Fripounet Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 In Europe, in the evening there are only 1,2 or 3 domination servers with 20 or more players. Only 50-100 online players for the whole europe looks like a failure for a new game. My girlfriend likes GRAW and she sometimes plays with my account, but she says there are no players the afternoon. I wanted to offer her GRAW to play online with me, but now I hesitate. I'll reinstall GR1 on our PCs and I hope there are enough GR1 servers (to choice a server with the rules we like), but this "workaround" is not the one we are waiting for... Whatever the actual issues are, I think the lack of a big enough online PC community should be the main concern for UBI/GRIN. (Sorry for the mistakes, English is not my native language) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SPQR]The JAckal Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 No dedicated server files, no party ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4R33DOM Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 As the other poster said, the disregard of clans by ubi/grin is killing the mp off. There is still people playing in the afternoon on the ubi servers though but you are pretty limited to one server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverReed Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Also, the online experience is pretty dire even for the casual player - long load times, no deathcam - its like they've stepped back 6-7 years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Hehe, deathcam has nothing to do with it. It's probably just the dedis and not enough advertising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SPQR]The JAckal Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Without dedicated server files clans can't play clanwars, then GR:AW MP is limited to fun gaming, instead a lot of clans wish to play for ladders/tourneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Feels like everybody have a clan but me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4R33DOM Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 It's not just dedis, it's also the lack of a realistic game mode for tournaments, Domination isn't suitable really for this kind of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishStout Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I am usually on most nights and usually have no issue's with findign a game.. but althought the name suggests Eur.. I am actualyl a canuck... But dedi files has a little something to do with, as well as some bad press out there. All I know is I am on until about 1:00 a.m. and it;s peeing me off.. I need my sleep damit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomhero Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 We "oldschoolers" had lots of GG's without dedicated servers .. hell the first time I played online we had to find ip's in a message board like this one and then put them in to join a game.. and yet we would still fill out games to the max. I have laddered for damn near 10 yrs and the majority wasn't on a dedicated server.. The JAckal' date='Jul 4 2006, 02:40 PM' post='395740'] Without dedicated server files clans can't play clanwars, then GR:AW MP is limited to fun gaming, instead a lot of clans wish to play for ladders/tourneys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 We "oldschoolers" had lots of GG's without dedicated servers .. hell the first time I played online we had to find ip's in a message board like this one and then put them in to join a game.. and yet we would still fill out games to the max. I have laddered for damn near 10 yrs and the majority wasn't on a dedicated server.. The JAckal' date='Jul 4 2006, 02:40 PM' post='395740'] Without dedicated server files clans can't play clanwars, then GR:AW MP is limited to fun gaming, instead a lot of clans wish to play for ladders/tourneys. The funny thing is, GR didn't have seperate dedicated server files either and people still play on dedicated servers, even after 4 1/2 years. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Also, the online experience is pretty dire even for the casual player - long load times, no deathcam - its like they've stepped back 6-7 years.... While there are valid reasons posted in this thread for the quiet servers, long load times is pushing it a bit, they are not bad at all IMO. Mind you, after playing BF2 anything seems to load in a flash by comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish1705 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 (edited) To me so far the online servers just need more players!!! come on guys!!! join online, lots of online servers but lack of players im off to online now cya Edited July 4, 2006 by Danish1705 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[SPQR]The JAckal Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 It's not just dedis, it's also the lack of a realistic game mode for tournaments, Domination isn't suitable really for this kind of game. Also Domination might be realistic without respawns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToW-Angel Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 I personally am not finding this to be true at all... That could be because we mostly just play Co-Ops? I personally don't know... We rarely have less than a full server, even with 4 player capability of Co-Ops, and once we are able to have more... I'm sure we will still have enough to fill all the slots without trouble. It's rare that I see less than 12 in a DOM server... So, people are definitely playing the game. And, from the maps I have seen... Gameplay of more than 16 players in the server is nearly pure chaos. I maybe wrong, but I believe there are enough players, they are a bit too spread out for how many servers there are currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buellsrusx1 Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 there isnt anything positive about the state of multiplayer here, people that think so are just in denial. Or have other motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeLocityChaos Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Personally I dont feel that the lack of server files are much of a reason why there are only a few players online. If there was a large demand to play this game, people would play it regardless. If someone really enjoyed the game they wouldnt let the lack of server files be the sole reason why they didnt play the game. I seriously doubt that adding TDM or Ded support will cause any "dramatic" increase in player numbers. It would be a first if it did. I have never seen a game get even a triple increase in players over a patch. COD2 is a good example of that. The anti-cheat patch only gained about 300 extra avg global players per night. The realisim servers didnt gain any from it. I`ll say again what ive said before. I doubt we will ever see a time when GR:AW has more than 500 people on the servers at a time. IF that is the case, GR:AW likely will not live to see many or any expanison packs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druac_Blaise Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 There are SEVERAL reasons for this, and dedicated server files are only one. 1. There are no real admin controls (if you can't truly manage a server why bother putting one up?) 2. There is no TDM or other popular MP modes to choose from or that work well in a ladder. I know of many who are waiting for the game to be ladderable (word?). 3. There are no dedicated server files with robust admin controls. Our group would have a server up and running and we would be playing on it if we had what we needed to rent and manage one. 4. The fact that this game was released with an incomplete MP game has a huge impact on the number of players you see online. This can and will change when MP is completed. There are other reasons, but I think these are the top ones. I think this will change if we get what we need to support a robust online community. We just don't have what it takes, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semperfi_bohica Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 The MP side of the game's fate lies with that of "Let Down." Oh Grin, you made us Frown! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 There are SEVERAL reasons for this, and dedicated server files are only one. 1. There are no real admin controls (if you can't truly manage a server why bother putting one up?) 2. There is no TDM or other popular MP modes to choose from or that work well in a ladder. I know of many who are waiting for the game to be ladderable (word?). 3. There are no dedicated server files with robust admin controls. Our group would have a server up and running and we would be playing on it if we had what we needed to rent and manage one. 4. The fact that this game was released with an incomplete MP game has a huge impact on the number of players you see online. This can and will change when MP is completed. There are other reasons, but I think these are the top ones. I think this will change if we get what we need to support a robust online community. We just don't have what it takes, yet. I also believe these are the main reasons why there are so few players. The only thing you missed is the lack of an anti cheat also. All of these things are coming out though from what I have read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4R33DOM Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Multiplayer will get more people, a lot of people have already said that they wouldn't get the game until they have a complete multiplayer, when we get this infamous summer patch, these people will most likely get the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverReed Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 While there are valid reasons posted in this thread for the quiet servers, long load times is pushing it a bit, they are not bad at all IMO. Mind you, after playing BF2 anything seems to load in a flash by comparison Beg to differ with you here, dear boy. Typically it takes around a minute before the screen appears so I can interact with it. This is in the UK with 1.1Mbps joining a UBI server. Compare that with Rvs or CoD2 which I used to play - and that is a long load time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moezter Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 I want to play MPbut without direct ip connection I cant play. Thanks UBI for wasting my money.I uninstalled the game a month ago now since there hasnt been a fix for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thr0tt Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Lets hope it isn't too late to get some people playing online - I mean look at Lockdown and its 4 or 5 servers left with no-one playing and the forums dead. I would like a better way of playing Coop online but its getting a little annoying having to host all the time and hang back from the action while others enjoy the fight, die then leave ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted July 6, 2006 Share Posted July 6, 2006 Lets hope it isn't too late to get some people playing online - I mean look at Lockdown and its 4 or 5 servers left with no-one playing and the forums dead. Wow that is all the servers online for Lockdown?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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