gunter Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Just for the sake of repeating myself: I truly believe the fundamental problem is that GRIN does not truly understand what a tac-sim is. Everything else is, IMHO, a question of tweaking and polishing. Respectfully krise madsen They do know that ,but sales are higher if you release Quake clones instead of tactical sims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blueberry_EBDA Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I am done talking about it now. Cheers. Thank God....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Just for the sake of repeating myself: I truly believe the fundamental problem is that GRIN does not truly understand what a tac-sim is. Everything else is, IMHO, a question of tweaking and polishing. Respectfully krise madsen They do know that ,but sales are higher if you release Quake clones instead of tactical sims. I respectfully disagree. If they wanted an "action shooter" they could just have ported the 360 version. Nobody in their right mind would make an action shooter with such slow paced gameplay. I see it more as a failed attempt at a tac-sim. Not a bad game as such, mind you, just not a real tac-sim. Respectfully krise madsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demanufakture Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am done talking about it now. Cheers. Thank God....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cell Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Some have insinuated that ghostrecon.net does not get the eye of the ones that can make a difference over at Ubi. I posted a long rant of what I'd like to see over in the next GR over at the ubi forums. Maybe some you guys should do the same. Who knows maybe someone who cares will read them and it may influence the direction of the next title. Or you will get carpel tunnel syndrome, and no one will give a ######. Either way...lets make our voices heard. UBI Graw3....GR4 discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ubi does pay attention to what is said at fansites, whether they do anything about what is said is a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Some have insinuated that ghostrecon.net does not get the eye of the ones that can make a difference over at Ubi. Uhu, that's why Ubi representatives mail me on a regular basis for input, and why we had the only functioning bug feedback forum for the GRAW2 dev team. LOL, I just saw the thread I think you are referring to. Same old same old. A banned member struggling to get over his expulsion, what a shame. Fear not Cell mate, you can make your opinions known here, it'll be heard. I truly believe the fundamental problem is that GRIN does not truly understand what a tac-sim is. Everything else is, IMHO, a question of tweaking and polishing. With all due respect to GRIN, I think they did not (past tense), but they do now. That's why they moved on That was a joke, no offence meant GRIN dudes! Edited November 22, 2007 by Rocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 From my point of view both sites and all other sites that are GR related can provide input and feed back to any Developer and Distributer alike. Ubisoft droped the ball on both games before they were created by Grin, simply by stating how the game`s direction would take, 4 man squad, hero Leader. I just want to get back what we had not what we got as an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Some have insinuated that ghostrecon.net does not get the eye of the ones that can make a difference over at Ubi. I posted a long rant of what I'd like to see over in the next GR over at the ubi forums. Maybe some you guys should do the same. Who knows maybe someone who cares will read them and it may influence the direction of the next title. Or you will get carpel tunnel syndrome, and no one will give a ######. Either way...lets make our voices heard. UBI Graw3....GR4 discussion What a great post Cell. Unfortunately past experience (all bitter ones) say that UBI will go down the same route they did with Vegas...ignore us. Maybe even tell us to "be patient" before they release a joke of a patch. (Vegas again). But not before banning users from their forums (remember SODSniper?) for airing our grievances. Personally I think it's another case of "we have our money, we've sold our games...screw them, we're working on another title to screw them over. muhahahaha". Please please please let me be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invisible Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Ubi does pay attention to what is said at fansites, whether they do anything about what is said is a different story. Yes sure,i think the url for ghostrecon.net from ubi is blocked these days (with so many ungry posts for them) P.S. They announced RSVegas 2 lol : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hi GRiN_DrHanke, I hope your day is going well. Nice to see you here as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) P.S. They announced RSVegas 2 lol : Definately NOT going to be buying that. Edited November 22, 2007 by Gaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRiN_DrHanke Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Hi GRiN_DrHanke, I hope your day is going well. Nice to see you here as usual. Thank you. Someone has to keep an eye on you guys Trying to satisfy you is another matter, but we do hear you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Trying to satisfy you is another matter, but we do hear you LMAO, you sound like my wife! (Sorry, but somebody just HAD to say it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 My opinion is that Grin tried to make a game that would appeal to both casual gamers and old GR tac players, and ended up with a game that satisfied neither. I think the tac sim game market is dead, no one makes them because not enough people buy them. At least for the 360. GB could be the sole exception for the pc crowd. As far as RSE is concerned, they ruined the MP in GRAW 2, I would have preferred Ubi do both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FI_FlimFlam Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 (edited) Thank you. Someone has to keep an eye on you guys Trying to satisfy you is another matter, but we do hear you No problem, we know you listen and do what you can. Even though we don't always agree on the decisions you guys have made with GRAW we are appreciative of your efforts. I personally am looking forward to Bionic Commando and what you guys do with. I'm particularly interested in what you do without such a closely related previous version. Hopefully it will give you some freedom compared to the shackles you had with GRAW. Good luck with it. EDIT: Oh and happy Thanksgiving to everyone here and across the pond... Cheers! Edited November 22, 2007 by FI_FlimFlam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes sure,i think the url for ghostrecon.net from ubi is blocked these days LOL, you are awhole lot nearer the truth than you suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Yes sure,i think the url for ghostrecon.net from ubi is blocked these days LOL, you are awhole lot nearer the truth than you suspect Guess the truth hurts so they cut the url out of the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 Anyone remember them putting a virtual gag order on GRIN not long ago, not to come to this site? Wouldn't surprise me to hear that being caught on GRnet cost a Ubishafter his/her job. After all, we're not their fans these days, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Anyone remember them putting a virtual gag order on GRIN not long ago, not to come to this site? Wouldn't surprise me to hear that being caught on GRnet cost a Ubishafter his/her job. After all, we're not their fans these days, are we? That's not quite true. They might have been restricted from posting for a while during the build up to the release of a patch, but they were not banned from coming to the site, after all, this is where they drew much information from for issues and feedback. So far from costing anyone their job, it'd be more like they were not doing their job fully if they didn't come. And we are still fans of the series, even if we've suffered lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 That's not quite true. They might have been restricted from posting for a while during the build up to the release of a patch, but they were not banned from coming to the site, after all, this is where they drew much information from for issues and feedback. Ah! Got it. The details area bit fuzzy, and with the frustratingly slow connections over here I didn't have the time to go searching through the old posts to find that one and get my details straight. Thanks for clearing that up! So far from costing anyone their job, it'd be more like they were not doing their job fully if they didn't come. Yeah, I was stating that more as a hypothetical, wouldn't-it-just-be-very-Ubishaftlike-of-them kind of thing. And we are still fans of the series, even if we've suffered lately Fair and true. Though I AM starting to feel kinda dumb being a fan of a 4-installment series, of which only 3 were for my chosen platform (I cheated and bought a used copy of GR2 for PS2, and didn't care for it enough to finish the first mission), and only ONE of which I still play to this day. But I can still PWN any map on FireFight by myself with just an M4 SOCOM and some nades. [GR] 4 LYFE, playa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Well, should Ubisoft dump the tac-sim genre or should they support it? Boy, I don't know, Ubisoft was never in the Tac-Sim biz, you must be referring to Ubi Soft. ____ Probable Working title of Ubis' next FPS - The Maginot Line. Brief - Not much in terms of gameplay, basically you just flank to avoid it. But by capitalizing on Ubis' extensive experience in linear channelling, the player will have plenty of time (between cutscenes) to enjoy those impressive and exclusive Ageia PhysX effects (PPU not included), as you drive by. ____ Ubi has left the mission area, a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_Jacket Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 , but we do hear you To listen, and then do, makes it all worth while. To listen, and do nothing, seems to be your style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 , but we do hear you To listen, and then do, makes it all worth while. To listen, and do nothing, seems to be your style GRIN is here every day checking out the forums. They most likely are working on a patch and I can tell you they are discussing what is being said here. Whether or not the publisher does anything is a different story. Neither you nor I have been in the GRIN offices and knows what they are doing, so in essence, neither you nor I know what is really happening there in regards to GRAW1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruggbutt Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Neither you nor I have been in the GRIN offices and knows what they are doing, so in essence, neither you nor I know what is really happening there in regards to GRAW1 or 2. Some of us can read minds. That being said, I think that purchase you were contemplating is a good idea WK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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