Rocky Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 GRAW 2 - New GameInformer Mag - No mention of PC Version Should that surprise us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Now I'm officially scared... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kretzj Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 GRAW 2 - New GameInformer Mag - No mention of PC Version Should that surprise us? Rocky, You moving my original post and starting this... I think that means you have WAY too much time on your hands. Here's a link to my original post... I had some details that I think could be relevant to our PC conversation as well. http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40453 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etf-danno Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I think the lack of PC development being mentioned is no big deal... Red Storm didn't develop the PC version of GRAW, so why would they be talking about about the PC version of GRAW2? It was a console mag interview for a console game from the console game developer... I wouldn't freak just yet. I'm just happy there is more talk about GRAW2 at all... the PC version talk is sure to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 i think rabbi made a good medic statement once something in the line to stop bleeding and some small improvement over being untreated Someone of some measurable credibility quoted me in a positive (relatively) context?!?!?! How did THAT happen?! SUPPOSING there might be a 360 to PC port in our future (well, y'all's anyhow) of the abortion that is clearly underway as GRAW2, I agree that the 'unlimited healing' capabilities of the MEDIC class will only fuel the argument that it does not belong. I mean, what a trick! Unlimited amounts of clotting agents and bandages and splints and IV tubes and lactated ringers?! Someone's gotta teach me that trick! Wait, I know... he has to study his healing spells at least 2 hours per day to memorize them, and might have to pay up to 2 silver pieces for a small vial of bat's blood or something... This, in and of itself, isn't so shocking. We should have seen it coming after GR2. And we more or less HAVE seen it on the horizon since GRAW. But what truly disturbs me is that RSE is gonna develop such filth. What's next? Brown tossing generic Bag-O-Ammo's at Kirkland so he can continue spawnraping tanks as they appear, while Allen sets a ring of Claymores around the enemy's airfield? Gee, that sounds a tad familiar... Such acrade trash isn't worthy of the name, Tom Clancy on its cover. If this is the kind of unrealistic crap I wanted to play, I'd still be playing BF2 or DooM3. Had most of your body blown to bits? No problem, here's a MEDKIT! You'll be INSTANTLY better! And the console kiddies will eat it up like so many Tootsie Rolls the day after Halloween... Until the next something better comes along... Sick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kretzj Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 GRAW 2 - New GameInformer Mag - No mention of PC Version Should that surprise us? I honestly don't know what to think about this. 1) IF there is to be a PC version, I'm guessing it will go to GRiN since this is a mega-expansion to GRAW, not a new product. It would make sense to have GRiN do the work since they wrote the code. In fact, could GRiN be testing code right now (remember the test servers with new versions we haven't seen yet in patches?) 1a) The whole GRiN topic brings baggage, which I will leave for others to post on. 2) Could GRiN be working on GRAW 2, thus their unusual "quiet" of late? Could be. 3) Could GRiN NOT be working on GRAW 2, thus their unusual "quiet" of late? Could be as well. The article was based on a visit with Ubi and Red Storm, so naturally they're going to talk about console versions. This could simply mean the PC version was "off limits" anyway, given the hosts. At the end of the day, this s all we DO know: 1) GRAW 2 is NOT a new product. Think GRAW Mega expansion. In fact, a $50 sticker price (for PC, $60 for X360, PS3) on GRAW 2 could indeed anger me unless there is a LOT more "new" than what the article is showing 2) GRAW 2 continues with the sci-fi future direction, not a return to a tactical shooter. Those on the forum that loved [GR] but disliked GRAW will probably not be happy. 3) The likelihood that the graphics for GRAW 2 will require even more hardware. The article talks about smoke effects that use true particle physics and "dynamic weather effects" to determine wind... and the wind will blow the smoke particles in different directions. This tells me "hardware baby... " On the PC we have to hope GRiN / Company X optimizes the existing Diesel engine... otherwise our brand new vid cards might already be hurting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_ASP Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I sincerely hope GRIN is working on GRAW2. After I removed all of the arcade-elements in the HUD and some weapon corrections I think GRAW is the best in the series. I think GRAW-PC is the best "largescale cqb". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikSnoopy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I wouldn't buy it if there was a GRAW2 for PC. All GRAW 1 did was make me frusterated to the point of tears. (Re: Bad netcode, obnoxious bugs, ectra) I really wish I was able to enjoy the game, I guess I'm just too hardcore of a gamer to be able to enjoy something that was executed so poorly. That being said, I hope they do a good job with GRAW2 for the X360. They got good sales on the first GRAW for the X360. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Here's a truth of a truth; GRAW isn't even fixed or complete. There appears to be a patch up coming...IS THERE? I'm having serious doubts. with that being said, GRAW is an incomplete mess and a resource hog. Plus GRAW has sunk! But GRIN/UBISOFT left our butts in the GRAW boat and have gone off to develop perhaps a GRAW2? gimme a freakin' break! Abandon GRAW and go produce some more crapware! GREAT IDEA!, Grin seems only able to muster extra content and unable to "fix" GRAW so i hardly think they'll get GRAW2 right. and if they add this medic crap, watch out the next thing that might happen is Electronic arts whose part owner of UBISOFT might shove Call of Duty crap into the GR franchise...yuck!(my opinion) I will wait for a Demo to appear(if there will be one) and play it to death before I even have a thought about my money going for the retail. nothing worse then all of us having bought into GRAW only to be burned because we wanted to be one of the first to say we have it. That just means we were the first to get bent over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAZZA Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 UBI haven't got a clue have they - users, especially PC users can see straight through these guys by trying to steal Battlefield's attributes with GRAW's look and feel! GRAW is fine as is - they just need to sort out the stability issues and then build from there with mappacks like Snow, Jungle and Desert maps - it would clean up! But UBI will go chasing mummy and daddy's money won't they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 UBISHAFT. nothing, absolutely nothing is worse than UBISOFT. fine by me..they don't want my money. I'm sure the makers of Armed assault will want my quid. besides, they seem to have made a brilliant game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCO*AFZ* Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 UBISHAFT. nothing, absolutely nothing is worse than UBISOFT. fine by me..they don't want my money. I'm sure the makers of Armed assault will want my quid. besides, they seem to have made a brilliant game. If you like a game that has a 3rd person view Now back on topic As for medic's. In the pc version the only way i would not mind it is as Rabbi had said for small injuries. Like if you are injured, you will slowly bleed out until your bud wraps you. But if you do it. Add a blood trail also. One game that comes to mind with the gore factor is an old favorite Soldier of Fortune where body parts could be taken off with shotguns lol. Medical packs and healers are more for rpg's where they drink potions and heal each other... aka majic and spirits. Not for military type games. If we wanted that we would play doom 3 which has a medical station every so often to replenish you. UBI and Redstorm should note... GR1 had an arcade mode. (took more bullets for kills, you were faster and the weapons were more accurate) No server i know used this on purpose. It didn't take off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikSnoopy Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 As for medic's. In the pc version the only way i would not mind it is as Rabbi had said for small injuries. Like if you are injured, you will slowly bleed out until your bud wraps you. But if you do it. Add a blood trail also. One game that comes to mind with the gore factor is an old favorite Soldier of Fortune where body parts could be taken off with shotguns lol. There was a Total Conversion/Mod for Quake III, called Urban Terror. In Urban Terror, you had the option (need, really) to bandage your wounds when you've been shot. You wouldn't regain health (not enough to matter), but you would stop the bleeding, that would eventually kill you if you let it. Also, if you were shot in the groin with a specific weapon, you were nearly dead to the point where you couldn't bandage fast enough, and so would die from bleeding anyways. It was a great mod, too bad there wern't really servers or playerbase for it. Honestly, I think it was alittle ahead of it's time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFilter Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 http://www.gameinformer.com/Magazine/Insid...A-F260921D6C82} Here's a few screens for the GRAW 2 (360) showing off the new lighting system where the light changes within the mission. Pretty nice stuff. There is also going to be weather effects where the rain leaves puddles in other words there will be real time lighting and weather effects according to the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 like we've said a jillion times before, graphics mean ###### if there's no quality gameplay. so I see rain droplets hit a puddle..so freaking what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFilter Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 like we've said a jillion times before, graphics mean ###### if there's no quality gameplay. so I see rain droplets hit a puddle..so freaking what. Huh? I was just sharing some screens and news buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 first that site requires a subscription, so no screens to be seen in that regard. but i am not criticizing you, what i said was, no matter how neat the graphics are, if the gameplay sucks, the pretty look is just candy wrapping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Beer, guys. As in, have one. It's on me. Friends here, right? True, though, I couldn't look at it either without a subscription. And yeah, Papa, I know what you meant, but you DID come off a little harsh. Now that we're all pals again..... There seems at least an outside chance this thing will make it to PC. I'm all about Papa6's idea from another thread that we all go back to what we know works- [GR]- and let UbiShaft think on what they've done wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRP 56 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 like we've said a jillion times before, graphics mean ###### if there's no quality gameplay. so I see rain droplets hit a puddle..so freaking what. Slick graphics do tend to lure the sheep to the slaughter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Baaaaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ^LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZJJ Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Baaaaa. Rocky, wrong code. Don't you mean...? :sheep: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Dang it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchillo* Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 1.- AW2 for around mid. 2007 2.- You guys better upgrade "again" your systems = windows vista etc. etc etc. 3.- New bugs 4 new fans = same crap and more . That's it ..dont ask were I get info . ok....... can't say no more about this = no saying enjoy DA Process . Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAbbi_74 Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 I would say this justifies the Alienware laptop @$3,300.00US or so, but then again I've already refused to purchase anything else UbiShaft-published. It would figure though. They'd produce a version of the game for 64-bit/Vista ONLY, just to enjoy the mutual (relative) exclusivity. THAT will surely be the death of the tactical shooter. Final Coffin Nail, as it were. I must be having a rough month... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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