NYR_32 6 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 (edited) I think my new rig is ok, after a new cpu and motherboard it's working. I ran 3D Mark 2001se and my score was 6348- I have no idea if its good or not so let me know. P-4 2.4 ghz, 512 mb ddr pc2700, Geforce 4 Ti4200 128mb, Maxtor 80.gb 8 mb cache Edited May 6, 2003 by NYR_32 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Good Job bro! Ya finally got it working...so if it wasn't the CPU, it was the motherboard. I knew something probably got fried. Oh well, it's working now I see. Had to pull up your system specs, as I forgot what all you were putting in there. You got a nice rig though. About the 3DMark: Benchmarks are nice, and high scores at the end of a test are great, but it really comes down to in-game performance. There are some people that will go all out, even stripping down an OS to its skeleton, for 100 extra points. But as long as it performs good in a game, or whatever you are going to do with it, it doesn't really matter what score you got. JMO on the matter. So tell me, did you "test" out GR yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYR_32 6 Posted May 6, 2003 Author Share Posted May 6, 2003 (edited) I'm playing GR as I type, hehe doing awesome, all settings to the max with shadows, with 2x antiasling and 4x antriscopic filtering, humming along at about 70fps on original GR maps. Edited May 6, 2003 by NYR_32 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 That's exactly what I mean...very nice NYR_32. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 About the 3DMark: Benchmarks are nice, and high scores at the end of a test are great, but it really comes down to in-game performance. There are some people that will go all out, even stripping down an OS to its skeleton, for 100 extra points. But as long as it performs good in a game, or whatever you are going to do with it, it doesn't really matter what score you got. JMO on the matter. That is right on. Benches are often overrated. Nice setup NYR32. I think this is odd though. Your $100+ card does a little over 1200 in 3D2K1 better than my $30 GF MX440. P-4 2.4 ghz Man your rig rocks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYR_32 6 Posted May 6, 2003 Author Share Posted May 6, 2003 (edited) My rig is nice, but Stinger you would freak if you saw my cpu temps, about 42 degrees idle and 55 load (celcius of course). Edited May 6, 2003 by NYR_32 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 My rig is nice, but Stinger you would freak if you saw my cpu temps, about 42 degrees idle and 55 load (celcius of course). So so wrong. No mor eupgrades till you either cool her down or shoot her and put her outta her misery! Man thats hot. Your idle is my load Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYR_32 6 Posted May 6, 2003 Author Share Posted May 6, 2003 Hehe its driving you nuts ain't it, I still have some work to do on the inside, and AS3 has a burn in time so the temps should drop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 They will drop, but only to a certain degree. I still recommend purchasing a good heatsink/fan combo. I spent $25 for mine and it was one of the best investments for this rig. My temps with stock hsf were as follows: 48C/118F @ idle 56C/132F @ Max load With lapped TT V9 & Silver Thermal Compound: 38C/100F @ idle 45C/113F @ Max load I still idle a bit higher than I'd like to, but that is because the ambient temp is always 78-80F in my 'puter room. Oh, to have it 65F all the time...wait, I'm beginning to sound like Stinger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 The Stock Intel HSF is arguably the best. Only the Vantec Aeroflow really can compete with it. (Or a custom combo like mine ). And If I had either of you two's temps I would not be going to sleep tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urban_Tiger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 Oh no, ya did it again Stinger rofl...... As per a different and recent post, my Athlon XP2400+ after bedding in is currently running at 32° C idle and an impressive 36° C loaded (sort of flickers between 36-37 actually), surprised?? I thought I had a big problem with something faulty and not recording temps properly, so then instantly set about installing the Stand Alone Temp Probe and the Mobo monitor software that I hadn't quite got round to to make sure it wasn't under reading on me and I was infact cooking the thing without my knowledge rofl, but it's checked and verified !. Thats with the stock HSF supplied by AMD with the CPU m8 lol ! Thats confirmed by the 3 different readings too, (BIOS, the Gigabyte Mobo monitoring software which is surprisingly accurate in Windows from some software I've used in the past and also with the Temp Probe stuck to the CPU that leads to the LCD Temp Display on the front of my case lol)!! All read exactly the same ! Was considering getting one of the Volcano 9's, 10's or 11's that people seem to keep raving about, but it seems I don't have to rush getting it doesn't it lol!! I'd say it's 50/50 m8 TBH, both manufacturers are very good when it really comes down to the crunch, I just can't understand why you have this deep seething for AMD?? I know people tend to get biased over what kit they use, but boy you seem to have it in for them hehehe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 @Tiger, what are the real temps then? I think I may not be understanding you so correct me if those are the right temps. @Peeps, I know nothing about the Stock AMD HSF, only the Intel one. The Intel™ is very good and you can ask any knowledgeable person about it. I'm not an AMD fan if ya cant tell so I havent a clue on their stock HSF only on Intels. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urban_Tiger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 They are the real temps m8 lol!!!! 32°C idle and basically 36-37°C loaded ! This is what I mean about you slating AMD so frequently in so many posts too (and the passionate arguments with Rook as well hehehehe ).... The Stock Intel HSF is arguably the best. My point being there that the AMD HSF is performing here as well as the Intel seems to and how do you get to a conclusion to make such bold statements as one is better than the other when you know little about AMD???? @Peeps, I know nothing about the Stock AMD HSF, only the Intel one. The Intel™ is very good and you can ask any knowledgeable person about it. I'm not an AMD fan if ya cant tell so I havent a clue on their stock HSF only on Intels. Many agree with you as do I, Intel's kit is very good but If you don't know much about AMD etc and their products, how do you know Intels are better and can claim that Intels equipment is "arguably the best" rofl???? All I'm saying is to accept a little that Intel isn't the only manufacturer of CPU's and just because you have one that doesn't mean that AMD is ######, if you have never owned or used an AMD, why take that stance of "your not a fan of AMD" too m8, that's all lol??? They actually happen to be very good as well and over the years I've used both Intel and AMD, they are both damn good and have their individual Pro's and Con's like so many products!! As others have said in the past, I enjoy your enthusiastic posts too lol, they often bring on a smile, you just seem to be a little blinkered and argue blind that Intel is the best at everything but admitt you don't know much about AMD, with that in mind you can't really know if Intel is better than AMD can you lol ??? Don't get me wrong, I'm not slating you which I guess it's what it looks like but honestly, it's not my intention at all m8 and neither would I like to see your enthusiasm diminish either, but have a little respect for the fact that people share different views and their equipment isn't unpopular just because you or others don't have it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 NYR, basic 2001 3dmark benches for a ti4200 is around 10k running the following setup: T&L Hardware 1024x768x32 AA off Not saying you're doing bad if you are below that. If your games work to your level of satisfaction, thats all I'd ask for Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 (edited) This is my first run-through with 3DMark2001SE @ 1024x768x32: System Configuration Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000 DirectX Version 8.1 Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. Mobo Model A7V333 AGP Rates (Current/Available) N/A / 1x 2x 4x CPU Unknown 1800 MHz FSB 133 MHz Memory 1024 MB Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 Driver Version 6.13.10.4109 Video Memory 64 MB Program Version 3DMark2001 SE Resolution 1024x768 32bit Texture Format Compressed FSAA Disabled Z-Buffer Depth 24bit Frame Buffer Double Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L Detailed Test Results 3DMark Score 3539 3D marks Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 59.3 FPS Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 30.7 FPS Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 48.2 FPS Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 26.8 FPS Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 44.7 FPS Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 24.7 FPS Game 4 Nature 18.7 FPS Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 260.9 MTexels/s Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 475.9 MTexels/s High Polygon Count (1 light) 19.6 MTriangels/s High Polygon Count (8 lights) 5.8 MTriangels/s Environment Bump Mapping 35.7 FPS DOT3 Bump Mapping 30.4 FPS Vertex Shader 41.4 FPS Pixel Shader 31.2 FPS Advanced Pixel Shader 18.0 FPS Point Sprite 10.4 MSprites/s If you'll notice, I still had my A7V333 motherboard when I benchmarked that time. System Configuration Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000 DirectX Version 9.0 Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. Mobo Model A7N8X AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x 2x 4x CPU Unknown 1797 MHz FSB 133 MHz Memory 1024 MB Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 Driver Version 6.13.10.4109 Video Memory 64 MB Program Version 3DMark2001 SE Resolution 1024x768 32bit Texture Format Compressed FSAA Disabled Z-Buffer Depth 24bit Frame Buffer Double Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L Detailed Test Results 3DMark Score 11004 3D marks Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 161.5 FPS Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 56.7 FPS Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 200.9 FPS Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 111.0 FPS Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 138.7 FPS Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 63.6 FPS Game 4 Nature 68.5 FPS Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 961.3 MTexels/s Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2113.9 MTexels/s High Polygon Count (1 light) 50.2 MTriangels/s High Polygon Count (8 lights) 11.4 MTriangels/s Environment Bump Mapping 141.9 FPS DOT3 Bump Mapping 131.5 FPS Vertex Shader 89.4 FPS Pixel Shader 110.3 FPS Advanced Pixel Shader 88.7 FPS Point Sprite 28.1 MSprites/s Much different I'd say. Granted, I did OC my video card a bit for this last run-through, DX9 installed (cause of RVSH), along with purchasing a bigger HDD, but nothing else changed...just the chipset. Edited for security purposes... Edited May 7, 2003 by Dark Ranger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted May 7, 2003 Share Posted May 7, 2003 I think your last mb had problems. Something was seriously messed up to limit you to that low a 3dmark Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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