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thanks connie. I think my worries were warranted after all. A computer game shouldn't be a forum for a political,social or sexual oriented group.

The lady in the article seems to be only concerned with making some lavish political statement and creating havoc and chaos in a world where others want to ecape from sometimes.

perhaps gays and lebians don't intend to entice kids or whatever, but i lock my doors so people can't get in my house. If I took the advice of a few here, based on what they are telling me, I'd have to close the door but keep it unlocked.

Blizzard closed a door and locked it before anything crazy ensues.

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... just because someone is gay doesn't mean they are perverted... Now, on the actual topic, yes, Blizzard are correct to do this if its against the Agreement Terms things. But children don't need to be 'protected' from homosexuality like large numbers of people seem to believe.

IMHO...

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Then you need to read This

How many studies and articles woud you like me to find that say the exapt opposite?

Anyway. What keeps coming up is the claim that Blizzard's singling out Homosexual groups. They're not; their terms of agreement say you can't form a Christian group either, or anything.

(Even from that skewed article, read this:

·  Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.

Two thirds of Pedophiles aren't Homosexual even by THAT view of reality. Sounds like your kids are in far more danger than you figured.)

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Oh Lord, that article is terrifyingly funny.

I especially like the sentence about (paraphrasing) 'homosexuals by definition being attracted to members of the same gender'. I think that's a quiet classic. You may as well write that straight women are a danger to young boys because they're attracted to males.

Tsch. 'Homosexuals are SO gay'.

I think it's fairly obvious to say that some gay and lesbian people are, sadly, paedophiles. But no more or less obvious than saying that some straight people are, too. In my wide reading around the subject during my degree, though, I think the most frightening and pertinent thing to remember is that most children are abused by a family member or a family friend, simply because it's such people that have ready and private access to vulnerable children. And that most of these people identify and are recognised as being 'straight', although that's not a very useful definition of people's behaviour. You might also consider, for a minute, the proportion of the market dedicated to 'just legal' pornography - a product aimed squarely at the straight male population.

I don't think there's ever been any valid, unbiased survey that has found evidence that a higher proportion of LGBT people are perpetrators of abuse than straight people are. Minorites have always been accused of a larger proportion of real or fictional crimes throughout history than they have in reality been guilty of. One example would be the trend even in the early 20th century to quite seriously suggest that Jewish communities regularly sacrificed Christian children.

In a significantly enlightened world, unafraid of witches, spirits and - for the most part - divine wrath, the unfounded linking of homosexuality to paedophilia is one of the few remaining ways to keep a proportion of straight people afraid of LGBT people, and therefore is a way to indirectly influence a proportion of the political and religious behaviour of a citizenry. The reality is, of course, that there simply aren't enough LGBT people in the world to destabilise 'family values'. It's just a nice threat to use whenever there aren't enough people in mosques, churches, synagogues or temples. Or when you need a vote.

It's a neat trick, I have to admit.

And yes, I am a dyke.

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I'm gonna let the band Behind Enemy Lines do the talking for me (they are on the opposite side of this song's "arguments"):

Behind Enemy Lines - The Cure

To all of you sexual deviants that have perversely lost your way

To all of you with loved ones that have been immorally led astray

Fear no more, have faith in us, gods soldiers are here to appease

We’ll save you from immorality by helping to rid you of this horrid disease

Bring the gays, the lesbians and bisexuals- we’ve got the cure

Bring the queers, the transsexuals, and transgendereds- we’ve got the cure

Bring the sinful, bring the immoral, bring the sick- we’ve got the cure

Change your ways, ignore your instincts, repress your feelings- sin no more

This disease can now be treated with god’s help these sinners can be cured

And traditional Christian gender roles can be forcibly restored

But just like with alcoholics, all of our efforts can’t succeed

If they’d rather live in denial and refuse to get the help they need

Bring the gays, the lesbians and bisexuals- we’ve got the cure

Bring the queers, the transsexuals, and transgendereds- we’ve got the cure

Bring the sinful, bring the immoral, bring the sick- we’ve got the cure

Change your ways, ignore your instincts, repress your feelings- sin no more

People are not born this way like these gay rights activists suggest

We’ve conducted our own “impartial†studies and have determined that we’re correct

It’s an unnatural, corrupt behavior that threatens spirituality and health

We can cure these sexual deviants if they’re willing to help themselves

Bring the gays, the lesbians and bisexuals- we’ve got the cure

Bring the queers, the transsexuals, and transgendereds- we’ve got the cure

Bring the sinful, bring the immoral, bring the sick- we’ve got the cure

Change your ways, ignore your instincts, repress your feelings- sin no more

Sound familiar?

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I tell you what...You CAN find any amount of articles to dispute this. but I'd trust the findongs of a doctor who's been backed by dollars to do indepth studies in a subject.

Remeber, the gentleman whom I posted the link to his study is in fact a PHD. I hardly would think that I, or anyone else would be willing to sacrifice thier career on a untrue subject.

But you present another problem. not to liken you unto a child mind you, but merely for referential sake, when I tell my kids NOT to do something say, because it is hot, kids will inevitably touch anyway. But it is MY job to enrich my kids lives by showing them what is morally right. you may say, well you can't or shouldn't teach your morals onto your kids. yes I should. I don't respect someone else trying to tell me how to raise my kids. that's half of the problem of society today, everyone else always has a better way to teach your kids.Half of these arses have no kids themselves. but these idiots who've never had kids have no clue as to what's right. Why? because some lady here read books for 4-8 or 16 years, gets a degree and now she's an expert.

Here's some stats on sex crimes as per recorded by the US DOJ. to quote a snippet of interest from same article,

Data from police-recorded incidents of rape

in three states showed that 44 percent of rape

victims were younger than 18 years old, and

two-thirds of violent sex offenders serving time

in state prisons said their victims were younger

than 18.  An estimated 15 percent of imprisoned

rapists and 45 percent of those sentenced to

prison for other sexual assaults (statutory rape,

forcible sodomy and molestation) said their

victims were 12 years old or younger.

This is data from just 3 states! So yes, it is a problem.So we CAN say safely that police records support this fact of children being in dire trouble. this is also from US DOJ's website

Child victimizers

    * Approximately 4,300 child molesters were released from prisons in 15 States in 1994. An estimated 3.3% of these 4,300 were rearrested for another sex crime against a child within 3 years of release from prison.

    * Among child molesters released from prison in 1994, 60% had been in prison for molesting a child 13 years old or younger.

    * Offenders who had victimized a child were on average 5 years older than the violent offenders who had committed their crimes against adults. Nearly 25% of child victimizers were age 40 or older, but about 10% of the inmates with adult victims fell in that age range.

So yes this is a problem..but I'd hoped you would've known this as a problem mixed with the fact that you are seeing an ever increasing amount of sex crimes against kids in the News, newspapers and the internet.

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Remeber, the gentleman whom I posted the link to his study is in fact a PHD. I hardly would think that I, or anyone else would be willing to sacrifice thier career on a untrue subject.

Do you think the PHDs who claim the exact opposite as him are somehow different. :blink:

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yep.

Ah, so now your argument makes so much sense! Only people on your side have any authority, whereas no matter what evidence provided to the contrary, it will be instantly dismissed because it offends your viewpoint. Now, see, we all live in a society which is supposed to be open and free etc, and everyone should be able to live their lives how they wish. Now, I did History in school, and according to pretty much all textbooks (unless these are all invalidated by your argument) agree that the United States of America was founded by peoples fleeing persecution, prejudice and general trouble with kings, governments, unfair systems and religious nuts, such as Puritanical Regime at the time here in the UK, they were joined as well by those who wanted said freedom to live how they wished. Personally, I agree with them - people should be able to live however they wish as long as they don't cause anyone harm. I know plenty of homosexuals and not one of them has ever caused anyone any problems, and personally I don't care who or what their partners are, so whats the problem with them? Like we've already shown, 2/3rds of pedophiles are hetrosexual, so why don't we go out preach against them? When was the last time a group of militant gays murdered a straight person because of his sexuality?! Why can't they just be left to get on with their lives? As for the Churches moral laws, what if these people don't care about that, or belong to another Church? Are they not thereby exempt from those moral laws? And therefore should be free from attack by people who are? Basically, live your own life, and let them live theirs.

note - I think this argument is getting a bit silly now, and probably doesn't belong on these boards. If anyone wants to continue with it, please PM me.

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Rocky, go ahead and lock this.

What I've learned; 1) never to discuss religion 2)never discuss politcal issues.

I'm after the MPAA issue. they are being investigated for illegally copying a DVD from the sundance film festival

pwned!

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I don't think I need a 'before lock' post, since I've been contributing to this thread's descent the whole time. :rofl:

I can't think of how to address the fact that a man or woman with a PHD arguing your side wouldn't lie, but an opponent would, so I'm gonna go back to the general issue.

What would solve these problems for everyone would be if we just kept Homosexuals separate from other people.

I can't think of the word... Something with an 'S'.

They could ride in different parts of buses, drink at different water fountains, go to different schools; that way, every parent could keep their kids from being exposed to things they don't like.

However, that doesn't really help 'every parent'... Why stop at only those who dislike Homosexuality?

Jews could have their own things too. Muslims. Christians. Atheists. Asians. Immigrants. Native Americans. Actually, people of any descent. Let's trace it by family!

Of course, we wouldn't segregate (There's the word!) black people. That'd be wrong; we've made great strides since America did that. :thumbsup:

EDIT: I do, however, in all seriousness, repsect that you're taking such an active role in parenting your kids.

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Rocky, go ahead and lock this.

What I've learned; 1) never to discuss religion 2)never discuss politcal issues.

I'm after the MPAA issue. they are being investigated for illegally copying a DVD from the sundance film festival

pwned!

that old news...where do you think the copying began :rofl: back then its called networking! and it was on VHS, ack!

to parents also: Xbox live has been a portal for pedophiles. Last week an older man was caught soliciting to what he thought was a teenager---it was actually a vice cop.

Thanks for those Xbox live headphones with mic.

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I think the point of those official government statistics is that there is a much higher percentage of pedophiles among gays, way out of proportion to the "straight" population.

I agree with you about the word "straight", it's better expressed as normal, as opposed to abnormal. As in abnormal psychology?

What purpose would there be in having an all-gay gaming team if sex has nothing to do with the game?

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in before the lock

free pst 2

LOL! You've been around too long Prozac.

Excuse my daftness, but I don't understand/get this? Could someone pls explain? I h-a-t-e missin' a joke! :blush:

Post count goes up everypost you make.

Im +4 now in this thread awsome! :rofl:

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