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Hello GRIN, first off I'd like to thank you all for developing the coolest game ever to be installed on a PC since GR1 and it will be the ONLY game that we at War League Gaming will be using in our ladders/leagues/tournaments - at least until GR4.

I'd love to be able to open at least one ladder to matching on the day of release, but without knowing the game settings, it is hard to make rules which of course must be in place before anyone can start matching.

Is it possible to release multiplayer server setting info to GRAW competition site admins sometime before the game is actually released? - which could be 24 hours before release for all I care. I'm sure other ladder admins would love to be able to set their rules up before the game is out as well so that we can get to matching right away instead of finding ourselves in a who-gets-their-rules-done-first race.

More than likely, most sites will begin with just one ladder opened at launch, a timed tvt ladder, so any info to help WLG and others get a ladder going on release day would be much appreciated.

Feel free to PM me.

Thanks.

WLG|Apache

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War League Gaming

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Would be great if people would create topics with a proper description about the thread.

LOL...my answer to the name of this thread is:

"Yes...it is possible to grin!" :devil:

With multiplayer being kept quiet, it may not be possible, that's why I am asking. With that said, I think my topic title is sufficient. :rocky:

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With multiplayer being kept quiet, it may not be possible, that's why I am asking. With that said, I think my topic title is sufficient.  :rocky:

It's not your question I'm debating, it's the way you title it.

Anyone reading the forums can not tell what your thread is about.

Two annoyances occur:

1) people jump in your thread only to find it's not what they are looking for.

2) people that actually do want to know more about your question, can't find it properly or are unable to retrace it.

It's not just in our interest you start a topic properly, it's also in yours as your question gets answered faster and better.

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With multiplayer being kept quiet, it may not be possible, that's why I am asking. With that said, I think my topic title is sufficient.  :rocky:

It's not your question I'm debating, it's the way you title it.

Anyone reading the forums can not tell what your thread is about.

Two annoyances occur:

1) people jump in your thread only to find it's not what they are looking for.

2) people that actually do want to know more about your question, can't find it properly or are unable to retrace it.

It's not just in our interest you start a topic properly, it's also in yours as your question gets answered faster and better.

I totally agree, uninformative topics like this one sucks, but your post is important. Please rephrase your topic to a more appropriate one! Period.

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I can see the backlash now if there is no dedicated server files.

especially when they mention it to be in an future patch

if there's no good mp servers on release, there's really no point in getting the game for me, atleast not until they create dedicated servers. Lockdown had the worst server set up i've seen and if that's what we have to look forward to i will be extremely sad.

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I can see the backlash now if there is no dedicated server files.

especially when they mention it to be in an future patch

if there's no good mp servers on release, there's really no point in getting the game for me, atleast not until they create dedicated servers. Lockdown had the worst server set up i've seen and if that's what we have to look forward to i will be extremely sad.

to my understanding from what i have read, hosting a game will be just like GR1

IF they release dedicated server files, until then its hosted on home connections like lockdown was and GR1 was.

Lockdown was the first failure of the R6 series because of no dedicated server files, i sure hope that is not the case with GRAW

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It is of my own (pretty humble) opinion that rules should not be set in any serious ladder/league before the gamers actually have played the game for a while and then can understand what settings should be preferable for a clanmatch.

It's no point in discussing and setting some serveroptions if you dont now how the game/gameplay/maps/weapons will be. If the demo is released before retail we have might have just the time we need to try out the game and consider teamsize/matchtime/number of rounds/spawn vs nospawn/gamemodes etc etc.

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Hey everyone, ease off a bit..... I'm sure we're all stressed about when the de-- is coming out. It seems that we're attacking a bit.

I hope I haven't stepped on anyones toes.....definately not my intentions.... :)

Cheers!

Fresh

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Lockdown would have survived in MP if it were not for all the connection problems, even without dedicated server files.

As has been stated before, GR1 did fine without dedicated server files and if they at least make it easy to find the servers and join them, GR:AW will survive until the files are released.

After reading what Bo had to say about this, I am confident that GRIN will release these files ASAP. As long as finding home servers and joining them works well, we will all be just fine.

I am also confident that GRIN will address any major MP issues ASAP with a patch, unlike what happened with Lockdown. So please, purchase the game on release and help make this game a success!!! :g_cheers:

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Ah look topic changed......everyone should be all warm and fuzzy inside... :P

Sorry, I had to........I love all youse guys......and I mean that in a non-gay way..... :group: You're all so fun to chat with. Can't wait to meet you all on the battlefield.......:gun:

LOL,

Fresh

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With multiplayer being kept quiet, it may not be possible, that's why I am asking. With that said, I think my topic title is sufficient.  :rocky:

It's not your question I'm debating, it's the way you title it.

Anyone reading the forums can not tell what your thread is about.

Two annoyances occur:

1) people jump in your thread only to find it's not what they are looking for.

2) people that actually do want to know more about your question, can't find it properly or are unable to retrace it.

It's not just in our interest you start a topic properly, it's also in yours as your question gets answered faster and better.

LOL you all spend way to much time on forums.... :P <3

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I'm sure this topic is headed for closure, but I'll try to make a few points before the padloack comes out.

Many of us, including myself have gotten sidetracked on the issue of dedicated server file availability. However, two other things are more important.

(1)The ability to run multiple GRAW servers on one machine.

Game server hosting companies maximize return on investment bu running more than one server on a machine.

(2)Video card requirements for the server.

Most hosting companies use servers with minimum to no graphics adpaters. Those that use "real" video cards, are expensive.

If GRAW for PC successfully addresses those two issues it will be a multiplayer success.

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Ardelta

I covered some of what you are talking about in another post and it may help explain the hosting side a little more...

http://www.ghostrecon.net/forums/index.php...er%20files&st=0

For our clan though and most that have hosted GR1, it won't matter either way. GR1 survived and GRAW will also with or without.

They have stated though, they ARE working on dedicated for after the release. Until then, GR1 style should suffice.

Ghost9... have you played GR1 MP at all? It NEVER had dedicated server files to my knowledge, but yet clans could host up to around 20 or so stable (even with GR1's netcode which wasn't the best)

The server would run in "Dedicated mode" but not have seperate files. They didn't say GRAW would not run dedicated... they said there is no seperate Dedicated files. Until they clarify it your arguments are for nothing.

There may be a reason for this also... like anti cheat detection that requires the video card requirement.

Lets keep the negativity on the server till after we have it (or a demo) in hand and Grin has a chance to work on the dedicated side + a refined editor

Until then LETS enjoy what we have... a NEW Ghost Recon title after 5 years of waiting and at lest 1-2 without an official expansion.

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I'm sure this topic is headed for closure, but I'll try to make a few points before the padloack comes out. 

Many of us, including myself have gotten sidetracked on the issue of dedicated server file availability.  However, two other things are more important.

(1)The ability to run multiple GRAW servers on one machine.

Game server hosting companies maximize return on investment bu running more than one server on a machine.

(2)Video card requirements for the server.

Most hosting companies use servers with minimum to no graphics adpaters.  Those that use "real" video cards, are expensive.

If GRAW for PC successfully addresses those two issues it will be a multiplayer success.

The video card requirement is the main concern for me, if the game is good enough, as we all hope it will be, one GRAW process per server will be ok i think in the early days of MP. Hosting companys can run other games on the same box, if GRAW is not to greedy RAM/CPU wise.

Hopefully Grin will be taking these remaining weeks before release to decouple the render engine from the networking engine, sufficiently that it can be run on server boxes without SM2.0 cards in them.

Also i hope UBI is going to setup a few official servers in Europe and the US.

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Ghost9... have you played GR1 MP at all?  It NEVER had dedicated server files to my knowledge, but yet clans could host up to around 20 or so stable (even with GR1's netcode which wasn't the best)

The server would run in "Dedicated mode" but not have seperate files.  They didn't say GRAW would not run dedicated... they said there is no seperate Dedicated files.  Until they clarify it your arguments are for nothing.

I had played some, but it was not easy to find a good server. The ubi list would have lots of servers but the majority of them would be 150+ in ping. It's pointless to me to play on anything over 100. In fact I try to stick to servers below 80. Most home users do not have a good enough net connection to host a good game. It was rare, for me, in GR1 to find a game where everyone had a good connection. Having no dedicated files just means you have to have an actual gaming system set up to run the game in server mode. That's a pretty crappy way to do it now-a-days. Peer to peer blows chunks. Having server files for boxes with high bandwidth connections to host and run is the best way to host games.

but true, until clarification is reached it really doesn't matter. However, if there is no clarification before the release of the game I, and perhaps others, will be waiting to buy until we hear more about how the MP actually works. I care more about the MP than the SP, so it makes me nervous that they aren't broadcasting info about it. For the most part I've been waiting patiently, but the fact that all these previews released don't have any info on it is quite disturbing.

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