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Get full service for your PC

Windows Live Safety Center is a new, free service designed to help ensure the health of your PC.

Check for and remove viruses

Learn about threats

Improve your PC's performance

Get rid of junk on your hard disk

Use the full service scan to check everything, or turn to the scanners and information in the service centers to meet your specific needs.

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It may be a good tool, but it forces you to use IE, and let it install ActiveX controls to run it.

Why can't saomeone come up with stuff that dsoesn't require use of that insecure POS browser? I hat negating security settings that keep crap off my system just to run something like this.

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@Specter, pls excuse my stupidity, but what is "IE" & is it bad to let the tool install ActiveX controls to run it? So, do you recommend not to use this tool? I, too, hate all the supposedly helpful security stuff... usually find that it is NOT very easy-to-use & also often seems to slowdown my rig? Tks.

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I usually find that the free tools such as this one are usually free for a reason.

The best tool to keep your computer secure and clean is common sense.

If you do need additional help, I recommend SpyBot: Search and Destroy, SpywareBlaster and AdAware SE.

I don't use any of this diagnostic stuff like this thing here. I usually load them up when someone posts a link to them, just to see if they are worth anything, and find that most times they aren't, or there are hidden catches, or like you said, they are hard to use.

I don't even use Anti-virus software. I have Spyware Blaster protecting my browsers, and all ActiveX in IE turned off. Hell, I don't even use IE anymore. Haven't for over a year now.

I have a router with NAT, and that's about it.

I have pretty much found that the 3 anti-spyware tools listed above take care of every security issue I have or anticipate.

Alot of these tools are just to sucker people into spending money.

I know alot of people that use software firewalls, anti-virus, anti-spyware proggies out the butt, and they still get into trouble, mostly because as fast as these companies turn them out, someone else figures a way around them.

Security is the new buzzword in the industry, and since most home users and gamers really don't understand what the best way to secure your machine is, they run out and blow lots of money(money that they can use to buy games and hardware), on all of this stuff that will "supposedly" handle all their security for them.

Software firewalls and anti-virus programs need constant attention and configuring to keep up with, they can be most difficult for online gamers and web surfers alike, giving you fits when you want to install software, especially updates and such.

Most people really don't need all this crap that these companies sell. I mean think about it: If you are having that much trouble with spyware and viruses, then you are most likely bringing it on yourself with your surfing habits.

I get around to some questionable sites too, and don't have anywhere near the problems that most people with all these so called "protection" programs have.

Websites that run free games are loaded with spyware and illicit ActiveX controls. Porn sites are loaded with spyware, although SpywareBlaster blocks most of it. Serial number and warez sites are loaded with some really nasty spyware and malware.

As for viruses, the most common source of a virus is email. Particularly in Office documents form people you don't know.

If you want to protect your PC, the best way to do it is to use a littel common sense with browsing and email, and by going to the Shields up website, scanning your system for open ports, and run their tool to shut them down. Then, instead of spending a bundle on all this useless software, spend 60 bucks on a Linksys Router with NAT. IT even comes with a built in hardware firewall, over and above NAT, which for the most part will keep you away from the nasty stuff on it's own, as long as you don't DMZ your PC.

Then with the money you save, and the aggravation you save as well from not having to deal with all those resource hog utility programs, go buy some games or upgrade your hardware.

The only utility I run, aside from Spyware Blaster is Vopt7 for XP. That is an excellent NTFS defrag tool. Other than that, I run no utilities whatsoever.

Most are a waste of money. Norton Utilities and Security suites are extreme resource hogs, and a pain in the ass, McAffee is a nightmare, even for the most experienced users, and PC Cillin is pretty much ineffectual.

Common sense: It's free, and easy to use.

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Dont start Spectre up ranting about microsoft and IE, but he's right, common sense goes a long way to keeping your pc clean, I was linked to a nice little tool a few weeks back that automates downloading, installing, updating and running some of the top antivirus/spyware software out there

http://hitmanpro.nl/

the sites in hurdy gurdy language but once you download it installs in english, Run it and sit back with a cup of coffee as it sets everything up and scans your system

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Dont start Spectre up ranting about microsoft and IE, but he's right, common sense goes a long way to keeping your pc clean, I was linked to a nice little tool a few weeks back that automates downloading, installing, updating and running some of the top antivirus/spyware software out there

http://hitmanpro.nl/

the sites in hurdy gurdy language but once you download it installs in english, Run it and sit back with a cup of coffee as it sets everything up and scans your system

Who, little ol' moi? 0:):whistle::clapping::rant:

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-I usually find that the free tools such as this one are usually free for a reason.

-The best tool to keep your computer secure and clean is common sense.

-I recommend SpyBot: Search and Destroy, SpywareBlaster and AdAware SE.

-If you want to protect your PC, the best way to do it is to use a little common sense with browsing and email, and by going to the Shields up website, scanning your system for open ports, and run their tool to shut them down. Then, instead of spending a bundle on all this useless software, spend 60 bucks on a Linksys Router with NAT.  IT even comes with a built in hardware firewall, over and above NAT, which for the most part will keep you away from the nasty stuff on it's own, as long as you don't DMZ your PC.

-Common sense: It's free, and easy to use.

@Specter (& CrowmanUK) ... I recommend your posts for every person who is not expert/experienced with what all this debris software is vs. whether it's really needed... Excellent info.; Thank you for taking the time to reply w/such good details!

For me, 2 out of 3 ain't bad: I use SpyBot: S & D and SpywareBlaster.

Will check out your excellent recommendations:

AdAware SE

Vopt7 for XP (NTFS defrag tool.)

Shields Up... tried... and it IS easy-to-use/get working!

Hmm, my pal who does all my computer-stuff setups for me via "Allow Remote Access..." has been ranting at me to do exactly as you say, "Get a router w/NAT," so I think now I must surrender & do this! :rolleyes:

Umm, about the router w/NAT keeping away most nasty stuff on its own "as long as you don't DMZ your PC". Er, what does that last bit mean, please?

My 3rd safety software I run is EZ Antivirus, which replaced my NAV-Professional, mostly because NAV as you say, is resource hog, plus there's free 1-year trial for the EZ, but I actually loved NAV & never ever had any troubles w/it. It did great protections, and once setup, ran sweet, easy-to-use, etc.?

Er, as you do not use IE ( :rofl: now I know what that means), what do you use then?

Well, tks again, and @Specter... You see, your post is evidence of why I nominated you for 2005 Forum Award: "Most likely to be banned - (too smart & too much common sense shown...)" Hope you win it! :D

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Umm, about the router w/NAT keeping away most nasty stuff on its own "as long as you don't DMZ your PC".  Er, what does that last bit mean, please?

Specter is a bit of a zealot, but for all the right reasons, absolutely.

Anyway, in short answer to your question, NAT (network address translation) keeps your PC invisible to anything outside of your network, with your router being the only visible PC to the public at large.

You can open ports, and forward them through your NAT to your PC behind the firewall. This is useful if you are running a game server, or web server. You open only the ports you need, and point them to the right machine on your network.

DMZ stands for demilitarized zone. It's a military term recycled to basically mean opening your NAT routing table entirely to one PC, thus completely removing the protection the router offers. Basically, if you have a secure network, it's like dropping trou and yelling 'look at me' in a crowded room.

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DMZ stands for demilitarized zone.

Good Grief! :rofl: Tks for fast reply in layperson's language, too! Soon I will be comfortable slipping these terms into my casual, coffeeshop conversations. If doing so causes me to lose all my RL friends, well, I'll know at least I'll have still some "friends" on this forum! Er, Dannik, your post is evidence of why I nominated you for 2005 Forum Award: "Most Helpful (Informative) Poster." Hope you win it!
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Umm, about the router w/NAT keeping away most nasty stuff on its own "as long as you don't DMZ your PC".  Er, what does that last bit mean, please?

Specter is a bit of a zealot, but for all the right reasons, absolutely.

Anyway, in short answer to your question, NAT (network address translation) keeps your PC invisible to anything outside of your network, with your router being the only visible PC to the public at large.

You can open ports, and forward them through your NAT to your PC behind the firewall. This is useful if you are running a game server, or web server. You open only the ports you need, and point them to the right machine on your network.

DMZ stands for demilitarized zone. It's a military term recycled to basically mean opening your NAT routing table entirely to one PC, thus completely removing the protection the router offers. Basically, if you have a secure network, it's like dropping trou and yelling 'look at me' in a crowded room.

ZEALOT ? !

man, you guys are harsh ! !

Well, I guess I am when it comes to Winblows. But when I give advice, I try to make it as easy to use as possible.

I know I am the resident Anti-Microsoft Winblows person here, but I have been supporting Winblows since 3.11(Microsoft's last REAL Windows version), and they tend to over clutter things, and make them overly complicated to use.

Personally, I use and prefer Firefox. It's alot more secure and alot faster than IE, and doesn't utilize ActiveX at all. Opera is also good for the same reasons. I just prefer Firefox. Both alternatives offer alot more options than IE, and are less prone to spyware and other malicious browser maladies. Try one or both. You will be impressed. I have both loaded, but mainly use Opera only if I'm doing alot of simultaneous downloads.

Also, check out my performance reports on XP pinned at the top of this forum. There are alot of good performance tips in there.

One other thing: to make your PC more secure, disable Remote Access whenever you aren't having your buddy do remote work for you. It leaves a security hole open when enabled.

As for winning awards, I seriously doubt that will happen for various reasons, but thanks for the vote of confidence. :blush:

If you need anymore help, feel free to look me up. :thumbsup:

A ZEALOT? Really? :blush: I'm hurt. SNIFFFFFFFFF. :(

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A ZEALOT?  Really?  :blush:  I'm hurt.  SNIFFFFFFFFF.  :(

Sorry. I realize that there isn't really a good way of interpreting said word, but I couldn't think of a better word that means "Incredibly passionate about an aspect of a certain area of knowledge, to the point of appearing somewhat overbearing, but with the best interest in mind, despite the possibility the audience may not understand the message within reasonable context, although it would be in their best interests to learn."

:yes:

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A ZEALOT?  Really?  :blush:  I'm hurt.  SNIFFFFFFFFF.  :(

Sorry. I realize that there isn't really a good way of interpreting said word, but I couldn't think of a better word that means "Incredibly passionate about an aspect of a certain area of knowledge, to the point of appearing somewhat overbearing, but with the best interest in mind, despite the possibility the audience may not understand the message within reasonable context, although it would be in their best interests to learn."

:yes:

Nice Reply :) Passion is good.

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A ZEALOT? Really? :blush: I'm hurt. SNIFFFFFFFFF.  :(

Well, I guess I am when it comes to Winblows. But when I give advice, I try to make it as easy to use as possible.
You do a great job!
Also, check out my performance reports on XP pinned at the top of this forum.
Absolutely I will!
One other thing: to make your PC more secure, disable Remote Access whenever you aren't having your buddy do remote work for you. It leaves a security hole open when enabled.
Crap... good tip for all ...will do right away; this is one of the few tasks I can do w/no hand-holding. The other is turn machine on & off!
As for winning awards, I seriously doubt that will happen...
We'll see, we'll see... :D
If you need anymore help, feel free to look me up.....

Thanks again, Specter, er, ZEALOT or not... :wacko: ...Specter & Dannik, you guys are really very funny!
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Get full service for your PC

Windows Live Safety Center is a new, free service designed to help ensure the health of your PC.

Check for and remove viruses

Learn about threats

Improve your PC's performance

Get rid of junk on your hard disk

Use the full service scan to check everything, or turn to the scanners and information in the service centers to meet your specific needs.

Good programme.

Widows Live

:lightning:Thanks for the service information, Colin!

You can never have too much of a good thing.

:starwars:Ghost Troop, out.

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So, when are we going to get the definitive set-up?

I know everyone's got their opinions but it would be great for us pc illiterates to have a nice and easy checklist.

When I first got my pc I was downloading every free bit of security freebie, spyware, adware, virus scan, performance enhancer etc.... until my pc ran so slow it took about 5 minutes to boot up!

So, what's the recommended setup?

I did have Firefox but was worried about my memory usage, and whats the big problem with ActiveX? I haven't a clue what activex is (or are!).

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