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I am actually considering buying one, have an x1900xt 512MB that has to go in for repairs and I could probably just put some (More like a lot.) of money in between. Or I could just hold out until the ATI cards come and and then buy the best card and hope that my x1900xt card survives until that.

What I really wanted to now if is anyone tired it with GRAW and did AA work? My x1900 card is not liking GRAW very much at 1680x1050 by the way, it screams and cries so I run it at a lower setting, same with FEAR, FEAR actually works but I had to turn down a lot of settings so it was better to just drop the resolution.

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I am actually considering buying one, have an x1900xt 512MB that has to go in for repairs and I could probably just put some (More like a lot.) of money in between. Or I could just hold out until the ATI cards come and and then buy the best card and hope that my x1900xt card survives until that.

What I really wanted to now if is anyone tired it with GRAW and did AA work? My x1900 card is not liking GRAW very much at 1680x1050 by the way, it screams and cries so I run it at a lower setting, same with FEAR, FEAR actually works but I had to turn down a lot of settings so it was better to just drop the resolution.

My monitor is the bottleneck, my x1900xt is virtually loitering around in the chassi.

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

So what kind of settings do you use? For me it feels kind of amazing with 50-60 fps on one single 7900gtx after checking around a little, and also noting the horrible performance of my card at 1680x1050.

Edit: Turned of shadows, textures medium, post processing low, and some other settings lowered, now it is actually playable at 1680x1050. But had to turn down a lot of settings, 30-60 most of the time now.

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

So what kind of settings do you use? For me it feels kind of amazing with 50-60 fps on one single 7900gtx after checking around a little, and also noting the horrible performance of my card at 1680x1050.

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Everything on high except post effects, those are on medium. I hate the way high post effects looks with night vision, not to mention things get a little TOO blurry from a distance.

I thought you said you had a 1900XTX, not a XT, so I was thinking your performance was a little low. Knowing it's an XT now, your performance seems about right. What CPU do you have? Before when I had a Athlon 64 3200+, my FPS was around 35-45. When I upped my CPU to a dual core 4800 X2, that's when my FPS shot up a good 10-15 frames.

Edit: My system specs are as follows:

EVGA 7900GTX cooled w/ Accelero X1 (ViewSonic VX2025WM 20.1" monitor)

4x512GB Dual Channel DDR400 Corsair ValueSelect RAM

Athlon X2 4800+ Processor cooled w/ Zalman 9500

2x74GB 10,000RPM Raptors in RAID 0

EVGA nForce 4 SLI Mainboard

Creative XtremeMusic 7.1

OCZ 700 watt PSU

It's a fairly decent rig that hasn't had problems running most games on high settings at the WS resolution (1680x1050).

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Everything on high except post effects, those are on medium. I hate the way high post effects looks with night vision, not to mention things get a little TOO blurry from a distance.

I thought you said you had a 1900XTX, not a XT, so I was thinking your performance was a little low. Knowing it's an XT now, your performance seems about right. What CPU do you have? Before when I had a Athlon 64 3200+, my FPS was around 35-45. When I upped my CPU to a dual core 4800 X2, that's when my FPS shot up a good 10-15 frames.

Edit: My system specs are as follows:

EVGA 7900GTX cooled w/ Accelero X1 (ViewSonic VX2025WM 20.1" monitor)

4x512GB Dual Channel DDR400 Corsair ValueSelect RAM

Athlon X2 4800+ Processor cooled w/ Zalman 9500

2x74GB 10,000RPM Raptors in RAID 0

EVGA nForce 4 SLI Mainboard

Creative XtremeMusic 7.1

OCZ 700 watt PSU

It's a fairly decent rig that hasn't had problems running most games on high settings at the WS resolution (1680x1050).

E6600@3400Mhz

2GB of ram

x1900xt@675/792 512MB

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correct me if i'm wrong. But i'm pretty sure that even with that card you still will not be able to use anti-aliasing. Now nvidia has made HDR work with AA, which is something ATI has had for a while. What you will notice is that you would be able to run GR:AW at a much higher resolution with in turn would take some jaggedness away and make it look better. But GR:AW still runs using deferred lighting(i think it was called) and so it will never be able to use AA. Unless they develop hardware that can do that.

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correct me if i'm wrong. But i'm pretty sure that even with that card you still will not be able to use anti-aliasing. Now nvidia has made HDR work with AA, which is something ATI has had for a while. What you will notice is that you would be able to run GR:AW at a much higher resolution with in turn would take some jaggedness away and make it look better. But GR:AW still runs using deferred lighting(i think it was called) and so it will never be able to use AA. Unless they develop hardware that can do that.

Nvidia was able to do HDR+AA anyways, except in SM3.0. ATi the same, but also questioned it when it couldn't do AA+HDR in SM3.0 as well. The 8800GTX was able to perform HDR+AA out of the box without having to use an additional patch like the Chuck pach.

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correct me if i'm wrong. But i'm pretty sure that even with that card you still will not be able to use anti-aliasing. Now nvidia has made HDR work with AA, which is something ATI has had for a while. What you will notice is that you would be able to run GR:AW at a much higher resolution with in turn would take some jaggedness away and make it look better. But GR:AW still runs using deferred lighting(i think it was called) and so it will never be able to use AA. Unless they develop hardware that can do that.

It's not that it can't use AA, it's that current hardware isn't good enough to run the type of AA that could be used with deferred lighting. I believe that's how it went.

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I apparently had some driver issues, ATI tray tools was doing something weird but now it works a lot better. After reinstalling tray tools...

Would be neat if not even the new DX10 generation can do AA with that deffered lighting "crap", I can tell you that at 1680x1050 it is still jaggy as hell, at least I think so.

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correct me if i'm wrong. But i'm pretty sure that even with that card you still will not be able to use anti-aliasing. Now nvidia has made HDR work with AA, which is something ATI has had for a while. What you will notice is that you would be able to run GR:AW at a much higher resolution with in turn would take some jaggedness away and make it look better. But GR:AW still runs using deferred lighting(i think it was called) and so it will never be able to use AA. Unless they develop hardware that can do that.

It's not that it can't use AA, it's that current hardware isn't good enough to run the type of AA that could be used with deferred lighting. I believe that's how it went.

I think if i remember right in my reading it needs to run supersampling AA which is a BIG hit on current cards... not sure with this new card though.

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Using a 7950 GX2 able to get mostly 70's fps...everything cranked. Will wait for Vista and hopefully a better 64 bit OS with drivers for the PhysX card. Getting 225+fps on HL2 so, will wait on the DX10 for now. Crysis however will probably work best on DX10, although there is supposed to be a Direct X 9.0L version for us stragglers...

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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8800 GTX ------------------------------ 1900 XTX

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8800 GTX

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

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8800 GTX ------------------------------ 1900 XTX

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Note on the bottom right image... textures missing from water tower making it checkered...

8800 GTX

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My 7900GTX runs GRAW at 1680x1050 rather well. I never see it dip below 40fps in heavy firefights and it usually hovers around 50-60fps. I would LOVE to get my hands on a 8800GTX, but as it is it would probably be smarter to wait and see what ATI comes up with. That, or when the 8800 cards go down from their current 90nm process to 65nm. Or switch over to DDR4 memory rather than DDR3. I still don't understand that decision....

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

graw_af.gif

8800 GTX ------------------------------ 1900 XTX

graw2006111104065587hm7.th.jpggraw20060524012842654og.th.jpg

8800 GTX

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Looking at that, you wouldn't think any hardware could run GRAW at higher resolutions. Think what you will, but I have FRAPS running at all times when I play any game, and I stand by my statement. In a multiplayer match I never see a dip into the 30's (except some of the harder [GR] Coop maps). You also have to remember that these benchmarks are run on some of the most demanding parts of the game. Benchmarks are great, but rarely reflect real world performance.

EDIT: Oh, and while looking at some G80 benchmarks, I found one where they did it with GRAW. The 7900GTX averaged 45fps at 1600x1200 :) But damn.....if only all of us had a 8800GTX.....especially in SLI!

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/391/19/

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Well, after starting to play F.E.A.R: Extraction point I must say, I considered GRAW to be unoptimized, but god damn! I can run FEAR at everything at max and 2xAA at 1680x1050 at decent speeds most of the time. In EP I got 20fps when looking down a black hole in one spot, I opened a door and came into a more open space and got 13(!!!) fps, I go into a fairly detailed subway and get 60+, I go into another big open space and have 60+, go into a small room and suddenly have 16fps. God damnit, I don´t know what they been doing when mapping, and I bought the game, never again an impulse buy....and lowering settings don´t do much unless you lower it a LOT. Do not buy unless you have an 8800gtx or some major sli setup! Beware!

I been goofing around on the single player maps in GRAW a little, and the fps do vary a lot between the maps, but I truly hope they try to make GRAW 2 more scalable, right now, at least for me, messing with the ingame settings don´t do that much, the only thing that have a great impact on fps is lowering the resolution. Most people are starting to have lcd setups and they don´t like non native resolutions that great.

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Well, after starting to play F.E.A.R: Extraction point I must say, I considered GRAW to be unoptimized, but god damn! I can run FEAR at everything at max and 2xAA at 1680x1050 at decent speeds most of the time. In EP I got 20fps when looking down a black hole in one spot, I opened a door and came into a more open space and got 13(!!!) fps, I go into a fairly detailed subway and get 60+, I go into another big open space and have 60+, go into a small room and suddenly have 16fps. God damnit, I don´t know what they been doing when mapping, and I bought the game, never again an impulse buy....and lowering settings don´t do much unless you lower it a LOT. Do not buy unless you have an 8800gtx or some major sli setup! Beware!

I been goofing around on the single player maps in GRAW a little, and the fps do vary a lot between the maps, but I truly hope they try to make GRAW 2 more scalable, right now, at least for me, messing with the ingame settings don´t do that much, the only thing that have a great impact on fps is lowering the resolution. Most people are starting to have lcd setups and they don´t like non native resolutions that great.

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Here is what does matter in GRAW

#1 Shadows... turn them to off and you get the biggest variation of FPS + less dips in FPS. Low is still a big hit.

#2 Post effects. Turn to low will increase FPS

Dynamic lighting you need... if someone doesn't have a silencer you can see the flash.

Effects medium or high. High during explosions may lag you a little.

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I actually find that I have 35-60 most of the time with shadows at low and postprocessing at low, at 1680x1050. But of course it would be nicer with 60+ all the time..;o)

Yeah but i'm running a 6800GS. To get 1280x1024 i have to run it like above ... average 35fps which is extremely playable.

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I actually find that I have 35-60 most of the time with shadows at low and postprocessing at low, at 1680x1050. But of course it would be nicer with 60+ all the time..;o)

Yeah but i'm running a 6800GS. To get 1280x1024 i have to run it like above ... average 35fps which is extremely playable.

Removing the shadows didn´t do much on the map I was at, I guess like 2-3 fps from low to all off.

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LOL there is nothing wrong with the watertower(I recall you saying something about this before) I have checked out that water tower at every angle I could(last time it was mentioned) it is NOT a mixing texture its a checkered paint job... :wall:

Excuse , but my English is not very good. Can repeat to me the commentary?

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