Crimson 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 nVidia and AMD announces the nForce 3 chip. Read here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 (edited) Too bad none of you guys have a 64 bit chip. It is ment more for servers not gamers anyways. Hence the specifically for the 64-bit AMD Opteron™ processor. server chip built-for part. And its support for RAID. Edited May 8, 2003 by Stinger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 Yes, but its more of a sign of things to come. Plus Im sure its offly puuuurtty to look at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I want one...and an Opteron too...mmm Opteron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
300Mag 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I've been following the Athlon64 for a while. Very much looking forward to adding one to my stable. The idea of running 32bit applications and being progressivly capable of 64 is a sweet thought. The 32 bit stuff I've seen benchmarked actually runs faster. What a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 I have read many reviews and seen benches from the Opteron, and so far it doesnt really look so impressive. In the end all the reviews and such come down to saying that 64bit is only really a benefit overall for servers. Most Home PC users will gain very little in all reality. And no thats not cause I prefer Intel. I would go AMD if they IMO had something that was worthwhile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Author Share Posted May 8, 2003 Yeah, because we all know AMD has never made anything worthwhile. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Stinger, what are you going on about? The Operton chips don't even have a frequency or equivelant rating, but still beat their competitively prices Xeon and Itanium 2 counterparts. 64bit overall for servers is probably citing the lack of 64bit home user programs. That will change very soon, UT2k3 is already available in 64bit and was shown running on an Operton at an AMD pr show. Gamers will see a big jump in performance due to the on-chip memory controller which shortens ram latency to a non-issue and allows memory to work hand-in-hand with the cpu, as well as the faster processing of data. They also support SSE2 (HA @ Intel) and possibly a form of Intels HThreading. Also, noone has mentiong the Hyper-Transport bus AMD made to act as a southbridge, but much much more effiecent. Prices will also be lower for the Athlon64, since its for the home user and not servers. The nforce3 will be available for home users in the same or new form, nvidia won't miss the chance to gain AMD market share seeing as they aren't and probably won't ever make an Intel chipset. They may have only listed the Operton because it's the only one available atm, companies have a habbit of doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Yeah, because we all know AMD has never made anything worthwhile. I guess I should rephrase that to say, any thing overly oustanding that would make me want an AMD cpu over an Intel one. When they do IMO I won't hesitate to make the switch. Its all about performance not which brand you like to say is the best. Stinger, what are you going on about? The Operton chips don't even have a frequency or equivelant rating, but still beat their competitively prices Xeon and Itanium 2 counterparts. 64bit overall for servers is probably citing the lack of 64bit home user programs. That will change very soon, UT2k3 is already available in 64bit and was shown running on an Operton at an AMD pr show. I've seen the Itanium at par with the Opteron, neither beat one or another in the end. The Xeon on the other hand was kicked out by both CPU's. Yeah and UT2K3 ran better on 32bit cpu's and not the Opteron. Check the benches. Gamers will see a big jump in performance due to the on-chip memory controller which shortens ram latency to a non-issue and allows memory to work hand-in-hand with the cpu, as well as the faster processing of data. They also support SSE2 (HA @ Intel) and possibly a form of Intels HThreading. Also, noone has mentiong the Hyper-Transport bus AMD made to act as a southbridge, but much much more effiecent. Prices will also be lower for the Athlon64, since its for the home user and not servers. The prices will be lower and some functions will be different. But if the Opteron is the main representative of what the Athlon64 will end up being and is close to it, then it doesn't have much. The nforce3 will be available for home users in the same or new form, nvidia won't miss the chance to gain AMD market share seeing as they aren't and probably won't ever make an Intel chipset. They may have only listed the Operton because it's the only one available atm, companies have a habbit of doing that. Yeah, they called it the professional one, so Im assuming the non "Professional" one with be for home users. I have seen noted performance perks in MySQL tests and some other Server apps but not in games. The Itanium II @ 1 Ghz beat the Opteron @ 1.8GHz in the POV ray Benches even I call that some woop######. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
300Mag 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 When the Athlon64 comes out, it will run existing 32bit apps, including games. It's already doing this right now on beta platforms. Plus, it's doing it faster than native 32bit processors currently in use. Try that with Itanium. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Stinger, what's the price of the I2 compared to that Operton? Not to mention, that's one singled out bench and the highest frequency Opertons still aren't off the presses yet. They can hit well over 2.2ghz. When they ran that UT2k3 at the pr show, Opertons were still running @ 800mhz. I don't know if these benches you saw somewhere were from the same system or not, but that's what I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 8, 2003 Share Posted May 8, 2003 Stinger, what's the price of the I2 compared to that Operton? Not to mention, that's one singled out bench and the highest frequency Opertons still aren't off the presses yet. They can hit well over 2.2ghz. When the Athlon64 comes out, it will run existing 32bit apps, including games. It's already doing this right now on beta platforms. Plus, it's doing it faster than native 32bit processors currently in use. Try that with Itanium How can you say that, do you have benches? I didn't know they were even out yet. The Opteron sure as hell isn't though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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