Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Hey guys, I found this forum completely by accident Today I installed Ghost Recon for the first time in YEARS, and my performance is dismal to say the least. I set all detail settings to maximum and the resolution to 1024x768 and it stutters like crazy. At times my framerate is as low as 3fps. Zooming in with the sniper rifle affects it most, as well as urban areas (level 6 I think, I can't play it because it's jerking so badly). My computer more than meets the requirements: Athlon FX-55 @ 3.05GHz 1.5GB RAM @ 236MHz 1.5-2-2-5 Radeon 4670 @ 820/1180 Windows 7 64bit Please help, this is the best game ever written, back when gameplay was more important than graphics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I agree you have plenty of computer to play the game. You could try turning shadows off and dead bodies off to see if that helps at all. Do you have anything running in the background. I really note a hit in performance when a scheduled virus scan is running. Run a dxdiag and post here. Maybe Windows 7 doesn't have that? I'm completely unfamiliar with Win7 but is there a way to run the game in an XP emulator with Win7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Im running GR on Windows 7 and its silky smooth and its not running under XP mode Only suspect i can think of is the Ram ? They say W7 uses 1.5GB to run its self, just maybe its coming up short for the running the game Intel i7 3.4ghz Asus Rampage II 6GB Patriot DDR3 ram GeForce GTX285 1024MB DDR3 Windows 7 Edited October 21, 2009 by Hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) I've just tried XP compatibility mode, same thing. Level 5 nets me between 1fps and 6fps, monitored with FRAPS. If I turn all shadows off I get several HUNDRED frames per second, it doesn't take anything away from gameplay but seriously, shadows don't hurt that much... I see you ninja edited, according to Task Manager I have over a gig free, and I have no problem with other (newer) games such as Oblivion, Fall Out 3, etc. I have another rig which I can try this on, Phenom 2 @ 4.7ghz, 4gigs DDR3, 5870 1GB but this machine is way over powered for the game as it stands. I remember playing it on a Celeron 1GHz with 192MB RAM and a TNT 2 graphics card... Edited October 21, 2009 by Oj0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Just noticed you have posted this in the GRAW forums? when you talk about Ghost Recon are you talking about the original game ? Ghost Recon . Desert sege & Island Thunder or About Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter ??? Just so we know Edited October 21, 2009 by Hammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I seem to have a habit of making mistakes whenever I post from my phone, this is the Ghost Recon, not the new 'rubbish' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I seem to have a habit of making mistakes whenever I post from my phone, this is the Ghost Recon, not the new 'rubbish' LOL No problems Oj0 Im sure one of the Mods will move it to the right place. Oh and Welcome to the Forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I thought I'd outgrown gaming, the last game to keep my attention for more than a few minutes was Half Life 2. I fired up Ghost Recon for the first time in about half a decade and boom, three hours have flown by Thanks for the welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Shadows are a real killer and if you are running close to the limit on RAM Fraps is a real system killer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I used to play it perfectly back on my TNT 2, and my the shadows are taking my performance as low as 1/400th normal frame rate. If it were half I could live with it but it's down from 400 to as low as 1. FRAPS works fine with Oblivion which I'm sure uses ten times as much RAM as Ghost Recon, so I'm not convinced the problem lies there either. Besides, with it running and shadows off I'm still hitting 400fps at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 humm no sure then, i know i suffer a huge drop in fram rates if i run FRAPS well playing GR even with my system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I've just spent the last half hour browsing the forum archives and it seems hundreds of people get rubbish performance with shadows enabled, the engine just can't handle it. I've also compared framerates with the toggleframerate command and FRAPS and the difference is next to nothing? It's well within the margine of error. Anyway, special thanks to wombat for suggesting I turn shadows off And thanks to you, hammer, for your suggestions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat50 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 If you want to go to the trouble of updating your video card and sound device drivers that may pay off. GR at one time was notorious for needing sound device drivers updated to make the game perform better. But that was eons ago. I always hated updating video card drivers and you having Windows 7 64bit may or may not make it any easier for you. I always stumbled through a video card driver update myself. Welcome to the forums Oj0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Just one question, do you have a dedicated sound card at all installed on your PC? GR was notorious for bringing PCs with integrated sound to it's knees and inducing single digit frame rates on such systems, I had that problem myself and once I installed a dedicated sound card, frame rates increased. Welcome to the forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 I don't, I'm using onboard sound with the 'Realtek Xfi' drivers. Basically hacked drivers to enable all the software sound enhancements of the Creative Xfi which now get done on the CPU, so if sound kills performance I definitely have my suspect. Oh well, I can live without the shadows, the game is so immersing you don't notice anyway Thanks again for the welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Compo Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Hi. I found that by increasing the RAM to the minimum 6Gb for a similar machine spec worked wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oj0 Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 Going over Windows needs + 2GB won't net you anything, Ghost Recon is a 32bit application and as such can only address 2GB RAM anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 If you are using a newer OS like Vista, all the RAM you can install will help, even if a program can only use a max amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gache Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Only if you're using a 64-bit version. AFAIK 32-bit OSs still have no way past the 32-bit memory addressing limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Yes, you are right, 32 bit Windows OS's can only use about 3.4 GB of RAM. In my case, I have Vista 64 on my desktop and have 6GB of RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronovan Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I realize this thread hasn't been visited for almost a week, but Ojo's performance problem is perplexing to me. I'm averaging about 60 fps on a PC with this wimpy spec: AMD x64 3200 1 GB PC3200 RAM Geforce 7600 SB Audigy II I'm also running with everything maxed in game and with my Vid card settings set to max for visual quality. The only compromise I've had to make was to set Anti Aliasing from 8s to 4x, and that was only only because performance dipped to about 35fps a few times in Island Thunder and some of the community mods. Of course one difference big difference for me is that I'm still running WinXP w/SP3 and at a rez of 1280 x 720. I'm not that familiar with the FX-55 CPU, but if it's dual or quad core, something I've read in a number of forums is that dual and quads sometimes have problems scaling older Windows games. There's a utility called IMAGECFG that allows you to set affinity for any EXE to only 1 processor. I know it works with Vista, but I'm not sure if it works on Windows 7, but It might be worth giving it a try to see if it helps. It's available from a lot of sites on the web, just google for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 My money is with the onboard sound. Stick a sound card in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronovan Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 My money is with the onboard sound. Stick a sound card in there Yup...that's a good point, and one of the differences between his specs and others that have been posted here. I'd personally never go without a dedicated Sound Card. I'm amazed at how many posts I've read on various forums however, where people claim onboard sound chips are less CPU intensive. As far as I'm concerned 90% of the performance is in the quality of the drivers, and I don't see the incentive for manufacturers of 1-size-fits-all onboard chips to really optimize. Not that Creative Labs and Turtle Beach haven't occassionally come up with some real duds in the driver department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeekerII Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 Lets not forget that Windows 7 is also involved. We do lots of testing at my work, and i have noticed at times that Win7 sitting at idle consumes 1.5 meg just to keep happy. I don't suppose that the problem system is duel core? If so, you could move your security packages and some other system processes to a dedicated processor. If it were me, I'd bump the memory up to at least 4 Gig, XP can handle most of that, would allocate some more to other system proc's. My 2 cents worth.. Seekerii aka Stormlord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'm surprized no one noticed this. Shut off your overclock and see how it runs. (unless i'm reading you wrong most people put an @ before the speed meaning that it originally doesn't run @ that speed) Also try running the game in compatibility for XP. (right click the shortcut, left click properties..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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