computer case question

[semperfi_bohica 0]

A few question for you experts as I am admittedly a novice at building computers. Thank you in advance for your info!

My computer dates back to 2002. I do use it for work (video editing, now going to HD editing). It would Run GRAW at low settings with its 9800 pro, 2 gig Ram and 2.4 processor…

I am going to be getting the 7900GTX , 2 gigRam and P4 3.4 or 4.2 duel core…

My questions are thus:

(1) I would like to get quietest case possible, I have narrowed it down to the Artic-cool case (only has power-supply of 450) and Antec. Which is the best case,

(2) is the 450w Artic power supply too low for my new gear demands?

(3) Off topic of gaming, but for video editing I have always used Pentium CPUs, anyone out there driving HD editing with AMD…I know Intel is over priced, but for my requirements I am a Intel slave needlessly so???

Thanks again.

[GhostSniper 0]

A few question for you experts as I am admittedly a novice at building computers.  Thank you in advance for your info!

My computer dates back to 2002.  I do use it for work (video editing, now going to HD editing). It would Run GRAW at low settings with its 9800 pro, 2 gig Ram and 2.4 processor…

I am going to be getting the 7900GTX , 2 gigRam and P4 3.4 or 4.2 duel core…

My questions are thus:

(1)  I would like to get quietest case possible, I have narrowed it down to the Artic-cool case (only has power-supply of 450)  and Antec.  Which is the best case,

(2) is the 450w Artic power supply too low for my new gear demands?

(3) Off topic of gaming, but for video editing I have always used Pentium CPUs, anyone out there driving HD editing with AMD…I know Intel is over priced, but for my requirements I am a Intel slave needlessly so???

Thanks again.

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Well i do know that the antec p180 is a one of the best cases out their and is very reasonably priced. I would suggest you buy your own psu from seasonic, tagan or antec as these are very good and will last a long time. Intel processors have never been very good for gaming but are better for video encoding on average than amd... Things might change by the end of this in regard though........

Respect the GRIN

[Rocky 1,224]

For video editing benchmarks show the Intel's are better than AMDs, overall.

For your PSU that wattage will be fine assuming you are not packing 4 HDs into that case. Mind you, I am doing that with a 370watt LOL!. So yeh, you should be fine.

[semperfi_bohica 0]

thanks to both of you...Rocky actually I am going to have nearly a tera-byte, I'm not upgrading my HD's as they are fine and need to save money on some items, and since they work, no through put issues, why replace?

So do you still think the Artic-Cool ps will do the job?

[MajorPlayer 0]

Next time i build a rig, im going with AMD.

Intel runs too hot. I have a Prescott 3.2 and it idles at over 50C and gets up to 75C when gaming. I always have to make sure my heatsink is clean otherwise it will overheat. So far its done this twice and my mobo has had to shutdown the pc.

While were discussing this does anyone know of a Socket 478 MOBO with PCI Express? Do they exist?

[Brettzies 0]

Silverstone Review

I think these are suppose to be pretty quiet. Falcon Northwest uses some type of SilverStone case for some of their systems.

Silverstone Home

[CrowmanUK 0]

I've got an Antec P180 and it comes with 3 tri cool 120mm fans, they've got controllers with 3 settings on, I'm running them at medium at the moment, the cpu has a 120mm fan on it and its very very quiet, if you put it on low you can hardly hear it, the beauty of the 120mm fans is they only need to run slow to move a large volume of air compared to a 90mm fan. One thing to remember is they dont come with a power supply though.

[Cpl Ledanek 247]

I got this Thermaltake Tsunami but its a mid case. Sometimes I forget its there, eventhough it sits on top of the desk vs underneath.

Plus this Silverstone Zeus ST56ZF

I'm a cheap AMD guys so I can't help you on the Pentium topic.

Sorry there Devil Dog.

[Logos 0]

While were discussing this does anyone know of a Socket 478 MOBO with PCI Express? Do they exist?

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I know of one: MSI Speedster-FA4R w/915GM.

But you don't want it. It will limit you 533MHz fronstide bus and DDR333, AND it only has two memory slots.

[Logos 0]

A few question for you experts as I am admittedly a novice at building computers.  Thank you in advance for your info!

My computer dates back to 2002.  I do use it for work (video editing, now going to HD editing). It would Run GRAW at low settings with its 9800 pro, 2 gig Ram and 2.4 processor…

I am going to be getting the 7900GTX , 2 gigRam and P4 3.4 or 4.2 duel core…

My questions are thus:

(1)  I would like to get quietest case possible, I have narrowed it down to the Artic-cool case (only has power-supply of 450)  and Antec.  Which is the best case,

(2) is the 450w Artic power supply too low for my new gear demands?

(3) Off topic of gaming, but for video editing I have always used Pentium CPUs, anyone out there driving HD editing with AMD…I know Intel is over priced, but for my requirements I am a Intel slave needlessly so???

Thanks again.

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You're going to need a new motherboard as well because your current one isn't going to take the 7900GTX or those processors. Which also means the memory will be new since the new mobo will need DDR2.

As far as the power supply goes, it sounds like it's at the low side of what you need. Also, make sure that PSU has a 24-pin connector. If its main connectory is a 20-pin, you definitely want something else.

As far as the Arctic-cool case, it would be helpful if you gave the model number or (better yet) a link to it so we know what case and PSU you're talking about specifically.

As far as Intel/AMD, Intel does do media encoding a bit better than AMD, but ask yourself what's more important -- time or performance. It's not like Intel produces better looking video than AMD; it's just that Intel will render the video faster, so it saves you time. On the other hand, when it comes to games, you're not talking about saving time; you're talking about game performance. Many would say they would rather save the time on video than get the extra frames per second in a game. I wouldn't. I would if it were my job and those seconds/minutes meant something, but it's not my job. It comes down to preference. Much like dual-core, the question is: Do you want to spend the $$$ for a few seconds here and there? If you do, spend it; if you don't, don't.

Now, all that said, I wouldn't build a new system today. I would wait until August.

Intel's Conroe chip, which has a completely different architecture than previous chips, is supposed to come out in July, and it looks like it will put Intel back on top in all applications, with the 2.66GHz Conroe chip running F.E.A.R. 20% faster than an AMD FX-60 (2.8GHz). That's a big performance advantage in an arena that AMD has owned for years, and with a proc that will cost half of what the FX-60 costs.

Intel is going for the throat.

[element11 0]

A few question for you experts as I am admittedly a novice at building computers.  Thank you in advance for your info!

My computer dates back to 2002.  I do use it for work (video editing, now going to HD editing). It would Run GRAW at low settings with its 9800 pro, 2 gig Ram and 2.4 processor…

I am going to be getting the 7900GTX , 2 gigRam and P4 3.4 or 4.2 duel core…

My questions are thus:

(1)  I would like to get quietest case possible, I have narrowed it down to the Artic-cool case (only has power-supply of 450)   and Antec.  Which is the best case,

(2) is the 450w Artic power supply too low for my new gear demands?

(3) Off topic of gaming, but for video editing I have always used Pentium CPUs, anyone out there driving HD editing with AMD…I know Intel is over priced, but for my requirements I am a Intel slave needlessly so???

Thanks again.

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1) I would go with the artic cool.

2) 450W should run everything great. If you dont have enough power, you will notice that mid game, your computer will hang. Usually wont happen when your using the internet, but most of the time will happen whe your video card is really sucking the juice. 450W will run it fine. I got a 300W PSU and im running amd athalon 64 3700+, 6800 Ultra, 2 gig RAM.

3) for video editing I would definately go for a pentium. AMD dual core might give you some good performance, but for a video/photo/3d editing computer I would go with at least a 3.2 Ghz pentum 4. If you want a gaming system, I would go with the best single core AMD you can buy though. My last 2 PC's were an intel pentuium 3 600Mhz and a P4 1.5ghz, had no problems until they started getting outdated.

Also if you plan on buying a new PSU, make sure you get one with the CSA approved sticker. Its worth paying a few extra dolars.

Edited April 17, 2006 by element11

[KRP 56 92]

Intel runs too hot. I have a Prescott 3.2 and it idles at over 50C and gets up to 75C when gaming. I always have to make sure my heatsink is clean otherwise it will overheat. So far its done this twice and my mobo has had to shutdown the pc.

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Had same problem with a 3.6 Prescott but a quick order from Newegg of a Zalman cpu cooler nipped that problem in the backside.

[semperfi_bohica 0]

I got this Thermaltake Tsunami but its a mid case.  Sometimes I forget its there, eventhough it sits on top of the desk vs underneath.

Plus this Silverstone Zeus ST56ZF

I'm a cheap AMD guys so I can't help you on the Pentium topic.

Sorry there Devil Dog.

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thank you my brother in arms!

And thanks to all who replied, I really appreciate your insight!!! Look forward to seeing on www.thecombatzone.net!!!

Edited April 17, 2006 by semperfi_bohica

[Cpl Ledanek 247]

Antec P150 Quiet PC Case and Neo HE 430W PSU Review by PC Perspective

Strengths:

·        Very good build quality – solid construction

·        Elegantly simple styling with clean lines

·        Very quiet – lives up to the Quiet White name

·        Stable, quiet power supply

·        Excellent case cooling

·        3-Speed TriCool 120mm cooling fan included

·        HDD suspension system

·        Pre-installed sound-deadening material

·        Front mounted controls and I/O connectors

Weaknesses:

·        A little cramped inside for those who like to constantly tinker…

hope this helps other ppl looking for a case

[CR6 0]

I just help build a rig using a piano black Antec Sonata case that is built for silence - cushions for HDs, large 180mm fan etc. The newest ones come with an Antec 450W PSU - although it's not a high end Antec PSU, it's good quality.

The current Prescotts run cooler than even 1 year ago as they had a die shrink and use SpeedStep tech to run cooler when not under heavy load.

I agree with Logos that it's best to hold off building an Intel system til the new Conroe chips come out.

Currently, your best bet is an AMD64 X2 CPU, as the Intel dual-core chips are a last minute rush job to catch up with AMD and have a very poor in-efficient architecture.

In the end, your PSU fan doesn't make much noise - most of your noise is from your CPU fan.

[CrowmanUK 0]

And if you use a 120mm fan bolted to one of these

http://www.systemcooling.com/thermalright_si-120-01.html

it'll be cool and quiet, much more so than with a standard heatsink and fan, this took 10 degrees off my idling temp on a 64bit 3700 cpu, idles around 33 degrees now with all fans on medium in the case, very rarely gets above 40 degrees C no matter what its running. What I like about the antec p-180 is the power supply is in a separate compartment to the motherboard with its own 120mm fan and the hard drives have a 120mm fan cooling them as well, the fan inlets all have filters too so dusting is reduced to a minimum, just keep the filters clean and you're laughing.

[SealTeam6 0]

Antec P180 - just transfered my rig into it and the temps are fantastic.

Edited April 24, 2006 by SealTeam6

[WhiteKnight77 1]