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Yeah, i figured i would need a motherboard. I think what im going to do is just use it for a bit, and buy a whole new tower. Having to upgrade all that would be not a helluvalot cheaper than getting a new computer. Plus, then you also have a new computer!  :)

I would also need to add a dvd rom too, cause its only got a cd burner, so theres another upgrade :(

Edit: Do you need the psu to be an exact  wattage or can it be over? Would it fry anything if i got a psu that wasnt exact??

Also, what is a good amd mobo, one thats good for gaming, but wont blow a hole in my pocket. Im looking to run a 64 bit processor, cause those are good for running games (if im not mistaken??)

Meh, DVD readers are 20$ so that’s not even worth talking about

Just be warned that even if it’s a GF6600, you might need to upgrade for GRAW.

Also, the parts to buy in the list constitute the most expensive parts. In other words, the fact that you purchase this comp for 300$ wont help you much in building a new performing rig, except for that 19 inch monitor. :wacko:

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Yeah, i figured i would need a motherboard. I think what im going to do is just use it for a bit, and buy a whole new tower. Having to upgrade all that would be not a helluvalot cheaper than getting a new computer. Plus, then you also have a new computer!  :)

I would also need to add a dvd rom too, cause its only got a cd burner, so theres another upgrade :(

Edit: Do you need the psu to be an exact  wattage or can it be over? Would it fry anything if i got a psu that wasnt exact??

Also, what is a good amd mobo, one thats good for gaming, but wont blow a hole in my pocket. Im looking to run a 64 bit processor, cause those are good for running games (if im not mistaken??)

Meh, DVD readers are 20$ so that’s not even worth talking about

Just be warned that even if it’s a GF6600, you might need to upgrade for GRAW.

Also, the parts to buy in the list constitute the most expensive parts. In other words, the fact that you purchase this comp for 300$ wont help you much in building a new performing rig, except for that 19 inch monitor. :wacko:

Yeah, i realize that, but my dad will buy just the tower off me for 200, and this means, that for 100 bucks ill end up with everything but the tower. Ill look into it, and ill talk to the nerds at the computer store, and start with buying a case ;) .

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Heres the dx diag. There was not a geforce 6600, dont ask why i thought that... My friend dosent know much about hardware... :D

This i got for 300 CAD, plus 19 inch flat screen, optical laser mouse, and keyboard.

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System Information

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Time of this report: 1/21/2006, 22:02:17

Machine name: X0X3W9

Operating System: Microsoft Windows ME (4.90, Build 3000)

Language: English (Regional Setting: English)

System Manufacturer:

System Model:

BIOS:

Processor: Intel x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 7, ~1495MHz

Memory: 256MB RAM

Page File: 70MB used, 1722MB available

DirectX Version: DirectX 8.0 (4.08.00.0400)

DX Setup Parameters: None

DxDiag Version: 4.08.00.0400

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DxDiag Notes

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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.

Display Tab 1: No problems found.

Sound Tab 1: No problems found.

Music Tab: No problems found.

Input Tab: No input devices detected.

No problems found.

Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Components

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ddraw.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 369664 bytes

ddraw16.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 28496 bytes

ddrawex.dll: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 36864 bytes

ddraw.vxd: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 30469 bytes

ddhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41984 bytes

dxapi.sys: 4.87.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 2416 bytes

d3d8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1082368 bytes

d3dref8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 236544 bytes

d3dim.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 638976 bytes

d3dim700.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 872960 bytes

d3dref.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 140800 bytes

d3dramp.dll: 4.07.00.0700 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 606208 bytes

d3drm.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 446464 bytes

d3dxof.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 118784 bytes

d3dpmesh.dll: 4.06.02.0436 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 102400 bytes

dplayx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 245760 bytes

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dpwsockx.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 98304 bytes

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dpnwsock.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 143360 bytes

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dpvoice.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 442368 bytes

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dpvvox.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 184320 bytes

dpvacm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 90112 bytes

dpvhelp.exe: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 81920 bytes

dinput.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 671744 bytes

dinput8.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 704512 bytes

dinput.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10874 bytes

dimap.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 102400 bytes

diactfrm.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 425984 bytes

vjoyd.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33361 bytes

joyhid.vxd: 4.88.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 13055 bytes

joy.cpl: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 405504 bytes

gcdef.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 528384 bytes

gchand.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6144 bytes

pid.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 40960 bytes

gameenum.sys: 4.07.01.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 10608 bytes

hidgame.sys: 4.07.01.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 8912 bytes

dsound.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 474112 bytes

dsound3d.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1339392 bytes

dsound.vxd: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 48171 bytes

dswave.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 15360 bytes

dsdmo.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 176128 bytes

dsdmoprp.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 478720 bytes

dmusic.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110592 bytes

dmusic16.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11008 bytes

dmusic32.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 28672 bytes

dmband.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 25600 bytes

dmcompos.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 59392 bytes

dmime.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 168960 bytes

dmloader.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 30720 bytes

dmstyle.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 110080 bytes

dmsynth.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 130048 bytes

dmscript.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 78336 bytes

dx7vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 600576 bytes

dx8vb.dll: 4.08.00.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1069056 bytes

amstream.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 63488 bytes

devenum.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 131584 bytes

dxmasf.dll: 6.04.07.1112 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 507904 bytes

mciqtz.drv: 4.00.96.0729 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 11776 bytes

mciqtz32.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 33792 bytes

mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes

qcap.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 248320 bytes

qdv.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 272896 bytes

qdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 455168 bytes

quartz.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 1658368 bytes

quartz.vxd: 4.00.00.0501 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 5672 bytes

strmdll.dll: 4.01.00.3857 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 252736 bytes

vidx16.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 10240 bytes

iac25_32.ax: 2.00.05.0050 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 198656 bytes

ir41_32.ax: 4.31.16.0002 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 857600 bytes

ir41_qc.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 135168 bytes

ir41_qcx.dll: 0.00.00.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 352256 bytes

ir50_32.dll: 5.1026.15.0041 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 753664 bytes

ir50_qc.dll: 5.00.63.0038 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 212992 bytes

ir50_qcx.dll: 5.00.64.0038 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 196608 bytes

ivfsrc.ax: 5.03.02.0038 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 139264 bytes

mswebdvd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 375296 bytes

msdvdopt.dll: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 74512 bytes

ks.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 117600 bytes

ksproxy.ax: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 116224 bytes

ksuser.dll: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4096 bytes

stream.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 41920 bytes

mspclock.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4800 bytes

mspqm.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 4848 bytes

mskssrv.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 6368 bytes

swenum.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 3456 bytes

mstee.sys: 4.90.3000.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 4896 bytes

bdaplgin.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:38 13824 bytes

bdasup.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:16 4992 bytes

msdvbnp.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:16 50688 bytes

psisdecd.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:26 366080 bytes

psisrndr.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:24 35840 bytes

ipsink.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:40 14336 bytes

ndisip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 7424 bytes

mpe.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 13984 bytes

streamip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:18 13664 bytes

mpg2splt.ax: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 11/3/2000 14:35:22 141312 bytes

msvidctl.dll: 6.03.01.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:22:20 465920 bytes

slip.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:20 10016 bytes

nabtsfec.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 86016 bytes

ccdecode.sys: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 15264 bytes

vbisurf.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:52 29696 bytes

msyuv.dll: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:52 14336 bytes

kstvtune.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:50 52736 bytes

ksxbar.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:48 38400 bytes

kswdmcap.ax: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:21:56 82432 bytes

vfwwdm32.dll: 4.90.00.3000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 69632 bytes

wstdecod.dll: 5.01.2258.0400 English Final Retail 10/21/2000 02:30:46 45568 bytes

msdv.sys: 4.90.3000.0000 English Final Retail 6/8/2000 17:00:00 45744 bytes

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Display Devices

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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200

Manufacturer: NVIDIA

Chip type:

DAC type:

Device ID: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_B2\000800

Display Memory: 63.5 MB

Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit)(optimal refresh rate)

Monitor:

Monitor Max Res:

Driver Name: nvdisp.drv

Driver Version: 4.13.01.1241 (English)

DDI Version: 8 (or higher)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Date/Size: 5/17/2001 11:23:42, 105888 bytes

Driver Certified: Yes

WHQL Date Stamp: n/a

VDD: *vdd

Mini VDD: nvmini.vxd

Mini VDD Date: , 0 bytes

Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4251-11CF-6967-012010C2C935}

Vendor ID: 0x10DE

Device ID: 0x0111

SubSys ID: 0x00000000

Revision ID: 0x00B2

Registry: OK

DDraw Status: Enabled

D3D Status: Enabled

AGP Status: Enabled

DDraw Test Result:

D3D Test Result:

AGP Test Result:

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Sound Devices

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Description: SoundMAX Digital Audio

Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2445&SUBSYS_47328086&REV_04\BUS_00&DEV_1F&FUNC_05

Manufacturer ID: 1

Product ID: 100

Type: WDM

Driver Name: smwdm.sys

Driver Version: 5.12.01.3013 (English)

Driver Attributes: Final Retail

Driver Certified: Yes

Date and Size: 12/28/2000 13:00:24, 339496 bytes

Other Files: smwdm.sys

Driver Provider: Analog Devices

HW Accel Level: Full

Registry: OK

Sound Test Result:

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DirectMusic

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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\gm.dls

Version: 1.00.16.0002

Ports:

Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port

SoundMAX Digital Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal

MIDI Mapper, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal

Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal

Staccato Systems SynthCore 1.2, Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal

Registry: OK

Music Test Result:

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Input Devices

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Poll w/ Interrupt: Yes

Registry: OK

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Input Drivers

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DirectPlay Service Providers

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Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)

Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (4.08.00.0400)

Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)

IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (4.08.00.0400)

DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)

DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnwsock.dll (4.08.00.0400)

DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)

DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnmodem.dll (4.08.00.0400)

DirectPlay Test Result:

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps

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Inactive Display Entries in Registry

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None

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Inactive Sound Entries in Registry

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None

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Go AMD mate and if you are strapped for cash why not check out ebay as long as you are VERY careful and only buy things from sellers with lots of feedback that sell computer parts all the time and the parts are new with with manufacturer ROA warranty you can save yourself a small fortune. Then you could splash out on a better graphics card for example.

If you get AMD save money by getting an AMD 64 3700+ over an X2 3800+ for gaming. I don't think you will notice that much differance hence I am going to make that choice on my upgrade. That money will let me buy an x1800Xl instead of an x800 GTO a worthy swap I think!

I would definatly go ATI they are slightly cheaper and IMHO they are up there with Nvidia.

Motherboard wise go LANPARTY they are specifically designed for gaming. Even if you don't go LANPARTY make sure you get a good motherboard as this is after all what your whole PC is based on.

You could also save money using your old case providing its got enough space and is ATX.

RAM wise if you don't want to OC but still want decent timings go for GEIL. I did and I am very happy. Cheap aswell. I got mine off ebay. The guy sells them all the time and offers really quick delivery a classic example of the kind of ebay buyer to make purchases from. Look at his items for sale search for geil.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I just bought a case. Its an antec case with 350 watt psu, 1 rear 120mm fan, and 2 80 mm fans, one in side, and one optional in front. This baby is gonna be nice and cool.

I also got a mobo. The guy at the local shop reccomended this. Its the Biostar NF4ST-A9 AMD/939 with 3 pci, 1 agp, and 1 xgp slot. There are 4 RAM slots too. Later, in will go an Athalon 64 processor, and a Geforce 6800GT. I also plan to get 2 sticks of 1 gig :)

Is the board good? I know none of you reccomended Biostar, but the guy at the shop said its good. If it isnt a good board, then i will take it back and get a better one. :)

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Looks good :)

The only doubt is the makers of that board, Biostar??. From the looks and structure of their web site, it looks good, like their bios flash procedure is really cool.

and the mobo is red, woooo :lol:

oh,

I just bought a case. Its an antec case with 350 watt psu, 1 rear 120mm fan, and 2 80 mm fans, one in side, and one optional in front. This baby is gonna be nice  and cool.

...

Dude, that is border line imo

420 watt is safer, espacially if you decide to go with a 7800 instead of a 6800

I would call that store and ask how much would it cost to change that case for a better one with a 420 watts PSU.

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  • 2 weeks later...

So I just got a fat paycheck this week, and im going to the store within the next couple days.

Next, HDD and RAM.

For the HDD, im going to get at least 200 gig, with over 7200 rpm. My board is a socket 939, so i need to get a 939 HD? Or does that matter? Any brand names to go for?

With RAM, my board has 4 RAM slots. Im going to go for 2 gigs, so should i get 2 sticks of 1 gig? Any good brands i should buy? I dont thin my board supports 2 gig sticks... Should i go Single Side DDR or Double side DDR?

Im also going to check out what other cases are around too,

BTW, i also got a soundblaster audigy, and a LG DVD-RAM 8x :)

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For the HDD, im going to get at least 200 gig, with over 7200 rpm. My board is a socket 939, so i need to get a 939 HD? Or does that matter? Any brand names to go for?

Maxtor, Seagate, Western Digital...

Newegg.com is your friend. It is hard to beat their prices.

Although, if you're in Canada, you might have shipping difficulty. But you could use the site to research what is out there.

With RAM, my board has 4 RAM slots. Im going to go for 2 gigs, so should i get 2 sticks of 1 gig? Any good brands i should buy? I dont thin my board supports 2 gig sticks... Should i go Single Side DDR or Double side DDR?

Double Side. Get the 2 sticks of 1gb RAM. You 'puter will thank you for the headroom. Good Brands = OCZ, Corsair, Crucial, Patriot, Mushkin.

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As far as the case, personally, I would take it back and get one without a PSU. Then, buy an aftermarket PSU over 400 watts (500 recommended). Good Brands = Antec, Thermaltake, Cooler Master

You're gonna need some power to run that 6800GT.

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For the motherboard you bought, look at the reviews...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingRe...N82E16813138248

Good Brands = Asus, DFI, MSI, Abit, Gigabyte, etc.

EDIT: These are just my recommendations of what I would do. You can take them for what they're worth to you. Your and anyone else's opinion may be different, and I can respect that.

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Yeah, I looked trough newegg.com before, but they dont ship to canada as far as i know. Thank you for the post rossiski. Im going to get a new case, but im going to stick with the board. I know the guy who sold it to me a bit, i usually see him for parts, and he says its a real good board, theyve been carrying biostar for years, and he hasnt had any problems with it either. He even uses a biostar motherboard.

Thanks for the reccomendations! This is going to be a helluva system! :o=

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Yeah, I looked trough newegg.com before, but they dont ship to canada as far as i know. Thank you for the post rossiski. Im going to get a new case, but im going to stick with the board. I know the guy who sold it to me a bit, i usually see him for parts, and he says its a real good board, theyve been carrying biostar for years, and he hasnt had any problems with it either.  He even uses a biostar motherboard.

Thanks for the reccomendations! This is going to be a helluva system!  :o=

No, sadly Newegg doesn't do Canada.

The Biostar is a good board. I have never had issue with them. I used to use them.

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How good is this card??

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814121216

And whats the difference between pci express and agp? Agp is better is it not? But how much better?? I mean, i dont wanna spend 500 bucks on a video card.

Actually, while AGP is by no means bad, PCIe is becoming the new stadnard and will replace AGP within the next 2 years or so.

And actually, you will be better off finding the 6800GT which comes in both AGP and PCIe, for the same money. It has 256 RAM, but it is DDR3, not DDR2 like on this card, and the GPU has 16 Pixel pipes, unlike this card which only has 12.

The GT will be the better card for the same money, and it will be faster.

If you have an option on your mobo where you can pick either AGP or PCIe, pick PCI-e, that way you know that video card will be fully transferrable to a new mobo if necessary, or even another machine.

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I know my specs aren't the best around here, but for $849US, I didn't do too bad. as long as you know your parts, you can get away with alot. Since money WAS a serious issue, I made sure the parts i used were good. plus I spoke to the rep who's a gamer himself and found out that my mobo is an MSI too. Plus I'm running windows media edition on this.

But if I could, I'd have gone for a custom made system from parts alone.

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I just want to make sure

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814121192 This one is better??

And this would still run better than the other even though the other has 2x memory? I believe you, im just making sure, i dont want to get the wrong card.

Many people seem to be having heatsink issues, but it seems easy to fix...

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yeah you CAN remove the stock heatsink from a graphicscard and put a custom one on. but a 6800 isn't the top o' the line but respectable, better than my 6200..

But you'll be gaming for awhile Added:If you use quality parts from trusted sources, you're in the green. but when you buy parts from unknown companies, you are taking chances.

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Ok, but now i got a problem

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My monitor is not s video and does not fit those 2 output plugs. Also, some people have said the heatsinks have fallen off. Would a dab of superglue hurt anything? (I DO know enough not to do that with the cpu heatsink ;) )

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Ok, but now i got a problem

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My monitor is not s video and does not fit those 2 output plugs. Also, some people have said the heatsinks have fallen off. Would a dab of superglue hurt anything? (I DO know enough not to do that with the cpu heatsink ;) )

The heatsink/fan should be screwed to the board. if you decide to change the heatsink/fan to a thermaltake one or another, purchase some artic silver paste for transferring the heat from the GPU to the heatsink setup.

As for the dual DVI hookups, most graphiccard companies(not all) give you an adapter to plug your CRT to the card. example, I have an adapter(DVI) from my old MSI geforce 4200 card that will still work fine. so not to worry, if your card doesn't come with one, ask your local PC shop, they should be on the cheap and plentiful. look at the pic below for this adapter so you know what it looks like mate;

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****Note these are two of the same adapters just turned so you can see the ends better

-Papa6

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