Kamakazi Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Now that you say something about it, I think there have been two "Ages" to Total War games, The Sprite Era (Shogun and Medieval) and the 3D Era (Rome and Medieval 2). Personally I'm not a huge fan of the 3D strategy map employed in Rome and M2. May be old school but it just seems to cluttered, can't go wrong with a nice flat map and little pieces to move around like in Medieval 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 (edited) Well the 3D map has a bit more depth than the 2D and it also contains more than 10 000 maps (!) About the units, isn't the chaotic feeling with not seeing you're own units a good and authentic thing? I thought medieval wars where chaotic so I only see this as a good feature I really like the new individual fighting, even tho it looks a bit Hollywood-ich some times with the "spinning-move" and the "headbutt" Oh, is the video. Edited October 29, 2006 by Hockeystick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 Its looks more authentic don't get me wrong, but I like to be able to see how things are going, and I really can't. Yes the individual fighting is interesting to say the least. Some of the things those guys do just kill me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Well, it should be released here in the US in about a half hour. I'm staying up late in order to head over to Walmart and pick it up here soon. Just installed the latest Nvidia graphics drivers and I'm all set to install. I won a $20 gift card to Walmart for getting 2nd place in an intramural badminton tournament here last weekend. Of course, only myself and one other guy showed up but hey, I'll take the prize! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Got the game today. Great game people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 Argh. So I went last night, no game. I called this morning to Walmart and BestBuy... no game. I'll try later tonight. *sigh* How is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Still no game at either store... this is crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Argh. So I went last night, no game. I called this morning to Walmart and BestBuy... no game. I'll try later tonight. *sigh* How is it? It's not a big leap towards Rome, but that was quite expected. Great game tho You get pretty much everything from Rome in a different package. Better graphics and some improved AI but no big difference really. My favorite feature right now is the animations and the graphics. The cavalry moves very smooth and realistic. I do know about two annoying things in the game (bugs I guess). - Incredible poor pathfinding in cities. - Cavalry stops right infront of enemies when charging (known bug) A patch will be released when the US version of the game is released. So it has been said anyway. Overall: 8/10 Edited November 15, 2006 by Hockeystick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yaaaa! A quick call and drive up to BestBuy and I'm now installing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Ok, just watched the official forums and the patch has been dealayed They are a few days behind schedule so the patch will be released in about 2-3 weeks. Link Edited November 15, 2006 by Hockeystick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Sweet. I got my cardinal elected to the position of Pope just now. Gotta read the manual and figure out how to use this to my advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Read the manual? Who does such things, its blasphemy. Still trying to scrape together $50 for this, but I think I will wait a few weeks until I go home for Christmas Break, that way I actually have time to play it. Also want to get Rainbow Six: Vegas, and that will probably come first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Read the manual? Who does such things, its blasphemy. No pun intended right? I just beat a short campaign as the English. I defeated the Scottish and the French. I got lucky because once the French were the only ones left, when I attacked they got excommunicated so I ordered a Crusade on one of their cities... Man, the English Longbowman are sweet. I had a huge army of 6 longbows, a small group of armored cavalry, and tons of dismounted knights with heavy armor. I attacked a large force of mostly spearmen so it wasn't a big deal but they had lots of units. Taking the high ground and watching all my longbows fire flaming arrows into the enemy ranks.... priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I love playing at the English, that and the Danes are my two favortes in the first one. Longbow are amazing. As for that pun, well that is interesting with how I put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I'm playing as the English and they are great! Love their longbowmens. To bad the Danes have Russian accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wille Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I'm playing as the English and they are great! Love their longbowmens. To bad the Danes have Russian accent whats even worse is that they left us swedes out of the game completley!! however, since they have the danes I can get revenge against our danish animator for what the danes did to us during stockholms bloodbath! hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Lol, I was just playing Medieval 2 and watching TV and I saw an advertisement for the game. Pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I've been continuing my game with the English. I am basically, the most powerful nation. Sometimes the Byzantines or Mongols surpass me but not often. There's been a desperate struggle for northern Italy. I've been at war with the Milanese for a very long time now. They wanted a cease fire which I gave them under the condition that they give me money. Then, I built up my forces and launched multiple attacks on their cities. They have quite a few cities though and they must be loaded with money because their units are all very expensive. Milanese crossbowmen and trebuchets are about the only thing in their armies which meant I had to switch tactics completely from heavy infantry and longbows to just cavalry. I learned this the hard way when they decimated one of my armies. A few recent strings of victories should help pave the way for me to conquer the rest of their cities. The Danes have been a problem too. They suddenly attacked me while I was at war with the Milanese. Bad timing. I was able to win the battle and had enough troops to attack a close city. I took it but then they attacked back and were able to recapture it because I was dumb and clicked autocalc thinking I would win. I haven't gotten to the new world yet but I think I'll be getting close to unlocking it here in another few years. Maybe some Aztec gold will help me in the conquests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 I'm pretty disappointed of the AI right now. At almost every siege they put one ladder on tha wall then all fu***** infantry tries to climb up. I get maybe 1-2 FPS so the game gets pretty much unplayable. This must be fixed in the patch, seriously. Another AI problem is the Pope. France attacked me but the pope did nothing. France dind't even get excommunicated and after a few turns the pope demands ME to stop fighting the French. Hello?! they attacked me first!! Anyway, I was then attacked by Scotland and after a few turns the pope damended me to stop fighting them, BUT, then I was attacked by Scotland again and they didn't get excommunicated. I couldn't defend myself either with a nearby army since the pope-mission of not fighting Scotland still had 4 turns left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly2442 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Yeah, the siege issue is a known bug. I hope they release a patch soon. If they could fix some of these minor but annoying issues I think the game would be a lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Commando Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Waiting on my new DVD drive to get here then this baby's gettin installed. Can't wait to take on the Turks in the Holy Land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamakazi Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Yeah been playing it for two days now. Had to restart my campaign twice, this is kicking my bum pretty good, that is of course a good thing. In this one it seems things that havent been nearly as important in previous installments like the pope and public happiness (which I found very easy to manipulate) now kick my bum. But my longbowmen are as of right now kicking some French bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calius Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I just got this .. and its superb. I havent realy got into the world of Strategy type game such as this and Im hooked. Im using an ATI 9800Pro 128MB ... set to shader 1, no shadows, high textrures, high models, high effects, medium grass, AA x2 at 1600x1200 it runs pretty well, I turn AA off on larger battles but its far more FPS friendly without much eye candy loss than I thought it was going to be Audio is great too on this game. Im a bit lost with campaigns so its slow steps, this is perfect for those darker evenings and cold nights Also I couldnt run the demo (althon XP) ... so I just took a gamble with posts here and forum reviews and it was a good descision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeystick Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Here is the fix-list from the upcomming patch. Medieval 2:Total War Update 1 Major Fixes ======== -Fix crash in Deathtrack MP map with empty Team 3 slot -Fixed Battle AI - armies not engaging enemies at close range. -Fixed CTD when client attempts to join game that the host is ending. -Fixed instances when A.I is passive on the campaign map and lets the user win on a campaign battle when stuck in-front of open gates. -Fixed loop between the windows for 'Possible Connection Problems' and 'Really Quit?' -Fixed AI: Calvary not charging a spearmen army in a Custom Battle. -Fixed cavalry not attacking - instances when AI sieges a town with infantry and Calvary, if the infantry die and rout and the player still holds the city, the cavalry do not attack nor rout. -Fixed passive Siege Attack AI -Fixed Timurids crash (related to elephant artillery not having enough riders, CTD when trying to shoot) -Fixed Siege Attack AI trying to attack the back of settlements. -Fixed Passive attack AI -Fixed Cavalry charge consistency and power. (Still raise and lower lances occasionally) Added ModTool Unpacker -Fixed Crash - Auto resolving a siege battle on Gaza and repeatedly Right - Clicking the settlement -Fixed Merchant Resource value dropping after load/save -Fixed CTD caused by Turks AI -Fixed Cavalry not flanking spear walls -Fixed AI not crossing river to attack (River Jordan) -Reduced the effect of morale - enemy AI does not rout so easily -Reduced the power of inquisitors -Fixed 'move to point' crash -MP Multinational support -Fixed Cavalry sallying out and not attacking (bunching at corner of settlement) Medium Level Fixes ============= -Fix construction crash when converting settlements when buildings relating to initial settlement existed in construction queue. -Fixed Settlement still showing as under siege even though sieging army had been defeated. -Fixed repeating missions -Fixed indecisive infantry / broken formation (when ordered to a location they would head in the wrong direction first) -Fixed being able to open gates with siege towers or embed them in walls -Fixed victory video not always appearing -Diplomacy - AI no longer counters an open proposition with a gift. -Fixed deployment lines being rendered incorrectly around ambient buildings -Fixed Enemy units remain stationary with flags flashing when ladders are thrown off a destroyed wall in a siege. -Fixed the carroccio standard not fitting through gates -Fixed gunpowder units being stuck reforming -Fixed trebuchets disappearing and reappearing when zooming -Tweaked morale system -Partially fixed units moving through settlement buildings. -Units now check if destination is in a building or not. -Enabled command-line switch to allow unlimited soldiers (removes message) -Fixed MP player-names being lost on battle results screen if they quit the battle early -Fixed the ability for a user to 'buff' their assassin experience by continually assassinating different captains Other Fixes ======== -Fix difficulty level in MP (Affects Morale). Previously defaulting to Normal. -Fix lobby tooltip that showed incorrect unit sizes. -Fix Florins display during diplomacy -Fix Money field looping into negative/positive value when removing / adding money -Fix overlapping and incorrectly sized deployment zones -Fixed cut-off graphics in civil disorder message -Fixed unclear 'Start Diplomacy' button functionality -Fixed MP Admit Defeat button functionality -Fixed missions showing as expired even though they have been completed -Fixed mouse-overs showing incorrect diplomatic information -Fixed minor FE Historical Battle error (shield remaining highlighted) -Fixed MP team chat - colours now match recipient and sender. -Fixed minor audio issue - Audio: Campaign Map when an English Spy is ordered to join an English army he triggers two "Joins_Army" speeches. -Fixed minor audio issue - Campaign Map when an English Merchant is ordered to disembark a boat, two "Movement_Disembark" speeches are triggered. -Fixed Mine income -Fixed MP ignore/ban toggle permanently banning player from chat -Fixed - Making an offer gives a blank scroll on the Diplomacy Scroll, but removing the offer gives the player help text -Fixed Mouse Cursor not updating when over certain parts of the UI. -Fixed miscalculation of some naval unit movement points. -Fixed units not leaving an army when ordered to abandon it. -Fixed 'Possible Connection Problems' message not appearing if user alt-tabs -Fixed On campaign map, castles appear under 'town' or 'city' title on UI -Fixed Reinforcements box remains greyed when the user deselects 'Attempt a night battle' -Fixed double speed on units that should only go at one speed. -Fixed Stakes not appearing correctly in weather conditions -Fixed non-functional help button on ransom scrolls -Fixed intro movies playing at x3 speed in Historical battles -Fixed transfer army functionality - When transferring men the transfer resets after viewing the description -Fixed Gunpowder units running forward when given targets. -Fixed clumping units when they are told to do a 180 degree turn -Fixed stuck Camera issues -Fixed Fleeing units rallying at breached walls or gates of settlements they are attacking when they should not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calius Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Yes at least thats out soon for christmas. I was PMing another member about this but I think they are killig off the battle bugs first so's not to effect campaign / saves .. then in feb with the second update they will look at the Dimplomacy & campaign quirks. So far due to this and learning the game I havent taken campaigns too far, I have realy been playing custom battles and getting used to that side of it. So I see the flaws & bugs and this update will be good. I did notice that the siege towers AI bunching / Slide Show FPS thing wasnt listed. Im wondering if through other AI tweaks that has been dealt with as if it wasnt something needed to be directly fixed ref seige towers? Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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