Cangaroo.TNT Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I know Grinners have been posting, so the ban has been ipso facto lifted, but can an admin confirm that the gag order is OFFICIALLY lifted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrester Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 I am quite active on this and on the ghostrecon.com forums, as a true GR/GRAW fan I try to help people, straighetn up flaming posts about UBI and try to help people find solutions to their problems. Since UBI support doesn't answer calls! The fact that GRIN reads these forums better than the UBI equivalent speaks a lot for them, constructive discussions are most common here, and it is clear that GRIN got a lot of Ideas to better the games from these forums. I do understand that company policies can be jeaopardised by enthusiast GRIN developers showing more than alowed, but I cannot remember any post that has been taken back because of too much info, on the other hand, GRIN has a good standing in posting just enough to keep our attention, and keep buying their/UBI's game. Yhough it hurts me to say this, but I hope GRIn will find another publisher to sell a "sequell"of GRAW to, maybe they can coöperate with Blackfoot..... (oops) Well thus far my word, I say HAIL GRIN and hmm UBI think again please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTF-2 Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 -edit- Way to go Rocky! The prompt action caught some people off guard it looks like. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 14, 2007 Author Share Posted July 14, 2007 I know Grinners have been posting, so the ban has been ipso facto lifted, but can an admin confirm that the gag order is OFFICIALLY lifted? It is lifted, so we can save the French jokes and full on assualt for another time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCSeMPeRFi Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) And what about the news of this '4 week patch limit'? What can they really fix in 4 weeks? What about AC support? Still alot of questions need answers before I run out and buy this for MP. Edited July 14, 2007 by RLCSeMPeRFi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huddex Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 And what about the news of this '4 week patch limit'? What can they really fix in 4 weeks? What about AC support? Still alot of questions need answers before I run out and buy this for MP. I agree, i didn´t buy this game just to get a new RS: Vegas fiasco. Suport the games you make and stand by them since they reflect what you are. Show that you are a grade A publisher and not some nickle and dime POS company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaG_Belial Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 OK ban lifted, lets hold off on the emails On a plus point, the game rocks on muliplayer (full) Its just like [GR] but better So I have stopped whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tecmic Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 The 'distance' that UBI appear to maintain from their customers surely does nothing to promote brand loyalty. To further aggrevate that by making such ill advised decisions can only mean one or two things. A) After GRAW2 hits the shelves UBI do not want to invest further in the product by long term support! B) They do not see the PC lasting for too much longer in it's present form! C) They don't consider that the genre has the potential to support a successful third Graw! I must admit, it's difficult to visualise what the theme for a third GRAW would be without it becoming just another sci-fi game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogdow Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) [GR] brought me into the world of online gaming at the age of 43, now some years following [GR] we finally have what looks like a brilliant game as a follow on from [GR] we have people getting political, for what its worth i think GRAW2 has what it takes to be a world beater, BUT there has to be communication between the community and the developer, if this is gagged, the game will die, just like everything else ubi have tried so far as a replacement to [GR], what do you guys think? I personally am gutted DoW Bulldog (Thedogsofwar.com) [Merged with the existing thread] Edited July 14, 2007 by Pave Low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCo Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Gag order is lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogdow Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Gag order is lifted. Just had a look cant find where it says anything about lifted !!! , would you mind posting a link? thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCo Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Gag order is lifted. Just had a look cant find where it says anything about lifted !!! , would you mind posting a link? thx See Rocky's post 7 posts up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 Gag order is lifted. Just had a look cant find where it says anything about lifted !!! , would you mind posting a link? thx Does nobody read the news page anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frag Maniac Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 (edited) I am on my second disk from the shop and it still wont installNice to hear Grin is not actually bound and gagged in their basements! Tech I have suspected ever since purchasing GRAW1 and especially since installing the GRAW2 demo Belial that something is strange about the GRAW installer. Both GRAW1 and the GRAW2 demo would not defrag after installing without a 3rd party defrag tool (O&O) and a very time comsuming double defrag. None of the other 60+ titles I own have this problem. Direct, concise explanations of these kind of tech problems without unecessary discourse is vital to keeping us informed as to why such things happen. Hopefully Grin will now remain ungagged. Personal overview I know it is not likely common that a publisher thinks or cares much about those insisting on waiting for confirmation a title will work well and/or be patched proprerly, but the fact is it's common for some customers to wait until they see a price that matches what they've seen/heard regarding the state of the product at the time they decide to buy it. Despite the many preorders and volume of sales, the fact is if you were to take away the many purchases that are made after proper patching is done, most of these top selling publishers would be seriously hurting. Edited July 15, 2007 by Frag Maniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viiiper Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Gag order is lifted. Just had a look cant find where it says anything about lifted !!! , would you mind posting a link? thx Does nobody read the news page anymore? I for one do not, unless I'm stuck in a hotel, overnight for a job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petsfed Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 UPDATE The word on the street, as they say, is that things are about to turn around So, get down the store, buy the game (unless you are in the US ), post up what needs fixed and start enjoying it - I know I am! Day late and a dollar short. This whole stupid thing is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'll buy GRAW2 because of GRIN. And I'm still not gonna buy another UBI product after that. Without customers, the stock still fails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_Jacket Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I bought GRAW2 on Saturday, it’s great! If you just liked GRAW1, you’re going to love this. As for Ubisoft………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Pesto 4 UBI president! errr... ya, ok tired going to bed. VOTE PESTO! I second this nomination! Even if Pesto is now resident of a DICE household, as I recall... Glad the gag was lifted, but the fact that it was ever emplaced at all is, as Metal_Jacket pointed out, sad. Within reason, of course. I don't expect a publisher to let their developer talk to the community in unofficial forums about any old thing, especially specifics of what's coming down the pipe. Got it. But GRIN's interaction with THIS forum has long been a wholly positive thing. It has led to the resolution of many a problem that made it past in-house QA and play testing. It was likely (though I can't verify this) a major influence on more than one game mode in GRAW. GRIN is a developer that likes to listen to US, and that is an example the publisher would be well-served to follow. Unlike with GRAW, I don't have a reserved/preordered copy of GRAW2. I still haven't even decided to buy it. And it's entirely because of Ubisoft's involvement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliebrownau Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Ubisoft seems to be yet another dispointment as a company to the same lines of EA Games Pushing out sequal after sequal , focusing on graphics over game play , consoles before PC games and each game being buggy without proper standalone dedicated server software for games that DOES NOT NEED A COPY of the retail game period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 Gag order lifted: Good. Nice to see common sense prevail. I'm still rather miffed at Ubisoft for their treatment of Rocky and GR.net. GRAW2 wouldn't be half the game it is (so I've heard, haven't tried it myself yet) without this forum and its interaction with the developers. I think an official apology from Ubi is warranted. It would also prove those calling Ubi "arrogant Frenchies" wrong. Respectfully krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepdoc-iBeta Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 I think an official apology from Ubi is warranted. It would also prove those calling Ubi "arrogant Frenchies" wrong. Respectfully krise madsen Are you familiar withthe expression "Pushing your luck"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) I think an official apology from Ubi is warranted. It would also prove those calling Ubi "arrogant Frenchies" wrong. Respectfully krise madsen Are you familiar withthe expression "Pushing your luck"? Well, wrong in this particular case then... Besides, if Ubi doesn't apologize, they'll be proven right Respectfully krise madsen Edited July 16, 2007 by krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted July 16, 2007 Share Posted July 16, 2007 (edited) deleted Edited July 17, 2007 by GregP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brok21k Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 So the Gag order has been lifted. That doesn't mean UBI hasn't restricted GRIN's responses. Maybe they have been told to respond to general chat (to prove the gag is lifted) but not to specific topics, so the flak is taken of UBI. E.I. "Please don't mention the war!". Or am I being a bit to suspicious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aracnid Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 (edited) Edited August 2, 2007 by Aracnid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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