ogre_h Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 I'll bow to consensus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow2k1 Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 too many kits = too long to select a weapon = waiting long for a MP game to start if sensors are gonna be included i think there should only be 2 max for a kit and only used on CQB guns no sniper kits or long range kits i also suggest the kits to be similar to what i posted, the idea of the same primary with 5 different secondary pistols is too much maybe 2 different pistol secondaries for 1 primary MAX and that i even think is much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre_h Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 You can try to make pistol secondaries either fit the primary or be a balancing issue. For example: a rifleman with an M16 is either going to have an M9 or a Mk23 A rifleman with an AK is going to have either a Tokarev or Makrov (sp?) A rifleman with a FAL will have a Browning HP etc. A sniper might have a bolt action and HKPDW. But should only have a psitol like a Kimber Custom if he has a semi-auto rifle like an SR-25 or AR10T A demo guy with an automatic GL might also only have a PDW for backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTF-2 Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 what's the time frame for the mod? what is the release date you're aiming for? *sorry for the impatience, i just can't wait for the mod* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 (edited) We don't want it to take that long. But we still need time. The more people that help and listen to Jepetto's giving out of assignments the better. Also, please check out the other community mod threads in the other 2 sections for other updates. Ok. I know I'm gonna get fought on this but while I agree totally on ogre about sensible kits there is one thing I want considered. For snipers, please let them get decent secondary weapons. Like a subgun with a short range scope. Plus I have some exotic weapons coming in as well. I have a long barrel scoped desert eagle .50 caliber that I am coding as a GL for that extra "punch". I am also using that method with a silenced m82 rifle that is black sabbath is making for me. I will finish the models for export by the weekend. But I am busy right now with my test. Maybe if we ever do a version 2.0 I will include my completed sniper cannon mod. Boy, will that be a riot. Edited January 22, 2003 by Stalker_Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre_h Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Hey Stalker, did you have look how the Navy Seals mod coded the .50 cal to be a projectile? Earl did the same thing in Vymple. It was quite effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 LOL. Thats like asking the cookie monster if he has ever tried chocolate chip. I've been a fan of that method ever since it was introduced by maniacbikerdude and his original m82 mod. I've even went farther than that and pioneered the first anti-tank .gun file using the simple but ingenius method of coding the .prj file with a visual anti-tank explosion. Thats what gives weapons the tank killing ability....not the anti-tank hand motions. But because my model for the ntw20 20mm amr wasn't finished yet, the first tank killing rifle was released by Streinger in the Croation Army Mod (RT-20 20mm). In fact, my rifle's .gun file will have characteristics similiar to the navy seals 2.0 mod's macmillian tactical .50 caliber rifle. I believe that is the one you are refering to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogre_h Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Yeah, they had also recoded the M82 barret that way as well. I use it alot in my personal combo mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streinger Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 I've even went farther than that and pioneered the first anti-tank .gun file using the simple but ingenius method of coding the .prj file with a visual anti-tank explosion. Thats what gives weapons the tank killing ability....not the anti-tank hand motions. But because my model for the ntw20 20mm amr wasn't finished yet, the first tank killing rifle was released by Streinger in the Croation Army Mod (RT-20 20mm). As much as I would like to take a credit to that, I must say that it was @Jepetto that pioneered the path for me. Long before my RT-20 (and I presume your NTW-20 too) he made some sort of M-4/Masterkey, with underbarrel wep coded to kill tanks. That wep was never released in any mod and had alot of "bugs" to it...aiming was near impossible, short range, blast radius way too big (you could end up blowing your self up)..but it worked, and it gave me the right kind of ideas. I used that Masterkey as a starting point and refined it into a fine-tuned, realistic as possible (in GR engine terms) .gun file that RT-20 is using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Oh ok then. I guess he was the true pioneer. But at least my model looks cool. lol. Hey we need to conference really. about mod I mean. my msn messenger email again is. olternat@hotmail.com find me that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Slink Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 Oh ok then. I guess he was the true pioneer. But at least my model looks cool. lol. And that is more important. Have you spoken to any modmakers about using their guns? I'm not complaining but the original vision was the best of the best and while the new things are excellent the go against that. I love this. When is the weapons list going to be updated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 I've been trying to keep communication between the modders open. Hopefully we will give everybody a date soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarfaceSAS Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Here you go Stalker_Zero. I'll just post the close up of the personal camo suit. But I have to edit it a little bit, but that shouldn't take long. You guys probably have tons of weapons, but if you need any of these you can use them. The m60e3 and the sig550 i made today so I need to test them more. I have about 10 other weapons so if you need some more i can send a list. The guns are colt car A3(i think),HK sr9TC, Romanian AK-74, shorty m60e3, and sig 550 Anyways I make the changes to the ghillie suit soon. Good luck with the mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 Excellent Scarface! Yes, please keep in touch with us. We are (at least I hope we are) having a conference saturday. I figure about 5 o'clock eastern time. My msn messenger email is olternat@hotmail.com . You can find my account that way so we can talk. And thanks for the weapons offer. As soon as we all talk we can find out the situation on the weapons issue and if we have enough or what. Alot of modders would like some favorite weapons from earlier mods. I would at least like one.......the sd m4 sopmod from the official gunslinger mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 24, 2003 Share Posted January 24, 2003 (edited) List in progress: (Weapons represented as of 6:00 EST Jan 24) All weapon in bold represent updates to the list. Please if you see your weapon on this list that you have promised then email your files to Jepetto at: jepetto@attackforcez.com Sniper Rifles: 1) NTW2O 20mm AMR 2) Walther WA2000 3) AR10T Lothar Walther 4) AR15 Heavy Barrel 5) M25 carlos hatchcock "White Feather" 6) KAC SR-25 7) Steyr ACR 8) M82 (Silenced coded as GL) Assault (Includes Tactical/Special Purpose) 1) Stoner SR 15/16 Tactical 2) SPAS12 Shotgun 3) M96SD 4) AR10 (Sudaneese Original) 5) Steyr TMP 6) Beretta M12 7) Cobray 12ga. 8) Colt M4 AN/PVS4 9) Colt M-4 SUREFIRE 10) Colt M4 11) Daewoo K1A1 12) Diemaco CQB 13) Diemaco CQB/Desert 14) FAMAE SAF 15) FAMAE MINI SAF 16) FN P-90 17) FN F2000 18) Galil 5.56 AR 19) Galil 7.62 AR 20) H&K MP5 21) H&K MP5 22) H&K MP5 SD 23) H&K Model 32 24) H&K Model 53 25) H&K G36 26) H&K G36c 27) H&K G36k 28) KAC SR-47 29) OA-93 30) Sig 552 31) ZM LR-300 32) Stoner M96 33) Tromix Jackhammer 34) Valmet M82 35) Steyr AUG SD Squad Automatic Weapons (Support) 1) MK46 Mod 0 2) RPK 3) Degtyarov LMG 4) FN 40mm G/L Sidarms (Pistols, etc.) 1) S&W Stealth Hunter 44 Magnum 2) Taurus .480 Ruger 3) Glock 23 5) Ruger Super BlackHawk Hunter 44 Magnum 6) Walther P99 7) .50 Caliber Desert Eagle Long Barrel w/scope 8) STI 9mm Custom long barrel with c-more sight And here are listed again the weapons cobra6 has promised to donate.................. AI L96A1 Beretta M12 Cobray 12ga. Colt M4 AN/PVS4 Colt M-4 SUREFIRE Colt M4 Daewoo K1A1 Degtyarov LMG Diemaco CQB Diemaco CQB/Desert FAMAE SAF FAMAE MINI SAF FN P-90 FN F2000 FN 40mm G/L Galil 5.56 AR Galil 7.62 AR H&K MP5 H&K MP5 H&K MP5 SD H&K Model 32 H&K Model 53 H&K G36 H&K G36c H&K G36k KAC SR-47 KAC SR-25 KAC SR-16 OA-93 Sig 552 Steyr ACR Steyr AUG SD Steyr TMP Stoner M96 Stoner M96 SD S&W Stealth Hunter Taurus .480 Ruger Tromix Jackhammer Valmet M82 Walther WA2000 ZM LR-300 cobra6 said..."After I clean up the mod I will send it to you this weekend. Enjoy everyone To date we have not gotten all the weapons promised. Please, if you recognize your contribution on these lists then please send the material so we can give the forum a proper update on the weapon list. Again, email your material to Jepetto at: jepetto@attackforcez.com Thank You. Edited January 25, 2003 by Stalker_Zero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300Mag Posted January 24, 2003 Author Share Posted January 24, 2003 (edited) Stalker, I have two shotguns to add to the mod. Mossberg 590 Military with M9 Bayonet mounted SPAS12 I have the all of the DTD input. I will get it to Jepetto asap. 24 hours max. I've been looking at performance characteristics, but can forward any suggestions after he gets it. Not a problem. The DTD guys did a great job. Thanks very much. Performance characterisitcs are among the best I've seen in any mod. Stalker, I will be on UBI at around 9:30 EST tonight. I got your page, but was AFK all day. Laptop was up. Later all. Edited January 24, 2003 by 300Mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTDWardenMac Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Stalker, Cobra sent me the version he is going to donate. Hes been offline for a few days. He should be back on anytime. Look for the weps soon my friend (in the next day or so) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTDWardenMac Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 I didnt see 300's post, lol. Glad ya like it 300 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Commando Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 The DTD guys did a great job. Thanks very much. Performance characterisitcs are among the best I've seen in any mod. Have the DTD guys ever done anything to the contrary? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Cool Everyone! I won't be hosting till around after 10pm eastern. Look for me then. Thanks for the weapons donations guys. I had shadow2k1 make me a sound for the m23 socom that cobra6 modeled. I will forward it to jepetto when I get a chance. Progress! Progress! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTDWardenMac Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Let me know if anything needs to be changed on the socom stalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTDWardenMac Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 Thanks 300 and SC, Cobra gets all the credit on that. He does all of the files and all (or most) of the textures along with coco and I do the models and a few textures. He is a madman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grail Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 (edited) They call themself the DTD PRO MOD team for a reason Anything they do sets new standards AFAIC. Edited January 25, 2003 by Grail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Commando Posted January 25, 2003 Share Posted January 25, 2003 They call themself the DTD PRO MOD team for a reason Anything they do sets new standards AFAIC. My sentiments exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcinko Posted January 26, 2003 Share Posted January 26, 2003 I know you guys are busy gatherin weapon models and what not, but if u havent thought about it, dvs1 released some new rets, mybe you guys could work something out. Just a thought, keep up the good wrok gentlmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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