Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 (edited) I am finally up and running again! My computer upgrades are here. The hardware listed in bold is new: AMD Athlon XP 2500+ w/ 333Mhz FSB ASUS A7N8X nForce2 Motherboard with, 400/333/266 FSB, 8x/PRO AGP Slot, 5 PCI slots. 2x 265Mb of PC2100 RAM 1x 128Mb of PC2100 RAM 300 Watt Antec PSU (Soon to be 420) Leadtek A-250 128Mb AGP 4x Card w/ nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4400 Chip SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer Windows 2000 Professional 6x Stock Case Fans Memorex 52x24x52 CD-R/W Burner Lite-On 48x CD Drive Edited June 3, 2003 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kamakazi 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 *wishes he could have a system that good* *looks at stock Dell he is typing at* *looks in wallet for money* *sees two pennies fall to the ground* *wonders what he can buy with that* *looks on internet* *finds he can buy 3 inches of insulated wire* I am getting there....piece by piece.........LOL Really dude nice PC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 A little tip to help you get there faster... good grades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Crimson, can it run dual-channel DDR with 3 sticks of ram? Also, are you overclocking your ram (since you have PC2100) to PC2700/333 levels? If not, you're holding your system back because the CPU now works at 333. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 No, it can only run dual-channel DDR with two sticks in banks one and two. As for overclocking RAM, I have never tried it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
firefly2442 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 How do you like the Lite-On drive? Cool system setup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Lite-On is the best. One question... with, lets say, two case fans, how hot should an AMD Athlon at my speed be, anyone know? (RooK ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super-Bob 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 No higher than 52 C I would say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Crimson, NJ on the rig, though, as RooK mentioned, the RAM frequency will be a small detriment to the processor. For CPU temp, one really cannot say that there is a "standard" operating temperature for a specific CPU. There are too many variables. - Ambient room temperature - Air flow constrants in the case - Number of fans - Heatsink - Other system components generating BTUs. Here is what you need to do to obtain the lowest possible temperature for your processor: 1. Purchase a worthy HS/F combo. (ThermalTake V9, ThermalRight AX-7, SK-7, SLK-800, or Alpha, etc.) 2. Purchase Arctic Silver III (apply per manufacturer's directions) 3. Route all cabling to case perimeters. Avoid clumping of power cables, etc. 4. Consider at least one intake fan, along with one exhaust fan (more intake fans are actually better than more exhaust fans - you need to keep the cool air flowing into the case. Some cases will allow you to mount one or two on the rear, along with one on the top as a blowhole.) 5. Increase your electric bill by reducing ambient room temp to 65 degrees Fahrenhiet. Generally speaking, your CPU should stay around 40C or lower during idle/non-use. Maximum load should not exceed that of the recommended chip temperature (as indicated by Ordering Part Number (OPN), which is located on the top of the processor). Example: A X1800 D M S 3 C Maximum operating temperature is noted by the third character to the right of the OPN. So in this example, it is S. V=85C, T=90C, S=95C MAX Typically, with equipping your CPU with a good HS/F, along with AS3, you should be in the 43-50C during Maximum usage. It all depends on your variables. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 (edited) So long as the case stays at room temperature (varies on case design as to how many fans are needed) the HSF combo is what makes the biggest difference. As for cpu temperatures, I'll tell you this, the Barton core is one of the coolest running Athlon cores. So, with a good hsf, you should be able to stay in the 30's no problem. I'd only start to worry if I was getting in the 60s, but cooler is always better. Also, on the die you can learn you're core stepping(revision) and find out its potential for overclocking compared to how others of the same stepping have overclocked. My Palimino 1700XP is an AGOGA, just behind the AGOIA-Y in overclocking usually. Just another little tidbit Edited June 3, 2003 by RooK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 (edited) After an hour running Raven Shield, I was up to 123F. (52C I believe...) And, like I said, I have SIX case fans. Looks like Ill be buying a HS/F combo when I upgrade my wimpy PSU. Thanks for the info guys. Edit: By the time I clicked edit, I am down to 46C. Edited June 3, 2003 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeXaN 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 i need a new case with more fans better HS,F with some thermal grease cause im sitting here runnin 50c course when im runnin at full load doesnt really get that hot only 7 more degrees and thats F so i dont know how that would come out to C but o well and then again it is summer time in texas lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruin 17 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Do a search on NewEgg.com for a Thermalright SK-7. That should keep it cool. And then grab a fan to stick on top of it. Even look for ALPHA PAL6035MUC. You can try this link but soemtimes it wont work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Share Posted June 3, 2003 Do all the new nforce2 boards have the holes around the sockets? If not, you can't use the Alpha or Swiftech, plus you have to dismount your mb. I'm a big advocate of Thermalright heatsinks. My AX-7 will idle at 32c at stock speeds. Crimson, sure it isn't room temperature limiting you? Higher the room temperature the less cooling can be done. Next, look at the arrangement of your case fans. You need to try and create a wind tunnel that works together with ones at the lower front blowing in and ones at the back top blowing out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 3, 2003 Author Share Posted June 3, 2003 Well, Id use my digital camera to show you what it looks like, but I dont have a website to host them anymore so, Ill try and explain as best I can. There are four case fans in the lower front section of the case, stacked, two on two, next to each other, making a square shape. Two are sucking in, and two are blowing out. There is one fan a side panel that is blowing out, and one in the rear sucking in. Also, the PSU im using is an old spare, and its only blowing out hot air in the PSU. What is the best setup for my fans? Im thinking the one in the back and on the side panel sucking in, and the four at the front blowing out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 I think I would do as you said: four in front blowing and other two sucking in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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