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GRAW and GRAW 2 seem to go along with the trend that UBI has been following with the high tech weaponry and technology games. I welcome some of it but what some people loved about the first GR, the extra long draw distances for example has been lost and replaced by close quarter’s type of thing.

I don't know if some of you remember joint-ops. It looked really promising but it ended up falling short. GRAW on the 360 has become popular due to its instant action style of gameplay which kids loved whereas GRAW didn’t get as many people as it should have. I think the crosscom and all the new gadgets take away from the old style GR which has driven some adult gamers away from it. I'm still trying to figure out what kind of population is being targeted with graw for the pc but it sure isn't men 40+.

As of now I’m confused about how to feel towards UBI over the fact that I built a machine just because I wanted to play graw. Redstorm did a good job until it got sucked it by UBI and UBI changed as well. These companies became mainstream and butchered their ideals in order to make more money.

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I looked at armed assault by bohemia which from what i read is a small Czech developer just like Redstorm was back in the day. These guys made a game that they would want to play not that would be a quick buck like the countless video games that get released at the same time as a movie does such as Hulk or Fantastic 4. I'm curious to know what you guys think about it. Are there any aspects of it that you would like to see in graw?

Heres some media.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748793/vids_1.html

I've been a GR fan for 4 years. I'm not trying to start a flamewar

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GRAW and GRAW 2 seem to go along with the trend that UBI has been following with the high tech weaponry and technology games. I welcome some of it but what some people loved about the first GR, the extra long draw distances for example has been lost and replaced by close quarter’s type of thing.

I don't know if some of you remember joint-ops. It looked really promising but it ended up falling short. GRAW on the 360 has become popular due to its instant action style of gameplay which kids loved whereas GRAW didn’t get as many people as it should have. I think the crosscom and all the new gadgets take away from the old style GR which has driven some adult gamers away from it. I'm still trying to figure out what kind of population is being targeted with graw for the pc but it sure isn't men 40+.

As of now I’m confused about how to feel towards UBI over the fact that I built a machine just because I wanted to play graw. Redstorm did a good job until it got sucked it by UBI and UBI changed as well. These companies became mainstream and butchered their ideals in order to make more money.

Anyway,

I looked at armed assault by bohemia which from what i read is a small Czech developer just like Redstorm was back in the day. These guys made a game that they would want to play not that would be a quick buck like the countless video games that get released at the same time as a movie does such as Hulk or Fantastic 4. I'm curious to know what you guys think about it. Are there any aspects of it that you would like to see in graw?

Heres some media.

http://media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748793/vids_1.html

I've been a GR fan for 4 years. I'm not trying to start a flamewar

Well I was an Operation flashpoint player for a long time.A great game indeed with open potentail for mods and creating your own mission and so forth.But the game became out dated graphics and all.When I heard about armed assault I was looking forward to the release.Well I downloaded the demo and was pretty much disappointed .The game graphics had very little or practically no improvements from the original.with exception of a few added menu tweaks and so forth it is pretty much operation flashpoint with a few tweaks.but that is it .I felt it was'nt worht spending any money on the full version when I have a copy of operation flashpoint already.

That is my 2 cents worth.I love playing GRAW .overall idea game modes weapons ,grahics are excellent.you do need a decent machine to run the game A bit of downfall but seems to be the way all games are going these days.

I played [Ghost Recon] a lot but was'nt a real hardcore ghost recon fan.But with GRAW and GRAW2 coming out soon I hope lol.I love playing this style of game and enjoy it quite alot.

I do agree they are only trying to make as much money as they can.But when it comes to ORG and GRAW at least there was considerable enhancemnets all round IE Graphics ,Game play, Weapons and so forth.As far as Armed Assault that was a total plan to rake as much money as they can.There was very little enhancement to game,graphics and so forth compared to OPeration Flashpoint in my opinion.

Dalmantus

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These companies became mainstream and butchered their ideals in order to make more money.
If that's true, then how come Ubisoft's annual report was (reportedly) dripping in red ink? I understand your points and they are well made, but please stop bashing profit-motive. Bohemia may love Armed Assault, but they're doing it to make money, too.

Ditto on not starting a flame war.

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OFP and it's derivatives (like ArmA) are a certain style of tactical military simulations. GR1 is a different style of tactical military simulation.

I personally like GR1 over the the style of OFP and ArmA. IMO, there hasn't been another game since GR1 that captured the same style I like.

There's been lots of discussion about ArmA here at GR.net.

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