unwritt3n Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I did a search and did not find any posts about this. Sorry if there is one. What kind of weapons are we going to be able to use in GRAW 2? I know the 360 version is now using the new RX range, I'm pretty sure they are RX's in the PC screenies. I have also seen the XM8 too in screenies. Is the Scar family still there? Is there another sniper rifle other then the M99 or what ever it was. Would love to see the SR AS50, the .50 counter-snipe rifle Pistols? Attachments? Different scopes on the same weapon? eg, can Scar-L have either Aimpoint, reflex, ACOG? etc. Other submachine guns? other then the MP5 and XM8 compact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WytchDokta Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I don't care what weapons we get to field in GRAW 2 - as long as I get my plasma gun, flamethrower, particle beam weapon and electro-magnetic railgun. WytchDokta, tu prend la tête? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDealer71 Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 I don't care what weapons we get to field in GRAW 2 - as long as I get my plasma gun, flamethrower, particle beam weapon and electro-magnetic railgun. WytchDokta, tu prend la tête? LOL Plasma Gun. Quake can give you the plasma gun, or Unreal. For Graw 2 how about the M16 family. Just a decent selection will do. Death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scope Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Tbh I wouldn't mind having a similar selection of weapons to what we had before, the SCAR's etc. However you MUST include stuff like M4's, M16's, AK's etc. And have more than one sniper rifle PLEASE! Bolt action rifles are just not suited to an urban setting. Gimmie the SR25 back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Beretta MX4 is the only new PC weapon addition that Ubi have referred to so far, and if it is a direct carryover from the 360 then we'll see a new caliber (6.8SPC) as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutlink Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 It would be rather lame to add only one new weapon in a sequel, but as long as the gameplay is solid then I'll have no problems with only 1 new rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I really don't know what to think about GRAW2. That Beretta PX Storm whaddayacallit rifle has me scared. I really don't see what relevance it has to GRAW (other than it's "new"). Particularly as the exact same result could be acheived by adding a new scope to the SCAR-L. Since adding weapons to GRAW is apparently a very tricky and time-consuming process, I can't help feel that something like the Storm is a waste of effort that could have been put to much better use elsewhere. I know that many [GR] fans were less than thrilled about the "Advanced Warfighter" theme and the fancy future gadgets. Not me. To me, that kinda stuff is like porn. When I first heard of GRAW, images of weapons-mounted cameras, airbursting munitions and thermal weapon sights danced before my eyes. I foresaw playing with unmanned land vechiles, from small PacBots to 6 ton armed robotic vechiles and having the sun blocked by swarms of UAV's of all sorts. Suffice to say, GRAW wasn't quite what I had hoped for in that respect. Respectfully krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I really don't know what to think about GRAW2. That Beretta PX Storm whaddayacallit rifle has me scared. I really don't see what relevance it has to GRAW (other than it's "new"). Particularly as the exact same result could be acheived by adding a new scope to the SCAR-L. Since adding weapons to GRAW is apparently a very tricky and time-consuming process, I can't help feel that something like the Storm is a waste of effort that could have been put to much better use elsewhere. The RX4 is apparently UBI's new poster weapon for GRAW2. Like the MR-C was for GRAW. Check the official artwork for both games and you'll notice a pattern. So I don't think GRiN had much option on adding that particular weapon or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 I really don't know what to think about GRAW2. That Beretta PX Storm whaddayacallit rifle has me scared. I really don't see what relevance it has to GRAW (other than it's "new"). Particularly as the exact same result could be acheived by adding a new scope to the SCAR-L. Since adding weapons to GRAW is apparently a very tricky and time-consuming process, I can't help feel that something like the Storm is a waste of effort that could have been put to much better use elsewhere. The RX4 is apparently UBI's new poster weapon for GRAW2. Like the MR-C was for GRAW. Check the official artwork for both games and you'll notice a pattern. So I don't think GRiN had much option on adding that particular weapon or not. I'm sure you're right about that, and I wasn't aiming my comment particularly at GRiN. All I'm saying is that I'm worried about GRAW2, that's all. Respectfully krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoQuarter Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Nouredine Abboud: We also have new guns, such as the MX4, which is more accurate and is lighter than other similar guns, plus it's very close to the latest weaponry you would find on the battleground. There's also the Mule, which is a support vehicle that bring news weapons such as grenades onto the battlefield, and can also be used by the Ghosts as cover. Of course, you can always pick up weapons mid-mission, but the Mule offers another way to re-supply and change tactics.http://pc.ign.com/articles/764/764975p1.html This line still has me wondering whether it was just a poor choice of words or if the code has been broadened to allow hasty weapon pickup. Going further out on the limb, the silhouette of the weapon "coming soon" on Ubi's GR:AW2 site suggests that maybe, just maybe GRIN have completed the FP versions of the G36, PSG1, etc. already ingame. After all, if they are adding the ability to use the stationary support weapons in :AW2, as has been referenced to, why should the OPFORs personal weapons remain off-limits? When I first heard of GRAW, images of weapons-mounted cameras, airbursting munitions and thermal weapon sights danced before my eyes.You are not alone. I had the same dream. But that is what you get for knowing what the Land Warriors system include and more telling, for taking at face value Ubi/Grins advertising/splashscreens. Par for the course. Regardless, even though there hasn't been the slightest hint at them, I'm still holding out hope for a set of binoculars. Oh, and world peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFella Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Going further out on the limb, the silhouette of the weapon "coming soon" on Ubi's GR:AW2 site suggests that maybe, just maybe GRIN have completed the FP versions of the G36, PSG1, etc. already ingame. Looking at that silouette it's no G36 that was part of the original GR:AW mate, that is an MG36. So far the only new weapons I've seen used by ghosts in PC sceenshots seems to be the Beretta RX4 and a standard MP5. Dude on the left is packing that MP5 Same weapon different screen Said MP5 would of been real easy to get ingame for GRIN as all the animations already would be there from the MP5SD, heck I even thought about using them for an MP5 and HK53 if I were to revisit the M4 mod. So I'd say we can expect to get the same weapons that we had in GR:AW along with atleast 2 new, most likely more than just 2 for one simple reason. Krise madsen made a comment about weapons being tricky and time consuming to add into the game, that would only really be true for us modders who don't have the tools at hand that GRIN does. They already have all the IK setups to create new animations and have full understanding of the .xml setups needed for new weapons...so in other words it would be a snap to make! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Krise madsen made a comment about weapons being tricky and time consuming to add into the game, that would only really be true for us modders who don't have the tools at hand that GRIN does. They already have all the IK setups to create new animations and have full understanding of the .xml setups needed for new weapons...so in other words it would be a snap to make! In that case, they should seriously consider adding a whole bunch of weapons. It's not just a question of "gimmegimmegimme!", it's business. Providing GRAW2 isn't a huge improvement on GRAW1 in every aspect (and while I do belive it will be better, I don't expect the basics to change much), they need something to make the game attractive. Respectfully krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIN_Wolfsong Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Dude on the left is packing that MP5 Same weapon different screen Both links are for the same screen and none shows an MP5 that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFella Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Now that's just weird...somehow IGN's links must be somewhat messed up. It should be 2 of the screenshots that got put up there December 14th, showing a medic with an MP5. This any better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sui317 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 are you sure that is PC ?? this one is with the medic and i think it is a atrist impression for XB360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 are you sure that is PC ?? this one is with the medic and i think it is a atrist impression for XB360 But both versions should have the same weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sui317 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 i did not know that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFella Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Can't say I'm sure if it's PC or 360, but IGN has it among their PC screenshots. And Hockeystick, what's there that say's both versions should have the same loadout? Just as with GR:AW it isn't a port so there's no guarantees at all you will get the same toys in the PC version as in the 360 version. With the difference in view system I'm fairly sure the 360 weapons ain't high enough in detail to work as 1st person models in the PC version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Just assuming that they should have the same weapons since they share the same title They don't share everything of course, we already knew that, but I'm not sure if GRIN are the ones who desides which weapons should be in the game. It's understanding if they don't have time to add a weapon that's in the 360 version. But I would assume that both versions have the same list of weapons that should be in the game. Then, if they have time, they can probably add a weapon that's not on the list. Just like GRAW Both versions have SCAR-L/H, XM8, MR-C (or Mr. C which I like to call it) etc. etc. etc. However in the PC version you can have the MP5 as secondary weapon, which you can't in the 360 version. Can someone confirm if the MP5 exist at all in the 360 version or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krise madsen Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I'd say there is a 99% chance the MP5 is in the 360 version. Respectfully krise madsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbrad1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 If they do a lot of changes in weapons, it would be hard for me to believe that this is "just after" GRAW's story line for SP. I don't believe that the US Government would be able to issue many "new" weapons that fast. Now, if they had the M-4, M-16A2 and such, then maybe, it would be believable. However, never being in Special Forces, I don't know what their "arsenal" might contain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFella Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 However, never being in Special Forces, I don't know what their "arsenal" might contain. Just about anything under the sun I'd imagine, it's not just a matter of what weaponry they deploy with on a regular basis they would also have numerous OPFOR and other BLUEFOR weapons in their arsenal. Merely to boost their familiarity with those weapons, you just never know when you need to render that odd looking hunk of junk you just captured safe. So....back to the "what will be in" debate. *I could almost bet money on the fact that we will see an MP5 in GR:AW2 PC, just for the simple fact that GRIN already had 95% of the weapon made in GR:AW. The only new things they would have to make is a new foreend for the MP5SD from GR:AW and have Desmond put together some new sounds. *And knowing that GRIN dev's have been coming here since day one and seen all the dummy spits and whinging about the lack of an M4 and a sniper rifle other than the M99 I'd assume (alright to assume makes an ass out of you and me but that I can live with) that we'll see an M4 or similar aswell as a selfloading 5.56 or 7.62mm sniperrifle or marksmanrifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwgfghost Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I dunno. The RX4 looks like a nice rifle. Actually doesn't look all futuristic like the M8. Well That's all I can really add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_ASP Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I dont like the new plastic weapons from Beretta. C/R/PX-4 and 90-two. I'd much rather they stick to proven weapons that have already seen action and less "sci-fi" when adding new weapons. MK23, UMP45, G36-series, PSG-1, Barret M107, M240B, M249, M416 and G3A3 are my favs in addition to the current weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 (edited) truth be told that the XM8 bombed bcz the fore handguard kept melting or getting soft after alot of firing. no plastics just metal plz Edited February 24, 2007 by Papa6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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