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I have a single 3500AMD and had trouble with team speak. I set the cpu priority for teamspeak.exe in task manager to realtime and all is good.

I have also changes my IRQ priority for my graphics card in the registry and have gained a few FPS-be careful with this on if you are not Registry ready. If you have a server I suggest giving priority to CMOS.

Also if you have an old NIC, go and get a new one that allow "offload of network tasks" it will help. I have an Intel and played with it and know that it helps (from 15 years of building NT servers).

I also suggest MS defender BETA 2,0 in place of all spyware code, and if is easily disabled during game play-it is free and will always be free thanks Bill Gates. If my buddies at Aluria find out I am a dead man, but free is good!

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I forgot one. Create a shortcut and paste this into the target "%windir%\system32\Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks" leave out the quotes.

and in the start in "%windir%" again leave the quotes out.

What it does when launched is it kills all orphaned DLL's

XP is a mess when it comes to DLL's

Reagrds from your local NT engineer-it is all NT LOL!

NOX

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:hmm:

ty for that....now we just need some tweaks that will make GRAW good. lol.

ty for that

First you said it was good

Then you said it was bad

Then you apologised and said it was good again

then you said it was bad again and that you traded it on Hitman blood something or other.

So would tweaks really make any difference to you??

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Reread my post and wanted to make it clear there was no disrespect-I appreciate the frustration fo all my Shooter friends.

I got a buddy who manages the local Best Buy I took my first purchase back to him and he accepted it.

When my 11yr old found out she "talked up to me" and expressed her disappointment with my choice of returning it. She gave me, along with my 7 year old son $11.37, and they escorted me back to repurchase GRAW. (they still play [GR] in Superman mode, but promise to catch up someday)

She basically said "dad you where there before those other men (UBI and GRIN)" and "if you keep playing they have to fix it, because it was 50 bucks" and to them $50.00 is akin to a national deficit or a trip to Mickey's house "Disney World" or a Automobile.

So what they are saying to you UBI and GRIN-do not let them down. They see the UBI logo on all of the PS2 stuff we got, and believe me my son is like a "rabid dog that bites the cuff of your trousers, shake all you can and he will not let go-and if you let me down you got a 7 year old that will dog you and your titles for a very long time" this is not an overstatement because he like me.

I know that you, GRIN, are working hard and I never want to seem ungrateful-thanks for your effort, but get'er done.

From Sunny Tampa Florida home of Central Command

=wWw=NOX

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Also if you have an old NIC, go and get a new one that allow "offload of network tasks" it will help. I have an Intel and played with it and know that it helps (from 15 years of building NT servers).

Don't buy into this gimmick. Your processor is not being 100% utilized by your game every second, and packaging data at the rate it takes for games and TeamSpeak is not enough to put any considerable load on your processor. Maybe .2% ....

Remember people, he built NT servers for 15 years :rofl:

And as usual: :g_withgrin:

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Also if you have an old NIC, go and get a new one that allow "offload of network tasks" it will help. I have an Intel and played with it and know that it helps (from 15 years of building NT servers).

Don't buy into this gimmick. Your processor is not being 100% utilized by your game every second, and packaging data at the rate it takes for games and TeamSpeak is not enough to put any considerable load on your processor. Maybe .2% ....

Remember people, he built NT servers for 15 years :rofl:

And as usual: :g_withgrin:

Hey modem boy, I am sorry that I was not clear it was aimed at GRAW servers and really old and or cheap nics. It will help with any type of IO, along with prioritizing CMOS.

And if GRAW does not spike your CPU on single core chips-well that is news to all of us that know it to be true. Teamspeak is unusable during play! You have to stop moving to talk-Call me a liar or even a fool for responding to you.

I will post my resume how about you!

D.O.D.

Con-Agra

CitiBank

Unisys

Holland & Knight LLP

IKON

Modem Boy,

Sorry you got me on a bad night and I am not done with you! I guess the engineers at Intel and Cisco need you advice and experience.

Send your resume and I will be sure to forward it to Santa Clara and San Jose.

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Oh is that what he bit on-well I was an OS/2 guy for a couple of years prior to that. Seen one 32bit multitasker and you have seen them all-except OS/2 was far better than NT3.0

Question for GRIN regarding disconnects and ICMP handling visa vie "Black hole" routers. How do you handle MTU? And have you got a beta of Vista, does Chimney help?

In regards to XP firewall and Soho routers do we need to reconfig for ICMP error handling to renegotiate MTU?

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Also if you have an old NIC, go and get a new one that allow "offload of network tasks" it will help. I have an Intel and played with it and know that it helps (from 15 years of building NT servers).

Don't buy into this gimmick. Your processor is not being 100% utilized by your game every second, and packaging data at the rate it takes for games and TeamSpeak is not enough to put any considerable load on your processor. Maybe .2% ....

Remember people, he built NT servers for 15 years :rofl:

And as usual: :g_withgrin:

Hey modem boy, I am sorry that I was not clear it was aimed at GRAW servers and really old and or cheap nics. It will help with any type of IO, along with prioritizing CMOS.

And if GRAW does not spike your CPU on single core chips-well that is news to all of us that know it to be true. Teamspeak is unusable during play! You have to stop moving to talk-Call me a liar or even a fool for responding to you.

I will post my resume how about you!

D.O.D.

Con-Agra

CitiBank

Unisys

Holland & Knight LLP

IKON

Modem Boy,

Sorry you got me on a bad night and I am not done with you! I guess the engineers at Intel and Cisco need you advice and experience.

Send your resume and I will be sure to forward it to Santa Clara and San Jose.

On servers and clients both, Graw maxes out the main processor. Note if you have a hyperthreading P4 or dual core cpu it will show 50% meaning one core is fully maxed. That is why all ts issues are with single core athlons and non hyperthreading P4's(they fight for placement in the 100% used single core). Your other 50% which is the other core (or with hyperthreading... virtual core) is handling ts and the rest of your system.

Nox is correct... sorry feld.

btw my resume is 2.5 years with ibm (tss division)

9 years with a local oem manufacturing pc's, servers (I'm also a system designer for our own line) Networking (i handle all our business clientel)

I also have a 2 years associates in computer maintenance and robotics and started the mcse tests (4 of them i passed) in the nt days, but they canceled it for windows 2000 which i took 1 test and they moved to windows 2003. Around here though they don't ask for it so i gave up as real world experience beats book smart anyway.

Oh and for offload network tasks... here is the xp tweak. It only helps though for newer cards that support it.

Offload Network Task Processing onto the Network Card

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet \ Services \ Tcpip \ Parameters]

Many newer network cards have the ability of taking some of the network processing load off of the processor and performing it right on the card (much like Hardware T&L on most new video cards). This can significantly lower the CPU processes needed to maintain a network connection, freeing up that processor time for other tasks. This does not work on all cards, and it can cause network connectivity problems on systems where the service is enabled but unsupported, so please check with your NIC manufacturer prior to enabling this tweak. Find the DWORD "DisableTaskOffload" and set the value to 0 (the default value is 1). If the key is not already available, create it.

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Hey GRIN!

One of the troubleshooting posts directly place PPP in the mix in regards to DSL disconnects. So Winsock is showing its ugly head. There are other posts, thanks to ROCO over at AFZ (a great community I may add) found better performance by backing off 512 to 256.

I have read other posts that sound like third party ie Norton and McAffee security suites that have hosed up Winsock-never mind spyware and Firewalls and all kind of other misc.

Many in the community have SOHO at MTU=1500 and nics at 536-this with Winsock will cause packet problems and thus disconnects. I do not need to remind you that we are averaging over 94% CPU utilization, so our servers cannot respond in the 200 milliseconds window-or I must rephrase find it hard to believe that they could at near 100% CPU Ut.

How are you handling ACK?

Ditto on MTU in your test environ are you Cisco 3000+, running gig ethernet. Your internal MTU would be 1500, and not the 536 most of the guys are XP'ed at.

We cannot expect anyway near a 3ms ACK reply-so do we rebuffer to lets say 100ms. Can we change from 8 to say 5 on packet? Caviat to any one that uses a MS server hosting and thing other that pure file server adjusting buffering can and will cause apps to fail X-change being the first.

Some of the symptoms in the tech session here sound like a server SYN flood-I hope you get what I an saying. I have seen posts regarding "Stats" reporting on players and servers becoming unstable-it sounds like Winsock to me.

ROCO are you ISA? You got x-change running on 2003 full or SBS? And or do you have SMS Loaded? At 80% CPU that box must be logging packet recoalecing.

the default is 536 on the WAN but your internal NIC is like 1436. If you are routered via Cisco or are you Wellfleet (Nortel) all you old timers know what I am saying, you are 1500 MTU. A PROXY/ISA is by default and the best case for Winsock2 tracking.

What I am getting at is what theef alluded to he said something like this "stick to servers that your ping is close to" If we need to readjust for slow return time ACK acknowledgement because of buffering and latency-then so be it, so Admins on splash can warn high pingers out side of adjustment they can expect disconnects.

Perfect world is return <3ms that would by 24kb for each client per socket request-or something like that.

Modem Boy, I am not a WINSOCK programmer, I am not a programmer, I will never be a programmer, I never wanted to be a programmer.

Regards

NOX

Grin sorry I had an ADHD moment.

Gamespy in the past (2004) had problems with Winsock.

Still in my little yellow bus driving around!

NOX

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Hey GRIN!

One of the troubleshooting posts directly place PPP in the mix in regards to DSL disconnects. So Winsock is showing its ugly head. There are other posts, thanks to ROCO over at AFZ (a great community I may add) found better performance by backing off 512 to 256.

I have read other posts that sound like third party ie Norton and McAffee security suites that have hosed up Winsock-never mind spyware and Firewalls and all kind of other misc.

Many in the community have SOHO at MTU=1500 and nics at 536-this with Winsock will cause packet problems and thus disconnects. I do not need to remind you that we are averaging over 94% CPU utilization, so our servers cannot respond in the 200 milliseconds window-or I must rephrase find it hard to believe that they could at near 100% CPU Ut.

How are you handling ACK?

Ditto on MTU in your test environ are you Cisco 3000+, running gig ethernet. Your internal MTU would be 1500, and not the 536 most of the guys are XP'ed at.

We cannot expect anyway near a 3ms ACK reply-so do we rebuffer to lets say 100ms. Can we change from 8 to say 5 on packet? Caviat to any one that uses a MS server hosting and thing other that pure file server adjusting buffering can and will cause apps to fail X-change being the first.

Some of the symptoms in the tech session here sound like a server SYN flood-I hope you get what I an saying. I have seen posts regarding "Stats" reporting on players and servers becoming unstable-it sounds like Winsock to me.

ROCO are you ISA? You got x-change running on 2003 full or SBS? And or do you have SMS Loaded? At 80% CPU that box must be logging packet recoalecing.

the default is 536 on the WAN but your internal NIC is like 1436. If you are routered via Cisco or are you Wellfleet (Nortel) all you old timers know what I am saying, you are 1500 MTU. A PROXY/ISA is by default and the best case for Winsock2 tracking.

What I am getting at is what theef alluded to he said something like this "stick to servers that your ping is close to" If we need to readjust for slow return time ACK acknowledgement because of buffering and latency-then so be it, so Admins on splash can warn high pingers out side of adjustment they can expect disconnects.

Perfect world is return <3ms that would by 24kb for each client per socket request-or something like that.

Modem Boy, I am not a WINSOCK programmer, I am not a programmer, I will never be a programmer, I never wanted to be a programmer.

Regards

NOX

Grin sorry I had an ADHD moment.

Gamespy in the past (2004) had problems with Winsock.

Still in my little yellow bus driving around!

NOX

On our game server, no exchange or anything but 2003 server R2 as a domain controller and some small file serving. It's also handling the routing through ras since my cisco pix 501 decided to go south.

Our ts is on a 2003 small business server though running local exchange for calendar sharing, and also as a domain controller r2.

I haven't played with the settings though as both have integrated marvel chipsets and i am unsure if it supports offloading and could not find documentation on it.

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POw_lightspeed Caught me I made a mistake in my instructions to the DLL clearer.

Here are correct instuctions.

Create shortcut on desktop and browse to

C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

After it is created right click it and go to properties

Past the below in to "target"

%windir%\system32\Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

Paste the below into "Start in"

%windir%

It searchs through XP and any DLL that has not been used I think default time is 3 minutes and just clears them from the OS, it will help with stability and speed.

If you open task manager and click on the icon if it is set up correctly you will see a rundll32 appear monetarily(in processes) and the disapear and means that it flushed correctly. If it is not working message me back with your e-mail in the post and I will forward a copy that you can drop on your desktop.

Regards

NOX

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Does this kill items in the system tray also?

I have ATI Tray tools to get FPS( Uses less than FRAPs)

And I have a Speedpad which loads into the system, that I use for GRAW.

Do I have to restart my PC after playing graw, or will the needed DLL's reopen, as I open the correct applications?

Create shortcut on desktop and browse to

C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

After it is created right click it and go to properties

Past the below in to "target"

%windir%\system32\Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

Paste the below into "Start in"

%windir%

It searchs through XP and any DLL that has not been used I think default time is 3 minutes and just clears them from the OS, it will help with stability and speed.

If you open task manager and click on the icon if it is set up correctly you will see a rundll32 appear monetarily(in processes) and the disapear and means that it flushed correctly. If it is not working message me back with your e-mail in the post and I will forward a copy that you can drop on your desktop.

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Does this kill items in the system tray also?

I have ATI Tray tools to get FPS( Uses less than FRAPs)

And I have a Speedpad which loads into the system, that I use for GRAW.

Do I have to restart my PC after playing graw, or will the needed DLL's reopen, as I open the correct applications?

Create shortcut on desktop and browse to

C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

After it is created right click it and go to properties

Past the below in to "target"

%windir%\system32\Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

Paste the below into "Start in"

%windir%

It searches through XP and any DLL that has not been used I think default time is 3 minutes and just clears them from the OS, it will help with stability and speed.

If you open task manager and click on the icon if it is set up correctly you will see a rundll32 appear monetarily(in processes) and the disappear and means that it flushed correctly. If it is not working message me back with your e-mail in the post and I will forward a copy that you can drop on your desktop.

No it should not cause a problem even after the puter has been on for a while-your speed pad and graphics are or should be on time active.

For any one else reading these post I want to add some more.

1. Dump your internet security suite-it filters ip packets for intrusion detection, unless you are using your pc to do buz related tasks or host a home based web server or such on your pc..(any thing that you are serving to remote users) And use XP's native firewall-a caveat when you uninstall Mcafee it is going to screw with Winsock, but http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html

has a decent product that can correct AD ware or third-party screwing with your registry.

2. Dump 3rd party spy ware apps and download Defender Beta 2.0 from Microsoft it is free and unlike Ad ware is not a hack infest-and can be easily disabled during game play-I am working on a registry que that will automatically turn off Defender and MS firewall when GRAW is running.

Again http://www.spychecker.com/program/winsockxpfix.html if you have problems after uninstalling.

3. If you are wireless and can run a patch cord to the router do it.

4. If you have cable modem and have more than two splitters between the puter and data source-pair em down or invest in gold plated components.

5. DSL and PPP? I will try to have more about this later. Roco has some good insight into buz class DSL.

6. If you have a $10.00 nic get an INTEL-or 3com, but this is vendor bias on my part-I used to love SMC, but after 95 beta 8 (August of 94) they screwed me and I cannot let it go, but they got some good stuff, and have a bunch of people that are smarter than I-I hope!

The drivers alone with a major are worth their weight in gold-there are some really high end nics out there aimed at gamers, and I would shy away due to overkill but if you got a server go for it.

7. If this game is not loading and you got the minimum specs, reload XP-it is not the game but your puter, and do not go pop culture with your PC ie MP3 and that crap use it for what it is a game machine-I have to repair family member machines and hate pop on data.

Hard Core [GR] and yes [GR] was coded for use with modems and did not rely on the OS-so maybe it was better. (sorry not a dig but an observation of the work that was required on net code back in the day of modems, now it is easier but bloated-I hate bloatware.) I really hate cpu ut at 97+%.

Keep up the good work GRIN

NOX

Riding on my little yellow bus looking for the bus stop!

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I refresh every 1.5 years, If you have a full copy of XP and not a

retail refresh CD you can do it with out loosing good data or

downloads. It just refreshes the windows directory and all you have

to do is reinstall apps that you want-(remember do not format just re-

install) if I am being to sophmoric and your skill has this in check-

good!

I appologize just needed to state (I hate loosing data never have and

I do not want to help anyone to do as well-lol).

If you have not already download MS defender, if you have already you

will notice in control panel and new ICON "Software explorers" it is

your first stop to get an idea of what is running on your pc. A

refresh may not be necessary check it out-good stuff. Look at your

currently running programs and networked connected programs-it is a

good start if it is not an MS app find out and kill it.

I have under network connected

1. messenger

2-5. 4 generic MS hosts

6. MS LSA

7. and defender

That is it when the machine is idling.

Currently running non published I have one Ageia-LOL!

You can enable or disable from many of the sub menu's

And then go to you control panel add remove and delete all not needed.

Hope this helps-and does work to keep it clean, and you will get an

eye for what should or more importantly should not be running.

GS/HF

NOX

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POw_lightspeed Caught me I made a mistake in my instructions to the DLL clearer.

Here are correct instuctions.

Create shortcut on desktop and browse to

C:\WINDOWS\system32\rundll32.exe

After it is created right click it and go to properties

Past the below in to "target"

%windir%\system32\Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

Paste the below into "Start in"

%windir%

It searchs through XP and any DLL that has not been used I think default time is 3 minutes and just clears them from the OS, it will help with stability and speed.

If you open task manager and click on the icon if it is set up correctly you will see a rundll32 appear monetarily(in processes) and the disapear and means that it flushed correctly. If it is not working message me back with your e-mail in the post and I will forward a copy that you can drop on your desktop.

Regards

NOX

Is this only for WinXP? How about Win2000?

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It should work without any trouble. Watch task manager when you kick it in, you will see a rundll32 appear if it hangs just kill it.

How many peeps out there running my favorite flavor of MS desktop (Win2000)?

Chime in and I will get a machine up and do some tweaking

NOX

Got my spectacles on but cannot find my keys to that damn Yellow bus.

I could go for a good 7 hours of wilderness, no rspwn, no nades! Modded for 20% visibility with fog and snow-iron sights and pistols!!! Man that sounds good!--oh oh [GR]...oh oh Bastogne.

No dis GRIN!-Keep up the good work.

PS UBI.COM "Consensus" = GR.NET "NOX" get me in I will be the best Beta tester you have ever had-fair but good. So help me I promise.

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