken yet with this build:

 The Visual Studio emulator for Windows 10 Mobile and Hololens will fail with “An authentication error has occurred. The Local Security Authority cannot be contacted”. If you are a developer and require the emulator for building apps, we suggesting moving to the Slow ring and skipping this build until we can fix this issue.
We continue to investigate issues with Narrator and other screen reader apps that make them unable to read selected text in the Feedback Hub, Cortana, and other apps.
In Microsoft Edge, some large downloads may appear to get stuck at 99% completion. You can work around this issue by renaming the file in your downloads after closing Microsoft Edge. This workaround skips security checks on the file, so it should be used only with files from a trusted source.
In some cases, attempting to turn on Developer Mode on may crash the Settings app. If this happens, the workaround is to use these steps here to enable Developer Mode.
Some apps notifications may only show the icon – however the full text of the notification will be visible within Action Center.

Edited April 6, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

Just in!!! I found a screen shot of the Ubuntu in Windows Bash in action: Bash is a new feature mentioned a few days ago at the Microsoft developers convention, actually last week or early this week.

 

I was just told that the terms and conditions for use for this bash, Ubuntu in Windows is done by Microsoft 

Credit: Ian S. at neowin.net

Edited April 6, 2016 by Papa6
credit

[Papa6]

Windows 10 14316.1000 had developer mode automatically enabled(I disabled developer mode myself) and I installed Bash (while I had developer mode enabled) for linux by activating the Linux BETA subsystem. Here are the steps.

First go to settings>update and security>for developers

then in Cortana, type in turn windows features on.. which will give you this window:

once you click the Linux subsystem (Beta*) use at your own risk in Beta!, you will have to reboot your system. then you open powershell or CMD window and type "bash" to install Linux:

and you should have an easy installation of Ubuntu Linux on your PC.

Cheers!

** Licensing. the Licensing for Bash is a agreement that is by Microsoft and NOT canonical.. go figure but seems to show Microsoft's willingness to play fair with opensource. hopefully in the Anniversary/Redstone update this summer, developer mode won't have to be enabled. but I'll keep you posted

Edited April 7, 2016 by Papa6
additions for clarity and additional info

[Papa6]

Update 4/7/2016. I found that my system won't shutdown nor restart (fast ring builds tend to have issues) So I went back to the prior build and am back on 14295 again. no worries. I'm also back on the slow ring

[Papa6]

Friends, this is the end of the line on this thread for me. I managed to purchase a DVD with every version of Windows 7( from a reputable seller). I use Home Premium which I have an actual installation key. But with 10, I love the OS a LOT. its fast, reacts well, the features but, I like my old games more at the moment. I still have my windows 10 installation USB and will always be there. But the way I work, on the Desktop, which it appears from the news I read that, Windows 10 is being brought back to a more windows 8/8.1 with more structure geared towards the tiles and active tiles for touchscreen tablets. we shouldn't have to install an app like classic shell or start 10 by stardock to get a start menu a user likes or is used to.

So I'm back on Windows 7 Home Premium. I can pass on new news but I'm not a user of 10 anymore. cheers. BTW, you can download .ISO files for windows 7 anyway. pretty soon it will be abandonware anyway when support ends. Vista's ends next year at this time. I love Vista as well.

Papa6

Edited April 15, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

they knackered up the start menu finally. not too many people are pleased with this. Many think they are forcing 10 to be geared for tablets and mobile devices now. a death kneel for MS is on some folks minds. MS lost 30 billion roughly in lower shares so people aren't feeling good about MS right now. my advice: stick with 7 if your system came with it or 8.1. 

 

[Papa6]

update* it seems I've heard word that MS is more tablet/device oriented and moving away from the desktop. I have heard word that a group or company Codeweavers

are building DX11 into linux with Wine. Hey gamers! DirectX 11 is coming to Linux thanks to CodeWeavers and Wine. So with this feature being worked on, Could Microsofts days as the desktop leader be over? This system by codeweavers could very well, displace Microsoft Windows as a gaming platform which started out with Steam on Linux some years ago. But they are promising that you can run your windows software on Linux through Wine and DirectX11 together!

What does this mean? Well, from my experience, the easiest Linux that has gotten a lot of support and is popular for new enthusiasts to Linux is Ubuntu. Which is built off the Debian branch. But We might very well see our gaming slide over to Linux in the not too distant future.

I'll keep you posted!

Papa6  

Edited April 26, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

Update 5/3/2016- Currently the word is that Microsoft is trying to seriously push the windows store as a walled in system. it appears they want to push this walled in environment across the OS. basically taking what Windows was, an open back yard and relegating Windows 10 more into a nursery room environment.

Not sure how this will play out but, if they push for this "walled garden" approach. but some seem to be saying it won't happen for a long time if ever.

Epic co founder calls out MS on walled garden UWP Epic co-founder calls out Microsoft's UWP platform, calls it a 'walled garden'

 

my thoughts. I have heard that and here's a quote

His overall point is that Microsoft aims to monopolize app distribution. While not denouncing the Store itself, he denounces the idea that UWP apps cannot be obtained from outside of the Store.

The specific problem here is that Microsoft’s shiny new “Universal Windows Platform” is locked down, and by default it’s impossible to download UWP apps from the websites of publishers and developers, to install them, update them, and conduct commerce in them outside of the Windows Store.

Edited May 3, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

so this leads me to believe that Microsoft wants to be in control of apps in the UWP arena. This leads me also to believe MS is in a hostile bid to take over all gaming from all developers/publishers.

 

Some say its not true or possible some think so, (EPIC game dev). however at any rate, I'll keep an eye on this

Edited May 3, 2016 by Papa6

[Papa6]

I've made a conscious decision that before I consider to honestly upgrade to Windows 10, would be AFTER this summers anniversary build release ( aptly named redstone 1) and when about 80% of the promised features that MS has promised to go into 10 are in and stable.