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hi guys,

at the moment im using a amd 3700+ singlecore-cpu. as you can see in my signature i own a x1800xt512 and 2gb of ram. generally im not completely satisfied with the performance of my system while playing graw2.

thing is, i dont want to upgrade my whole system. only the cpu because i think that thats the bottleneck of the system. i recall that i heard, that graw2 scales with the cpu-speed more than other games. true?

the fastest 939-cpu i can stick onto my msi k8 neo4-board is an opteron 180. i'd like to know if anybody has experiences in upgrading from single- to dual-core cpus and if the fps-increase is worth the money. maybe some of you upgraded from amd64-cpus to x2-cpus or opterons?

any help would be greatly appreciated! thanks in advance...

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thx for your replys. i know, that i *should* see a difference in performance.

like i said i want to upgrade from 3700+ with a real speed of 2200mhz to an opteron 180 with 2x2200mhz. i assume that the fps will not be doubled by this upgrade. but how big is the performance-increase? i.e. 180euros for only 5fps performance-gain would be not worth the effort and money imho....

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Ok, I have a somewhat similar problem. I went from a AMD 4000+ 2.4 ghz to a AMD 4400+ X2 with 2.2 ghz. I overclocked it to 2.5ghz. Now my video card, a Leadtek 7600GT with 256 MB vidRam, has SLOWED down! When I do a stress test (from the "nTune") my FRAPS went from 60 to 31! I have tried everything I know to find out why my card dropped 50% in FRAPS butnothing seems to help.

I have Vista Home premium, the 4400+, 2GB (1Gig sticks) of Corsair Value RAM, clocked at 430, 250 GB WD 7200rpm HD and a Sound Blaster Audigy 24bit sound card.

Prior to installing the 4400+ X2, my video card was working great. GRAW and GRAW2 ran well. Now it is very choppy and slow. Any ideas?

BTW, I took the side window off my case, disconnected the fan from the side window and connected the Video card directly to the power source. Oh, and the power source is a 500W PS (not sure 0f the vendor). Might I need a higher wattage PS? :unsure:

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I run a socket478 Pentium 4 3.4 Extreme Edition- with an AGP ATI X1950Pro--- I find that I cannot run the highest settings in game-- but I can still play well and enjoy it fine. I am considering upgrading in the next few months to a dual or quad core system-- we'll wait and see how the prices fluctuate with the Penryn and Barcelona releases coming soon..

Asus P4P800e-deluxe

P4 EE 3.4 ( 3570 mhz )

2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR400

HIS X1950pro IceQ Turbo

320 GB Maxtor SATA

Ok, I have a somewhat similar problem. I went from a AMD 4000+ 2.4 ghz to a AMD 4400+ X2 with 2.2 ghz. I overclocked it to 2.5ghz. Now my video card, a Leadtek 7600GT with 256 MB vidRam, has SLOWED down! When I do a stress test (from the "nTune") my FRAPS went from 60 to 31! I have tried everything I know to find out why my card dropped 50% in FRAPS butnothing seems to help.

I have Vista Home premium, the 4400+, 2GB (1Gig sticks) of Corsair Value RAM, clocked at 430, 250 GB WD 7200rpm HD and a Sound Blaster Audigy 24bit sound card.

Prior to installing the 4400+ X2, my video card was working great. GRAW and GRAW2 ran well. Now it is very choppy and slow. Any ideas?

BTW, I took the side window off my case, disconnected the fan from the side window and connected the Video card directly to the power source. Oh, and the power source is a 500W PS (not sure 0f the vendor). Might I need a higher wattage PS? :unsure:

I would look at your running processes-- trim them down some using MSCONFIG- also check your drivers ( Graphics/Chipset/Bios etc--) make sure that those are up do date.

Also-- since you are overclocked-- put things back to stock-- see what happens.

A 7600 is not a "fast" card whatsoever-- it will be taxed trying to run GRAW2.

When I run my X1950Pro Fraps recording-- my fps goes from 40-50 to 18-20 or so.. I consider that normal myself.

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Ok, I have a somewhat similar problem. I went from a AMD 4000+ 2.4 ghz to a AMD 4400+ X2 with 2.2 ghz. I overclocked it to 2.5ghz. Now my video card, a Leadtek 7600GT with 256 MB vidRam, has SLOWED down! When I do a stress test (from the "nTune") my FRAPS went from 60 to 31! I have tried everything I know to find out why my card dropped 50% in FRAPS butnothing seems to help.

I have Vista Home premium, the 4400+, 2GB (1Gig sticks) of Corsair Value RAM, clocked at 430, 250 GB WD 7200rpm HD and a Sound Blaster Audigy 24bit sound card.

Prior to installing the 4400+ X2, my video card was working great. GRAW and GRAW2 ran well. Now it is very choppy and slow. Any ideas?

BTW, I took the side window off my case, disconnected the fan from the side window and connected the Video card directly to the power source. Oh, and the power source is a 500W PS (not sure 0f the vendor). Might I need a higher wattage PS? :unsure:

Did you install the drivers for the x2??

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...1_13118,00.html

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Ok, I have a somewhat similar problem. I went from a AMD 4000+ 2.4 ghz to a AMD 4400+ X2 with 2.2 ghz. I overclocked it to 2.5ghz. Now my video card, a Leadtek 7600GT with 256 MB vidRam, has SLOWED down! When I do a stress test (from the "nTune") my FRAPS went from 60 to 31! I have tried everything I know to find out why my card dropped 50% in FRAPS butnothing seems to help.

I have Vista Home premium, the 4400+, 2GB (1Gig sticks) of Corsair Value RAM, clocked at 430, 250 GB WD 7200rpm HD and a Sound Blaster Audigy 24bit sound card.

Prior to installing the 4400+ X2, my video card was working great. GRAW and GRAW2 ran well. Now it is very choppy and slow. Any ideas?

BTW, I took the side window off my case, disconnected the fan from the side window and connected the Video card directly to the power source. Oh, and the power source is a 500W PS (not sure 0f the vendor). Might I need a higher wattage PS? :unsure:

Did you install the drivers for the x2?? Checked to make sure and yes I have downloaded them. Did the "misconfig" thing and still really bad FRAPs!

I did some searching and I believe, after reading some of the forums for nVidia cards(especially the 7600 GT) that I need a new power supply.

Since I will be building a new system within the nest 3 months, I guess I can start with a new PSU...probably 650 to 800W and "SLI" cetified, since the new computer will be PCIe and AMD (hopefully with the new "Phenom" processor.

Thanks for the help.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...1_13118,00.html

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Just received an e-mail from Leadtek. They tested the A7600GT with the 4400+ X2 and said they had no problem with the card. They even used a 500W PSU. Now, after looking at the PSU, I discovered it was a very "Cheap" 500W PSU!.

So, as I said above, time for a new PSU. :(

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well heres my 0.02 cents, cpu wont REALLY make a difference BUT perhaps buy a better vid card, and maybe a new cpu for instance i played bf2 with a REEEEALLY old vid card and upgraded with a 7600 GT and there was a huge difference, so try that out

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well heres my 0.02 cents, cpu wont REALLY make a difference BUT perhaps buy a better vid card, and maybe a new cpu for instance i played bf2 with a REEEEALLY old vid card and upgraded with a 7600 GT and there was a huge difference, so try that out

honestly, bf2 isnt that big hardware-killer anymore. i can play that w/o probs on my lappy. imo graw2 may should gain more in performance than some other shooters would, which rely more on powerful vid-cards. hence the original post....

lets wait for bioshock and maybe THATS the new killer-game concerning hardware like i.e. f.e.a.r before it....or even swat4. :shifty:

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Ok, I have a somewhat similar problem. I went from a AMD 4000+ 2.4 ghz to a AMD 4400+ X2 with 2.2 ghz. I overclocked it to 2.5ghz. Now my video card, a Leadtek 7600GT with 256 MB vidRam, has SLOWED down! When I do a stress test (from the "nTune") my FRAPS went from 60 to 31! I have tried everything I know to find out why my card dropped 50% in FRAPS butnothing seems to help.

I have Vista Home premium, the 4400+, 2GB (1Gig sticks) of Corsair Value RAM, clocked at 430, 250 GB WD 7200rpm HD and a Sound Blaster Audigy 24bit sound card.

Prior to installing the 4400+ X2, my video card was working great. GRAW and GRAW2 ran well. Now it is very choppy and slow. Any ideas?

BTW, I took the side window off my case, disconnected the fan from the side window and connected the Video card directly to the power source. Oh, and the power source is a 500W PS (not sure 0f the vendor). Might I need a higher wattage PS? :unsure:

Found out it was the CPU...sot of...Actually, it is the motherboard. Not enouhg power to run the CPU and the video card. Went back to the "old" cpu after installing a new PSU and evrything works fine. Guess a 2 year old mobo doesn't do it for GRAW 2 and "newer" video cards. The mobo is a Gigabyte KN8-939 . The problem is it does not have the extra power connector for X2 CPUs. Am upgrading to a better board with PCI-e SLI slots, but still with the 939 socket, so I won't have to a "complete" rebuild.

Did you install the drivers for the x2?? Checked to make sure and yes I have downloaded them. Did the "misconfig" thing and still really bad FRAPs!

I did some searching and I believe, after reading some of the forums for nVidia cards(especially the 7600 GT) that I need a new power supply.

Since I will be building a new system within the nest 3 months, I guess I can start with a new PSU...probably 650 to 800W and "SLI" cetified, since the new computer will be PCIe and AMD (hopefully with the new "Phenom" processor.

Thanks for the help.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/Techni...1_13118,00.html

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