chilly-willy Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 You want to make a difference? Do you think all of us are really a community? If so, let's band together buy stock and complain to invenstor relations. INVESTORS AND SHAREHOLDERS RELATIONS The Investor Relations team is at your service to inform you and answer all your requests regarding the Company and its stock. Ubisoft Entertainement 28 rue Armand Carrel 93100 Montreuil sous Bois France Investors Relations Tel : +33 (0) 1 48 18 50 00 Fax : +33 (0) 1 48 18 52 82 Email : ir@ubisoft.fr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrgazmO Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Ill be over in europe in a few weeks. Maybe I should show up and drop a duece on someones desk there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeagol77 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'm all for dissing on Ubi and everything, but with all respect to you, I think you're kind of missing the point. Buying stock will do nothing but help Ubi to continue to do what they're doing now. It's not like you're going to be able to buy a massive chunk of the company so that they'll actually listen to you or anything (unless you and some others on this forum are multi-millionaires or something and plan to purchase a controlling stake in the company, in which case you will be Ubisoft and the rest of us get to hate you instead). Public companies exist, ultimately, to maximise returns to their shareholders. It's pretty clear to everyone except those deluding themselves, these days, that PC-gaming is not the revenue-raiser than the console-gaming market is. We just need to write-off Ubi forever, as far as PC-gaming is concerned, and start hoping other publishers will develop some tactical PC-centric shooters, like back in the good old days where it all began... I'm not trying to bag anyone here, just pointing out that unfortunately, your idea isn't going to get us anywhere. Don't give Ubisoft any more of your hard-earned money than you already have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly-willy Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) I'm all for dissing on Ubi and everything, but with all respect to you, I think you're kind of missing the point. Buying stock will do nothing but help Ubi to continue to do what they're doing now. It's not like you're going to be able to buy a massive chunk of the company so that they'll actually listen to you or anything (unless you and some others on this forum are multi-millionaires or something and plan to purchase a controlling stake in the company, in which case you will be Ubisoft and the rest of us get to hate you instead). Public companies exist, ultimately, to maximise returns to their shareholders. It's pretty clear to everyone except those deluding themselves, these days, that PC-gaming is not the revenue-raiser than the console-gaming market is. We just need to write-off Ubi forever, as far as PC-gaming is concerned, and start hoping other publishers will develop some tactical PC-centric shooters, like back in the good old days where it all began... I'm not trying to bag anyone here, just pointing out that unfortunately, your idea isn't going to get us anywhere. Don't give Ubisoft any more of your hard-earned money than you already have! I hear what you're saying but I know companies take stock holder opinion seriously. I'm not talking some hollywood style take over the company fantasy here. I am saying if a few hundred or hopefully thousand stock holders call investor relations with the same compalint the company will respond. Edited July 14, 2007 by chilly-willy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung-Fu Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Haha, well that's quite a length to run to stick it to Ubi But correct me if I'm wrong, if you go to a shareholder meeting and say "Dude, stop killing Tom Clancy games" they'll pretty much just have a six-figure financial analyst (who doesn't know jack about games) explain why Ubi is making the right moves financially. But heck, 56.30 a share... buy a couple grand worth of shares and show up at a stockholder meeting with your grievance. At the very least, you'll get on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Ledanek Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Haha, well that's quite a length to run to stick it to Ubi But correct me if I'm wrong, if you go to a shareholder meeting and say "Dude, stop killing Tom Clancy games" they'll pretty much just have a six-figure financial analyst (who doesn't know jack about games) explain why Ubi is making the right moves financially. But heck, 56.30 a share... buy a couple grand worth of shares and show up at a stockholder meeting with your grievance. At the very least, you'll get on YouTube. Unfortunately KF is correct. I'd voiced my opinion during a Southwest Airline public meeting in Chicago about moving on with the peanuts and come up with another snack, and a 3-piece suit stood up and came with a 15-min presentation on how the peanuts and SWA has become a "staple/symbol" and would take another million in marketing to come up with another catchy tune and snack. I still maintain my stock with SWA since I fly with them. Massive boycott may be the only means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaG_Belial Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'm all with that, But at the end of the day, no matter how you color it, spice it up and make it look flashy a turd is still a turd. For far too long UBI have been delivering fat smelly ones on a PC near you. I would welcome some jumped up financial analyst try and worm his way out of the basic business mistakes UBI are currently making. I have heard all the arguments about Console gaming being more profitable and so on and that supporting a game costs this much and the rest of that tat. Some fundamental business rules are being completely ignored by UBI and in the end that’s up to both shareholders and customers to point that out 1) Customer retention can only be gained through customer satisfaction 2) Selling to an existing customer base is easier, less expensive and more profitable than selling to an open market 3) Concentrating and delivering excellence in your chosen core market fields provides opportunity for expansion, expansion at the cost of your core business delivers business disaster. 4) If profit margins are high in a certain area, you can bet everyone is trying to exploit the market, more business players means less market share, rapid depreciation in product shelf life, higher marketing and development costs. 5) Niche markets are more profitable UBI needs to take a long hard look at the massive demand in PC FPS Gaming and decide to either address that demand and deliver what is required, or give up. If they take a look at the reasons they bought Redstorm in the first place and what was delivered in [GR] they should understand why it was successful and why they wanted to buy it. [GR] was supported with patches for a very long time, [GR] released expansion packs. As well as being a lot more profitable than creating a whole new game, this ensured longevity of the product and brand name. Basic business sense is give the people what they want, milk it for what it’s worth and keep giving the people what they want. The current trend of develop a turd, spend a fortune marketing a turd, then send the turd to the bargain bucket in less than 3 months, is a cycle no business in any market can sustain. My guess is someone at the top is already thinking on this, and a lot of customer and shareholder pointing in the right direction could do nothing but help. Buy the shares and let them know, or just let them know as a customer, if enough of you shout in the right direction at the right people, they will listen. Start at the top, because s hit always rolls downhill. I have posted the board of directors UBI France email addresses in another thread. May I suggest this could be a good starting point. PS Sorry about the enflamed language, but I think the expletives where very relevant. Regards Belial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Massive boycott may be the only means. Boycott Rayman? They did announce plans for a PC version of End War didn't they...maybe we should play that card. Some fundamental business rules are being completely ignored by UBI Agreed. I would have inserted "and intentionally"...it's hard to believe that all of this nonsense is going on without the top tier knowing about, but why there is no corrective action is even more unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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