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No....Us first this time on Oct. 9th

This just in:

Demo Delayed

I know there has been a lot of speculation recently regarding the demo plans, and I just wanted to give you all a situation report on what the current plans now are.

Whilst we had originally planned to release a demo prior to launch, these plans have now had to be changed. The demo plans now are that we will now be releasing a single player and co-op demo on PC only post launch of the full game.

The main factor in this decision was to ensure that the full game received 100% focus and attention before it’s release. We know how long many of you have waited for this game, and we wanted it to be as polished as it can possibly be for your enjoyment, and this is why the demo has had to be pushed back.

I hope we can keep the responses here constructive and I’ll do my best to keep you as updated as possible. I don’t have any more information than this right now, but as soon as I can confirm the release date for it I’ll let you know first.

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Ian 'Helios' Webster

Community Manager Codemasters

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No....Us first this time on Oct. 9th

This just in:

Demo Delayed

I know there has been a lot of speculation recently regarding the demo plans, and I just wanted to give you all a situation report on what the current plans now are.

Whilst we had originally planned to release a demo prior to launch, these plans have now had to be changed. The demo plans now are that we will now be releasing a single player and co-op demo on PC only post launch of the full game.

The main factor in this decision was to ensure that the full game received 100% focus and attention before it’s release. We know how long many of you have waited for this game, and we wanted it to be as polished as it can possibly be for your enjoyment, and this is why the demo has had to be pushed back.

I hope we can keep the responses here constructive and I’ll do my best to keep you as updated as possible. I don’t have any more information than this right now, but as soon as I can confirm the release date for it I’ll let you know first.

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Ian 'Helios' Webster

Community Manager Codemasters

And this is why im very dubious about buying this game. Apart from the fact that it doesn't look to in the same vein as the original OFP. This game had great initial aims when it was announced but slowly those aims have been hit back. Never trust a game that doesnt have a demo before launch. I have a feeling [OFP: DR] will stink.

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I actually like the fact that in making sure the full game is as ready for release as possible they are concentrating on just that...the full game, instead of splitting their time and attention on demos, PR events -or worse follow-on expansions.

There are plenty of recent examples of titles out there where the pubs/devs dropped the ball and rushed (or neglected) the horse as they concentrated on the cart.

CM would do well to learn from BIS' mistakes...release it only when it is ready for release, and not a moment sooner. And in making sure that the title is ready the companys programmers, artists, administrators and janitors should be employed in play-testing & bug-hunting the thing prior to release.

A polished product out of the gate will do more for sales (and PR) than a teaser demo pre-release ever will.

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Never trust a game that doesnt have a demo before launch.
I would go along with that if there were no plans for a demo at all and it was strictly Buyer Beware, but since this is not the case and no purchase is necessary to try it out, what's the big deal?
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No Quarter BIS are tiny compared to CM and have a history of releasing a poor product but continue with patches to make it better and there products are aimed at people that use this forum.

CM own a product name and what have they said so far thats important to me

No mission editor for console

No lean whatsoever

No dedi server file at launch and no promise of when it may be available

What do you want a game aimed at you that fails at the start but they try to fix it or a game thats aimed at 10 year olds with NO promise of what you want?

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And this is why im very dubious about buying this game. Apart from the fact that it doesn't look to in the same vein as the original OFP. This game had great initial aims when it was announced but slowly those aims have been hit back. Never trust a game that doesnt have a demo before launch. I have a feeling [OFP: DR] will stink.

So you must be talking about ARMA2 ;)

Stinky phoo's just like Ghost Recon mate ! I remember all the negativity on that one.

Seriously you missed alot, I went to Cm HQ for the day, had full hands on no holds barred everything & spoke with lead designers and devs. At the end of the day it all depends what your looking for, if you want Arma2 then forget it, see BIS, if you want COD forget it see infinity ward, if you want a ghost recon styled clone then check it out.

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/sho...ght=viiiper%27s

But like I said, who really cares, I'm just playing it because it suits me......

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That fair enough. But what I'm looking for is a sequel to OFP. And from what I can see DR definately isn't it. And it sure as hell aint no GR clone.

But as you went to actually see and play the game obviousily it offers what you are looking for in a game. But that could differ from what other OFP fans want. Can you honestly say that its a true sequel to OFP other than in name only?

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It's cause you all have to stop thinking that OFP:DR is a sequel or anything related to the OFP series.

It just has the name, nothing more.

It's a new game and as that should be analyzed.

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It's cause you all have to stop thinking that OFP:DR is a sequel or anything related to the OFP series.

It just has the name, nothing more.

It's a new game and as that should be analyzed.

100%

That is the problem some are stuck on a name and not a game, it's new it's different.

It's nothing like OFP1 in looks or scale it's like I said, more Ghost recon styled, CQB with

command and immersion.

All those wanting OFP1 again try ARMA2, so easy, All those wanting Ghost recon original part two, take a look, it is not the same but it's got the feeling. Wait for the PC demo and try for free.

:wall: OFP1 =/= [OFP: DR]

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It's cause you all have to stop thinking that OFP:DR is a sequel or anything related to the OFP series.

It just has the name, nothing more.

It's a new game and as that should be analyzed.

100%

That is the problem some are stuck on a name and not a game, it's new it's different.

It's nothing like OFP1 in looks or scale it's like I said, more Ghost recon styled, CQB with

command and immersion.

But the main problem here is that Codemaster is "cheating" all these people. They should be the first ones saying that.

And i didn't hear any word from them in that way.

You can say that the name "belongs" to them and all you want, but from a real and neutral point of view you can't deny they use the name to exactly do that.

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I don't think they are cheating anyone of normal thinking...

Who in their right mind believes 0fp2 = ofp1

BIS community made it quite clear OFP1 successor = ARMA1 or 2

Who really cares, the name belongs to Cm FACT not FICTION

OFP1 was published and paid for by Cm. FACT not FICTION.

BIS owns all property rights but the name (fools)

Codemasters owns the trade mark “Operation Flashpoint,”

Bohemia Interactive licensed its creation to Codemasters to publish and distribute.

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I don't think they are cheating anyone of normal thinking...

Dragon Rising as the “return of†or “official sequel to†the genre-defining game Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis.

U remember the letter from BIS, don't you?

So yes they are trying to cheat people.

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I don't think they are cheating anyone of normal thinking...

Dragon Rising as the “return of” or “official sequel to” the genre-defining game Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis.

U remember the letter from BIS, don't you?

So yes they are trying to cheat people.

Man, seriously, that was history...... but yes I remember and so does everyone else at that time... since then they have dropped the terms.

You are using present tense, it was in the past, I'm not here to defend Cm, I frankly don't give a ###### (brown stuff).

The more money Cm make the better for me :D

Role out the piper.... come ye all to my merry wheel..... Original is back :P

j/k

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Im with viiper - who cares what CM said it would be - its a new game and its trying to be big world in the same vein as the original but is not there yet.

Buy the game or don't but whining about what they said is or isn't duznt change what will be.

This is their first crack at developing on this engine and they had to set a scope for how much they would fit into this first release or they could have spent another 2 years developing.

I'm happy to play what there is now and look forward to the vast improvements that will be implemented in the next release. It ownt be perfect but it will be solid - I can see that already.

And if I need a change - I go play Arma2 - I cant lose!!

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