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I've been too busy playing BF2 and RavenShield to be waiting for the "July" patch in August.

exactly.

It actually stinks that I have had to revert to BF2, but the game isn't worth it right now, what with all the issues rehashed a hundred times over in these forums...

I seriously hope they come out with dedicated server before an expansion pack... otherwise, you could pretty much kiss GR:AW goodbye in the community.

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I've been too busy playing BF2 and RavenShield to be waiting for the "July" patch in August.

exactly.

It actually stinks that I have had to revert to BF2, but the game isn't worth it right now, what with all the issues rehashed a hundred times over in these forums...

I seriously hope they come out with dedicated server before an expansion pack... otherwise, you could pretty much kiss GR:AW goodbye in the community.

Man i just reinstalled BF2 then downloaded the new patch, joined up thought yes this is great then 5 min wait to load, same old sxxt jumping around laggy servers although my comp runs graw smooth as silk now, i now know why i uninstalled the game plz Graw be good soon lol on hols to bulgaria for two weeks im sure when i get back there will be 2000 plus servers like there is for BF2, ahhhhhhhhhhh DAD WAKE UP WAKE UP WILL YA, man just a dream why did you wake me lol

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I've been too busy playing BF2 and RavenShield to be waiting for the "July" patch in August.

thats the problem, ppl r going to other games cause they dont want for the July, August, September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August (...) patch...

if we buy a game we want the game ready n prepared to b played as is intended: TDM, anticheat n Dedi Servers... while this arent ready ppl go to other games like BF2, CSS, FEAR (...)

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Yout right, they are migrating to other game for now. But to be honest they dont sound very happy about doing so. So Im sure they wil play those other games for abit, and when GRAW is finished, hopefully they will head back this way.

I cant say for sure whats going to happen, I can only speak on what ive done in the past when games were not going the way i wanted. I left and came back to check after new patched to see if it was up to my standard. if it was, I would stick around, if not, Id find a new game.

I hope this is the case with players now, as GRIN is doing everything in their power to make it the way we want.

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Yout right, they are migrating to other game for now. But to be honest they dont sound very happy about doing so. So Im sure they wil play those other games for abit, and when GRAW is finished, hopefully they will head back this way.

I cant say for sure whats going to happen, I can only speak on what ive done in the past when games were not going the way i wanted. I left and came back to check after new patched to see if it was up to my standard. if it was, I would stick around, if not, Id find a new game.

I hope this is the case with players now, as GRIN is doing everything in their power to make it the way we want.

Good point Judge, I am still with GRIN, but I spend most of my time with FEAR, COD2, SWAT, RVS.

:g_withgrin::g_withgrin::g_withgrin::g_withgrin::g_withgrin::g_withgrin::g_withgrin:

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Judge made a good point there. I am not too happy going back to the same old games only because I prefer to try something new for a change.

Im here for the same reason prizm. I just wont go back, to the old ones I used to play because Im honestly sick of them.

I played CoD and then moved to CoD2, which was basically a double port with updated graphics. What i mean by double port is, they took the original CoD, and the 360 CoD2 and combined them. Its the same game with a couple of new maps, that adds nothing new to the series except graphics. It was fun for abit, but that was mostly because it was cool to the see the od maps done with detail.

I played BF1942 for awhile, and then moved to Desert Combat mod. Well BF2 is basically a copy of that mod with better graphics. Its the same case of been there done that, and it gets boring quick for me because I like my games to evolve over time, not just graphics wise.

GRAW on the other hand has taken a great game ([GR]) and completely re worked it. I applaud the balls it took to do this. Its never easy to follow in such big footsteps, and to be honest if GRAW was [GR] with updated graphics, I would be letdown, only because I know there is so much more technology out there, and I want to see it. GRAW delivered on this fact so Im happy. It still has alot of work to be done, I admit freely, but seeing what GRIN has delivered from our requests, makes me a believer that they will do what they can to make this game great.

As it stands right now, alot of feel burned by Ubi, and rightly so, they did not do everything in their power to get us a game we would find finished, but GRIN is there patching the wounds, and asking us where it hurts worse, the only problem is, the have to ask Ubi if they are allowed to fix the wounds before they can do anyhitng about it. they are willing to do the work, but are held back by the powers above waiting to see if our insurance is good. :)

Im here untill the community completely collapses.

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Someone asked why we couldn't have waited 6 months...

Here is the answer... xbox 360 release. GRAW for xbox was coming out and if they didn't do something, for the next 6 months we would have been all over UBI for not supporting the pc players.

I thought they did it to save Rocky the hassle of having to delete 3 "just like GR2" posts on an hourly basis for six months straight.

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Judge made a good point there. I am not too happy going back to the same old games only because I prefer to try something new for a change.

Im here for the same reason prizm. I just wont go back, to the old ones I used to play because Im honestly sick of them.

I played CoD and then moved to CoD2, which was basically a double port with updated graphics. What i mean by double port is, they took the original CoD, and the 360 CoD2 and combined them. Its the same game with a couple of new maps, that adds nothing new to the series except graphics. It was fun for abit, but that was mostly because it was cool to the see the od maps done with detail.

I played BF1942 for awhile, and then moved to Desert Combat mod. Well BF2 is basically a copy of that mod with better graphics. Its the same case of been there done that, and it gets boring quick for me because I like my games to evolve over time, not just graphics wise.

GRAW on the other hand has taken a great game ([GR]) and completely re worked it. I applaud the balls it took to do this. Its never easy to follow in such big footsteps, and to be honest if GRAW was [GR] with updated graphics, I would be letdown, only because I know there is so much more technology out there, and I want to see it. GRAW delivered on this fact so Im happy. It still has alot of work to be done, I admit freely, but seeing what GRIN has delivered from our requests, makes me a believer that they will do what they can to make this game great.

As it stands right now, alot of feel burned by Ubi, and rightly so, they did not do everything in their power to get us a game we would find finished, but GRIN is there patching the wounds, and asking us where it hurts worse, the only problem is, the have to ask Ubi if they are allowed to fix the wounds before they can do anyhitng about it. they are willing to do the work, but are held back by the powers above waiting to see if our insurance is good. :)

Im here untill the community completely collapses.

great post and i agree :)

Someone asked why we couldn't have waited 6 months...

Here is the answer... xbox 360 release. GRAW for xbox was coming out and if they didn't do something, for the next 6 months we would have been all over UBI for not supporting the pc players.

ya thats the truth anyone that was here from ebfore realese should rmeber all of the its gonna be cancleed postst that there was

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You must not have played GR1 down there then... as it never had true dedicated files and actually took a 16mb minimum video card for the server.

Sure we played GR1 on non-dedicated servers at LAN's and Overseas. But that was a while ago........it is 2006 and if you release a game with MP then it should have dedi server.

Dont get me wrong...I love the sound of the new content, I dearly love GRAW and there is no other game I would rather play right now....even with GRAW's shortcomings. We just need some freaking local servers to play on.

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The JAckal' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:35 AM' post='404861']

This MP Pack contains important features (new modalities overall) but THE difference 'll be made by S.A. server files.

Until that release GRAW's MP dont change so much..

Amen ;)

I'd like to add:

• real and secure anticheat

• replays

You can add all the maps you want, new game types or whatsoever....but it's no use if you don't have a good-managed server to play the game!!! I am actually getting frustrated by the inevitable and ballsbreaking crashes and disconnections occurring every 2-3 games played..... :o= ...(Not to mention pathetic Anticheat if running)..... :o= Until then, this game is dead meat for a little, little community.... (Why Ubisoft EU official servers are almost empty or down even at rush hour???)

Amen

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The JAckal' date='Aug 1 2006, 11:35 AM' post='404861']

This MP Pack contains important features (new modalities overall) but THE difference 'll be made by S.A. server files.

Until that release GRAW's MP dont change so much..

Amen ;)

I'd like to add:

• real and secure anticheat

• replays

You can add all the maps you want, new game types or whatsoever....but it's no use if you don't have a good-managed server to play the game!!! I am actually getting frustrated by the inevitable and ballsbreaking crashes and disconnections occurring every 2-3 games played..... :o= ...(Not to mention pathetic Anticheat if running)..... :o= Until then, this game is dead meat for a little, little community.... (Why Ubisoft EU official servers are almost empty or down even at rush hour???)

Amen

Amen

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I wouldn't buy it. History would only repeat itself. We would be back here in these forums waiting for the "Sept" and "Oct." patch etc. etc. If Redstorm was developing it, then I would buy it. Only because they are more experienced in game development.

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The JAckal' date='Aug 2 2006, 04:29 PM' post='405268']

thing that make me happy is that Grin will release them in the next patch :grin1:

After 4 months from the retail game version released... :wacko:

Yea, I know. Bad choice to not include the dedicated server files at game launch :angry: , but finally we'll have them ...

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The JAckal' date='Aug 2 2006, 09:06 AM' post='405256']

I'd like to know how many GR:AW players will buy GR:AW 2 if it will be developed by GRIN :huh:<_<

:g_withgrin:

Why? Because I would have to believe that IF they actually contracted with UBI to do another PC version, they would have learned from their mistakes the first time around. The number one issue would be establishing a realistic time-frame for development in order to get it right on release, rather than playing catch-up on MP as they are now.

As to the 'Multiplayer Pack 2' details, FINALLY TDM!!!! And even a couple new maps for it. VERY GOOD! THANKS GRIN!!! HOWEVER, I just can't believe that they left out admin tools for the current 'Dedicated Server' functionality!?!?!? This is something that we have been yelling for since release. Several patches have gone by now without this. Are they just going to ignore this forever? Are they going to include remote admin and admin tools with the forthcoming SADS files?

As for SADS files, yes, we know they are supposedly coming, as was pointed out by a link to a post that was made by GRIN over a month ago, saying there would be no Unix version. However, WHEN? These and the admin tools are MUCH MORE important to the viability of the Multiplayer game than ANYTHING put into the patches thus far (Other than a viable AC system).

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We are not talking about a FREE game such as AAO for exemple, for which gamers don't pay a cent then they can be patient.

I have paid 49 euros for GR:AW, but it's very similar to a beta version, not for bugs because all games need fixes and patches, but because it is INCOMPLETE: the retail version have only 1 MP game mode, few maps and clans can't host dedicated server.

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