bullslink Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Okay, so in GRAW 2, we have a whole bunch of different guns, like the M416 or RX4, and each one of them have certain values underneath the different stats like impact, stability, length, etc. Now, my question is this: many of the guns have EXACTLY the same stats in every category. Like the M416 and RX4. So is there a difference between the abilities of these guns, or are they just different models for basically the same thing? What implications do length of the gun and the velocity (and caliber) of the bullets have in the game (not in real life, in the game)? Are these values included just to please the die-hard gun lover? What's your favourite gun setup for the 2 main situations that exist in the game: wide, open spaces and "closed/packed" spaces; and why is the said gun your favourite for the situation in question? Does your choice for a gun change depending on whether you're playing MP or SP? What about a secondary weapon, do you ever equip one unless you're a sniper? Why or why not? What weapons do you generally equip on your AI teammates? Which AI team members do you usually select to accompany you? Does your selection change depending on the situation at hand, on who you like, or do you just go with the default teammates set for different missions? I'm interested in reading your guys' responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I have a basic kit which I usually field with. Scar-H, Aimpoint, silencer MP5SD Frags Predator I'm usually a semi-marksman, semi-demo guy. On large maps in SP (like mission10) I take the MSG90 + silencer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgazmO Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I take a RX4 with optics and can with a MP5SD. I dont care what the team takes since I never use them for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 What's a predator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 What's a predator? Zeus MPAR FGM-172A/B SRAW or Predator SRAW is its real name (originally known as SRAW MK 40 MOD 0). You want more names for it? In the 360 version it's called Zeus T2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 What's a predator? The Zeus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottman Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 My favorite kit is the AMP DSR-1 with an MP-7. Oh, that's right those aren't in the game. The world's best 2 weapons! We need more Guns GRIN/Modders. Please start with these. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullslink Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 (edited) But why do you guys choose these guns? The impact? The accuracy? What? And what about the guns with stats that are exactly the same? Are they just the same thing with different models, or do they have totally different characteristics? Also, why do you use the silencer Wolfsong? Edited July 17, 2007 by bullslink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Also, why do you use the silencer Wolfsong? I like to stay of the radar... GO RECON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmic Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Give me a Scar L with silencer, scope and GL everytime, just love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 And what about the guns with stats that are exactly the same? Are they just the same thing with different models, or do they have totally different characteristics? They do have some differences as they use different animations. Reload speed as well as recoil in the different stances are built into the animations. But it would be minimal difference for weapons like the Rx4 and M416. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz314 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 And what about the guns with stats that are exactly the same? Are they just the same thing with different models, or do they have totally different characteristics? They do have some differences as they use different animations. Reload speed as well as recoil in the different stances are built into the animations. But it would be minimal difference for weapons like the Rx4 and M416. It feels like the 416 has a much better stability than the Rx4 - or is that just me? I played the multiplayer demo A LOT and I really really hated the Rx4 due to the tunnel vision and the narrow scope angle, so maybe I'm still kinda biased against this gun The 416 feels a lot better, it just feels "right" the way the SCAR-L did in GRAW 1. Is it true that you guys downgraded the SCAR-L somewhat b/c it was so powerful in GRAW 1 (great stability, long range etc...) Also, could you GRIN guys please post the weapon statistics you have implemented? I loved that in GRAW 1..... BTT: in open environments, I use the MSG a lot - just nothing beats a semiautomatic sniper rifle. The MP5 is ok for the close work, but the way I play, I'll sneak up to the guy and nail him with a silenced pistol, so I very seldom use the MP5 at all. The MP8 - na, I just don't like the look of it In cramped spaces/CQB, it's the HK416 for me (hehe, German engineering!) - it feels more stable than the Beretta and looks way better. Plus I feel that its accuracy for long range shots is slightly superior. If I had to pick one weapon, it would be the 416. Very versatile, perfect for the sniper/assault mix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I played the multiplayer demo A LOT and I really really hated the Rx4 due to the tunnel vision and the narrow scope angle, so maybe I'm still kinda biased against this gun That has changed as seen in the SP Demo for instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz314 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 (edited) I played the multiplayer demo A LOT and I really really hated the Rx4 due to the tunnel vision and the narrow scope angle, so maybe I'm still kinda biased against this gun That has changed as seen in the SP Demo for instance. Yeah, a good thing! I don't really like this gun, the 416 feels better. It packs more of a punch, it seems. Can you post the weapon stats you used to define the individual weapons here? Just wanna see if my impression is right... Edited July 17, 2007 by Buzz314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Mission campaign I have a basic kit M14, silencer MP5-SD Frags Smoke Zeus No side arm. I'm usually full in or full out play. Multiplayer it's the map terrain & mission that dictates, alone with my team of friends Normally SCAR but I'm flexible and can handle most except the chain support stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{B:P:R}Joker Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 m99 sniper all the way (ret lock inc) why is there no m32 in the mp??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Mission campaign I have a basic kit M14, silencer MP5-SD Frags Smoke Zeus Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirap Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 (edited) SCAR-L+Aimpoint+GL MP5SD Nades for non-stealth missions M416+Aimpoint+Silencer M9 Nades ZEUS for stealthy missions M14+Scope+Silencer MP5SD ZEUS for long-range missions I usually pack the squad with the M14 if I don't carry it and one MK46 on non-stealthy missions. Otherwise its usally M416 or SCAR-H with GL Edited July 17, 2007 by Cirap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullslink Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share Posted July 18, 2007 And what about teammates, who do you generally select to come along with you? What guns and mods do you give your AI teammates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philkilla Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 I'm a diehard fan of the M416. Although the RX4 is very handy for semi-sniping duties. When things get ugly I usually just go for the .50 and reprise the roll I'm meant to play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainman2k Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 in graw2 i normally use: m416 + scope + aimpoint + front grip mp5sd + aimpoint tried the rx4, too. normally i'm playing on single-shot. imo the rx4 is less powerful and more inaccurate than the m416, especially with that triangle-aimpoint... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spm1138 Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 (edited) The RX4 has the nicest scope and reticule I think. The model itself looks silly though. I like the 416. It looks mean and businesslike. Proper intimidating. Is there any reason to give most of your guys SMGs? I just whack suppressors on their rifles and save the weight for missiles unless I am bringing an MG. The MGL seems to be a waste of space most missions. The fire rate is pants. A rifle with a UGL seems just as much use in the hands of an AI. Edited July 18, 2007 by spm1138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmic Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Ok, if the Scar L isn't available i'll take the 416 but it must have a scope! Iron site shooting is crude and isn't as accurate or fast to get on target. The scope's magnification is a great advantage too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainman2k Posted July 18, 2007 Share Posted July 18, 2007 Is there any reason to give most of your guys SMGs? I just whack suppressors on their rifles and save the weight for missiles unless I am bringing an MG. in some of the missions i nearly went out of ammo. a secondary weapon comes in handy in that situation. plus i use the mp5sd in cqb-like environments on full-auto/burst when target-distances are short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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