ematsui Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 What can I say, the game never did take off, most ive seen online is about 3 to 400 and thats Euro time, primetime weekends for North America and I see about 200 people. Our clan never rented a server for this game (we were looking into it) because 90 percent of the servers sit empty. Its sad really because I like this game alot and the matching potential was there. But with GRIN under-delivering on the MP side (8 maps - that were all remade (360 version) none the less). The game never got off the ground and one can get sick of the same map over and over. What about some news about add-ons, downloadable content, new maps.. etc.. Not gonna happen, Ubi doensnt do that I dunno, just frustrated that I pumped more money into the PC deathhole we call Ubi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightspeed Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 dude give it a month and you will see a plethera of new gametypes, maps, new coop and missions. this game is well-moddable and the mods are coming. as for laddering - im backing the Total Random Respawns to begin a new generation of MP GR gaming. there are still a heap of clans playing [GR] TRR today - if they knew that they could play TRR on a new engine I think they would jump across in a flash. patience.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 What can I say, the game never did take off, most ive seen online is about 3 to 400 and thats Euro time, primetime weekends for North America and I see about 200 people. Our clan never rented a server for this game (we were looking into it) because 90 percent of the servers sit empty. Its sad really because I like this game alot and the matching potential was there. But with GRIN under-delivering on the MP side (8 maps - that were all remade (360 version) none the less). The game never got off the ground and one can get sick of the same map over and over. What about some news about add-ons, downloadable content, new maps.. etc.. Not gonna happen, Ubi doensnt do that I dunno, just frustrated that I pumped more money into the PC deathhole we call Ubi Your asking in the wrong place, try online in the games. Here you'll only get the polarised replies of those that are pushing forward with what they got and those that are looking for the replacement. It' is sad, because it does for the first time look good on the battlefield, just the content is very thin & the editor is no better than GRAW1. Release 12th July 1 1/2 months later ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Medic+~SPARTA~ Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I think that GRAW1 really made a very bad impression on most people and those same people are the ones who refuse to buy AW2. Why shell out 50 bucks for the second iteration in a series you didnt like in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huddex Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 8 or is it 9 maps who doesn't all run all gamemodes is not a good start. I will never understand why nUBI/GRiN don't include the sp maps as mp maps. One of the stronger sides of [GR] were the fact that all maps were open in MP. Then this "If you don't like what we included in the game there is a editor you can do your own maps" is frankly crap in my opinion. In my opinion i shouldn't have to do the developers job when it comes to content and as a clan player that likes to compete i know that most MP competitors does not want to compete on usermade maps at all we prefer stock maps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDA_OPTIMUSPRIME Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) HEY GIVE GRIN A CHANCE! You think it's bad AHHH you don't know how bad it can get, go play bf2/2142/ and soon to be crysis, and try EA support/PB support! Then you will learn! At least you can ask GRIN a question about the game here. You could get this!!!PunkBuster at it's best! OR EA SUPPORT AT ITS BEST Or here's a noble IDEA let them work on the next patch and go from their. If you're so stuck in the past about [GR] then go play [GR] that simple! Hate to be a A**HOLE but the game's not even a YEAR old some of you asking about GRAW 3 . Graw 2 is not a bad game yes the MP side needs some closer urban maps and some bugs worked on but what game comes out perfect now a days? Also GRIN needs to step up and address thier ANTI CHEAT system, hopefully the modding community can provide us with some new guns and maps for match play time will tell. Edited August 27, 2007 by WDA_OPTIMUSPRIME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huddex Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 HEY GIVE GRIN A CHANCE! You think it's bad AHHH you don't know how bad it can get, go play bf2/2142/ and soon to be crysis, and try EA support/PB support! Then you will learn! At least you can ask GRIN a question about the game here. You could get this!!!PunkBuster at it's best! OR EA SUPPORT AT ITS BEST Or here's a noble IDEA let them work on the next patch and go from their. If you're so stuck in the past about [GR] then go play [GR] that simple! Hate to be a A**HOLE but the game's not even a YEAR old some of you asking about GRAW 3 . Graw 2 is not a bad game yes the MP side needs some closer urban maps and some bugs worked on but what game comes out perfect now a days? Also GRIN needs to step up and address thier ANTI CHEAT system, hopefully the modding community can provide us with some new guns and maps for match play time will tell. I honestly don't give a ******* <--- insert free cursing here about you and or your hate for PB and you need to bash pb as many times as you can in a sentence. And when it comes to [GR], why does people have to reinvent the weel time and time again, whatever GRiN or you say this is a sequel to [GR] and it should not have less features than the game this game originates from? And give GRiN a chance? i think i have given GRiN alot more than a chance and i will propably give them more chances than this but that don't include shuting up when i think something is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kretzj Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The core game is okay... a few annoying bugs still are there... but the CONTENT is painfully slow in coming. And I'm afraid I have an issue justifying $29 for a mission pack from Ubi after spending $50 for GRAW2 and $50 for the mess called GRAW1. They're making DLC for the Xbox360 available for free these days... if they do that for GRAW2 then I will be summarily impressed and I will say so (and I will download and continue playing). Pay for Content at this point, would be a deal-breaker for me. The only way GRAW2 will remain on my system another 4 weeks is if the modders TRULY come out with some stunning work. Otherwise, I'm afraid when I blow away my current WinXP install and re-image next month I will probably forgo the re-installation. That doesn't mean I won't come back and check in... I went for 9 months without [GR] installed way back in the early days but when I came back and saw the missions, campaigns, etc. I pulled out the discs. Lastly, I checked out online play last night.... plenty of servers... most with 0, 1 or 2 players. Painful. -John K Callsign threepoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The core game is okay... a few annoying bugs still are there... but the CONTENT is painfully slow in coming. And I'm afraid I have an issue justifying $29 for a mission pack from Ubi after spending $50 for GRAW2 and $50 for the mess called GRAW1. They're making DLC for the Xbox360 available for free these days... if they do that for GRAW2 then I will be summarily impressed and I will say so (and I will download and continue playing). Pay for Content at this point, would be a deal-breaker for me. The only way GRAW2 will remain on my system another 4 weeks is if the modders TRULY come out with some stunning work. Otherwise, I'm afraid when I blow away my current WinXP install and re-image next month I will probably forgo the re-installation. That doesn't mean I won't come back and check in... I went for 9 months without [GR] installed way back in the early days but when I came back and saw the missions, campaigns, etc. I pulled out the discs. Lastly, I checked out online play last night.... plenty of servers... most with 0, 1 or 2 players. Painful. -John K Callsign threepoint Just as a note.. although xbox content is sometimes free... it reallly isn't. Remember you pay for the live service and also your isp. Would you pay monthly for your pc (besides your isp) if every few months you got free content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
th33f. Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 just a quick opinion here... i know that a lot of people will turn away from the MP side of the game after trying to compete in public servers. there are a couple of things that might irritate the players new to the game, more so if they never got any practice with the original GRAW. one problem that still exists is hardware config/settings. medium to high video settings hold up quite well in SP, even with an average GPU. a few stutters here and there, but the AI opponents are not that difficult to manage really. once you get to a full server though, you become somewhat like a slow blind sheep with those higher resolutions, end up getting owned in every firefight, not being able to even shoot straight, and eventually hating the experience. personally, with my C2D, 2 Gigs of RAM, SATA drives in RAID 0 and an x1800 Mobility, i play in 800x600 with absolutely everything turned down to a minimum and only get 30-40 FPS in a full server. with only a couple of dozen people it gets better, but i'm still considering an upgrade to the x1900. nobody likes losing to simply a faster shot. it makes you hate the game, when it's really the player... another unfortunate aspect of public online gaming is, of course, the inevitable spawn rape, developing quite often on GRAW2 maps. the_cut is just brutal to the lower side. naturally, team stacking doesn't help, and with so few servers running larger games there's nowhere else to go really. being on the losing side is quite annoying, and trying to catch up with the veterans(of GRAW as well) is boring. one more thing... i believe there should've been a couple smaller maps for MP, something with no place to hide, helping people get familiarized with drawing a rifle and the rest of the basics. tactics isn't everything in this game, at least they don't play as much a part as they did in GR, which is a shame. i still enjoy the action though. people just need to adapt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDA_OPTIMUSPRIME Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I honestly don't give a ******* <--- insert free cursing here about you and or your hate for PB and you need to bash pb as many times as you can in a sentence. And when it comes to [GR], why does people have to reinvent the weel time and time again, whatever GRiN or you say this is a sequel to [GR] and it should not have less features than the game this game originates from? And give GRiN a chance? i think i have given GRiN alot more than a chance and i will propably give them more chances than this but that don't include shuting up when i think something is wrong. I honestly don't care if you want to cry, whine, complain, or gripe since you want to get personal, if it's so bad go to control panal and uninstall the program The only intense bashing, extreme aversion, or hostility that I see spewing is yours alone, and how you derived at anyone tell you to shut up is absurdity ridiculous! I was trying to show how the other side of the coin works, but your malice's discontent for GRAW 2 by far surpasses my QUOTE hatred for PB. Squel to what GHOST RECON 2 on xbox was the first squel, then GRAW and now GRAW2 again maybe you should wait and see what others can mod up or add to it before you start loathing about it. Seeing the game was released around 7/17/07 ... WOW As for having less features maybe someone from GRIN could answer that if you PM them! Before you start ranting about how great it was way back when, or you could install and go play [GR] which would suit you fine I'd bet! Please continue your idiotic psychobabble! You've already indicated your opinion/disposition for GRAW 2. The fact that you had to retort in a retaliatory way I found it to be humorous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Agreed that EA's customer service blows. PB I wouldn't know much about, except that I've never had a single problem with it in AA. Bottom line- folks who can look past the GR name, ignore the GRAW abortion and take this game as a totally new title seem to like it. Those of us still wondering what happened to the gameplay from [GR] generally don't like it. That's where the line's drawn. We don't like each other's opinions of it all the time, but should probably at least be respectful of the fact that opinions opposed to our own will be presented in this forum. It's all Ubi's fault... =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kretzj Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The core game is okay... a few annoying bugs still are there... but the CONTENT is painfully slow in coming. And I'm afraid I have an issue justifying $29 for a mission pack from Ubi after spending $50 for GRAW2 and $50 for the mess called GRAW1. They're making DLC for the Xbox360 available for free these days... if they do that for GRAW2 then I will be summarily impressed and I will say so (and I will download and continue playing). Pay for Content at this point, would be a deal-breaker for me. The only way GRAW2 will remain on my system another 4 weeks is if the modders TRULY come out with some stunning work. Otherwise, I'm afraid when I blow away my current WinXP install and re-image next month I will probably forgo the re-installation. That doesn't mean I won't come back and check in... I went for 9 months without [GR] installed way back in the early days but when I came back and saw the missions, campaigns, etc. I pulled out the discs. Lastly, I checked out online play last night.... plenty of servers... most with 0, 1 or 2 players. Painful. -John K Callsign threepoint Just as a note.. although xbox content is sometimes free... it reallly isn't. Remember you pay for the live service and also your isp. Would you pay monthly for your pc (besides your isp) if every few months you got free content? Apparently I would if Ubi is looking to charge for the Expansion Pack, right? There's a reason I don't play XBox Live games... and my ISP is paid by my company so that's not part of my equation. -John K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Everyone needs to chill out lest I have to lock this thread. All someone has done is ask if GRAW 2 for the PC starting to die in essence. From what I am reading, on public servers, it may very well have, for clans, it may very well still be alive. There are 2 sides to the coin, and everyone sees it their own way and as long as they aren't vile about it, can state as such here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 trying to be positive here but, if they'd made maps that were used for SP and MP, they could cut map development time and the number of maps woule have been more. but hey, no matter. we have the game.. let the mods begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=|KI|=MonK Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 we have the game.. let the mods begin! My first one is out! Already working on another...... http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=46562 d/l, install, enjoy....... I'll have it up on our server "KI.KillingField" later tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutlink Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 There are some people working on a little more ambitious projects in this game than there were in GRAW 1, but there are fewer mods. I highly recommend people visit the modding forum to see what's all available. Just because it's not in the downloads section doesn't mean it's not fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=|KI|=MonK Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 There are some people working on a little more ambitious projects in this game than there were in GRAW 1, but there are fewer mods. I highly recommend people visit the modding forum to see what's all available. Just because it's not in the downloads section doesn't mean it's not fun! All of my REALLY ambitious (time-consuming....hehe) modding is being done in ArmA (Operation Flashpoint 1.5 ) I'm an OFP-modder from the glory-days, and have to say the modding/editing in something like OFP/ArmA is a dream-come-true compared to GRAW. This is not to say that I don't appreciate the AMBITIOUS modding for GRAW done by you (Nutlink) and others. I'm really looking forward to someone else (hehe ) creating some amazing Maps/Mods for in-depth COOP-play. I'll lend a hand in the more simplistic MP-play arena! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDA_OPTIMUSPRIME Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 we have the game.. let the mods begin! My first one is out! Already working on another...... http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=46562 d/l, install, enjoy....... I'll have it up on our server "KI.KillingField" later tonight LOL pistols only we playing on docks??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=|KI|=MonK Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 LOL pistols only we playing on docks??? Top of the dam only! the exits are blocked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 ,,, if they'd made maps that were used for SP and MP, they could cut map development time and the number of maps would have been more. I think this is a lesson all devs could use. By using the same maps for all game modes, gamers could get more bang for their buck as more maps could be made. If needed, larger maps could be resized so PvP or TvT games can be made faster if need be for deathmath games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ematsui Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Welp... the PS3 and 360 GRAW 2 versions are sitting pretty with 33 unique MP maps... we have ........................ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDA_OPTIMUSPRIME Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Welp... the PS3 and 360 GRAW 2 versions are sitting pretty with 33 unique MP maps... we have ........................ 8 Well when it's not being played in a month because halo3.543 comes out or madden 0.04885 well still be here. To bad PC players can't fight the console players, of course we'd have to slow our pc's way down! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikSnoopy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I love the game, I just wish more people would tuck it out and play it, rather than sit here and ###### about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Welp... the PS3 and 360 GRAW 2 versions are sitting pretty with 33 unique MP maps... we have ........................ 8 But how many can modder's make? 1000's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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