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hi guys, im posting to let u know that a member of a site called fpsbanana is taking the models from graw and porting them into css, and publicly releasing it. this is illegal. ur not supposed too have any graw content unless u own the game. whats to stop others without the game to dl? i have even brought it to the attention of site admins, and they dont do anything about it. if could bring this to the attention of one of the grin guys that hang around this site, im sure they dont want their work being passed out for free. basically the site admins wont even bother taking it down, so i hope they will if one of the guys from grin tells them to. thanx.

heres the link to the public release

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/16725

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Ok, im preds eyes there isnt a problem...

But the reason he was asking about models ect here was so that he could extract the models from GRAW and port them to CSS...

Without the correct permissions this could get him in a hellofa lot of trouble.

He has been doing this between game porting for awhile now.

And this one has kicked up a major ruckes.

Read The Comments, Right Hand Side

What are your thoughts on what pred is doing?

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Wow, they did a good job, looks pretty accurate. Personally I'm not sure how Ubisoft will react to it, they will see it now for sure, but I'm not sure what stance they would take... :hmm: If these models are ripped straight out of the game I guess the Legal team at Ubi might very well be interested...

Thanks for the info anyway!

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Edit > Here's the thread where Pred asked for help.

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Wow, they did a good job, looks pretty accurate. Personally I'm not sure how Ubisoft will react to it, they will see it now for sure, but I'm not sure what stance they would take... :hmm: If these models are ripped straight out of the game I guess the Legal team at Ubi might very well be interested...

Thanks for the info anyway!

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Edit > Here's the thread where Pred asked for help.

yeah i just want it brought to grins attention is all, because the admins of the site just ignore us when we try to explain its illegal.

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While I agree with you on what this person is doing... However, you can rest assured that they are very aware of this and handling it. There is no need to bash the site admins, staff and moderators.

oh im not bashing anyone, its counter-productive anyway

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yeah, im involved in the fpsb thread too. I told them it was illegal and he said that I should keep on crying because nobody can hear you.

this dude has released various ported models for alot of games, and before he used to do it without credits. the naive people at this site acually think he made it and praises him.

response: if they are illegal....why dont the admins take them down???....talk them

that subject has been brought up before and they still allows it.

heres links to all ported models:

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/16725

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/15905

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/15903

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/15900

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/15896

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/13601

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/13485

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/13268

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12959

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12285

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12284

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12283

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12282

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12281

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12271

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12150

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/12149

so yeah

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Might I suggest an email to the abuse department at his hosting provider after checking out their TOS/AUP.

I know we have a very strict Terms of Use like most reputable ISP's, I am sure his provider has one too!

OrgName: FDC Servers.net, LLC

OrgID: FDCSE

Address: 141 West Jackson Blvd, Suite 1135

City: Chicago

StateProv: IL

PostalCode: 60604

Country: US

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE438-ARIN

OrgAbuseName: ABUSE department

OrgAbusePhone: +1-312-913-9304

OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@fdcservers.net

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The reason, Ammo, is that this site supports the creative work of modders, and has a long history of trying to help those modders who's original IP was taken without permission.

I guess if someone broke the law in a way that harmed you, you wouldn't mind?

Believe it or not, it's sometimes of interest to not just the harmed parties, or more accurately, the clearly harmed parties are not always the only victims.

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Let um be, only ones that should have any interrest in stopping it is Ubi or GRiN.

In case you skipped actually reading this thread, it was created in an attempt to notify Ubi or GRiN of a potential IP violation. Your entire point is the same reason this thread was created. So what's the problem?

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Ask an employee of GRin or RSE the same question. They have had their legal rights in most of the planet's copyright laws violated. This is a tort crime in said places, for a reason.

If you wrote a book, with the intention of selling it, and someone else took your book, replaced your name with theirs, and gave it away for free, would your sales not suffer? I know it's a hugely debated argument, and for a reason, but legally speaking, a civil tort situation exists. You would be potentially losing income.

It's not theft; I'm big on that part, no matter what the copyright industry may imply, but it's still illegal, and for a reason. One who infringes copyright does potentially deprive the author (content creator, insert appropriate term) of real income. If this doesn't bother you, fine. Doesn't change the law, and the concern others have about IP violations.

In other words, if you don't see the problem here, fine. A "crime" (bracketed to demonstrate that it's rarely a criminal law situation, but still illegal) was committed. Don't agree? So be it. The fact remains that it's illegal.

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Its not a whole book, (game).

and no it doesnt hurt their sales at all.

You think people are going to buy GRAW just for the models? or buy CSS instead just to use those GRAW models?

They should be happy someones actually using their models and not going to waste like GRAW is.

But the guy that posted it here is a crybaby narc.

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Its not a whole book, (game).

and no it doesnt hurt their sales at all.

You think people are going to buy GRAW just for the models? or buy CSS instead just to use those GRAW models?

They should be happy someones actually using their models and not going to waste like GRAW is.

But the guy that posted it here is a crybaby narc.

Taking anothers work and distributing it for free, be it the work of a professional (developers) or amateurs(modders), is stealing. You may think a stolen model here or there is nothing; tell that to the guy who spent 2 months working on it. Stop trying to spin it, your only making yourself look bad. If you just want to turn this into a stupid back and forth argument, don't bother. Dannik has already explained quite well, much better than I could have.

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I may be wrong but they look more like the customizable models in the 360 version of GRAW and R6 Lockdown.

you are indeed wrong, its our model :)

it isnt ripped per say tho since we actually released the 3dsmax models in the lastest patch.however Its still illegal.

On the other hand it could be considered free advertisment. I stand neutral in this question.

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