FIRE_WIRE 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Im so confused Is this card better than the 4600? I just see this card around for like $200 bucks and i still see the 4600 for $300, so whats the deal?!? Is this card worth a buy? I was looking at the benchmarks over at toms hardware and on most of the tests show that it can hang pretty well....anyway im just curious Heres the link to the benchmarks over at Toms Hardware Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 The difference between the 4600 and the 4800 is that the later is at AGP 8X Transfer Rate. Same core, same memory, same stuff...just an excuse to get more money through a release of the 8X version. If you want an 8X card, I'd opt for a 9700Pro. The core and memory are even better than the 4600. Otherwise, I'd wait for the 4600 to come down it price, and it will, after the FX is released. About Tom's, just be careful what you believe...that's all I'm going to say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Just so ya know you can get a good 4600 for $200 legally of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 If you want an 8X card, I'd opt for a 9700Pro. The core and memory are even better than the 4600. That's an understatement The 9700s should be cheap when the 9800 arrives this month and in April, so hold tight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FIRE_WIRE 0 Posted March 18, 2003 Author Share Posted March 18, 2003 The 9700s should be cheap when the 9800 arrives this month and in April, so hold tight. I just didnt think that going ATI is a good idea.... I mean i know its a great performing card and all ive just heard a lot of stories about driver issuse, and thats something that would bug the crap out of me! Where as i know nvidia drivers are solid and i would never have to worry about a game not being compatible!! Anyway im just looking for something to spend my big income tax return on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor9 0 Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 I have a 9700 Pro and it runs rock solid, Drivers and all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GP_Joltin_Joe 0 Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 (edited) If you want an 8X card, I'd opt for a 9700Pro. The core and memory are even better than the 4600. Of course, you'd need a motherboard with an 8x AGP slot to take full advantage of the card. I think most new motherboards still only have up to 4x slots. But, I think you can use an 8x card in a 4x slot, the card will throttle itself back a little. Edited March 18, 2003 by GP_Joltin_Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteKnight77 1 Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 My ASUS A7N8X is a 8x AGP board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GP_Joltin_Joe 0 Posted March 18, 2003 Share Posted March 18, 2003 (edited) My ASUS A7N8X is a 8x AGP board. Cool! I have not experienced 8x. I bet it's awesome! Doesn't that one also do serial ATA? I'm jealous. Edited March 19, 2003 by GP_Joltin_Joe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 8x AGP isnt even fully utilized yet. The benches I've seen arent even that good for many cards they claim to be oh so much better with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteKnight77 1 Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 Yes my mobo has SATA too. I don't have any SATA drives or an 8x AGP vid card so I can't tell you how well they work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Ranger 0 Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 My next vid card will either be an 9700PRO or a *cough-9800PRO w/256MB Ram-cough*. That one is also 8X. And yes, Stinger is right about the 8X not being fully utillized. However, MOST boards released within the past 3 or so months are 8X enabled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stinger 0 Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 *Thread Hijack* Anybody know whats to come after AGP 8x? We continuing the trend to AGP 16x or another slot coming out like SuperAdvancedGraphicsPort? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 (edited) After AGP8x comes the new PCI bus, which is actually faster/more bandwidth than current AGP slots. So who knows... in the next few years, AGP cards maybe a thing of the past and we'll all be back to using PCI cards Fire_Wire, I believe both are about equal on driver stability. People have problems with both, people have success with both. As for me, I have success; not one driver stability problem to this date. Now, early 9700Pro cards made by Ati had problems with 8x AGP slots cause mobo manufacturers a.k.a. VIA, didn't follow specs for the 8x AGP like they were supposed to. But any purchase made today, NIB, should net one of the latter revisions and you'll be fine. 8x works in 4x AGP slots, barely any performance loss. If you can notice it, you must be special. Edited March 20, 2003 by RooK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Urban_Tiger 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 (edited) Have a look at my signature for rough sys specs...... Anyway, the board and card listed both run at AGP x8 and it recently benchmarked with 3DMark 2001 Pro at 13,657 and stunned the hell outta me!! Admittedly that was with a couple of settings tweaked down but only a couple, if I whack them all right up then it scores around 12,800 everytime ! No complaints here lol ! I was used to averaging about 4000 on an Elsa Gladiac Ti516 64mb at AGP x4 also using 3DMark 2001 Pro, so the difference is certainly worth the change and the 4800 is ultimately gonna be better than the 4200 too (or at least it should be depending on ya system anyway lol) ! Edited March 21, 2003 by Urban_Tiger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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