l-li†m/-\n 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 can someone plz explain the difference? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viper 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 SOPMOD (Special Operations Particular Modification) is an accessory kit for the M-4A1/A2 carbine, usually referred to as the M-4A1 SOPMOD. SOCOM (Special Operations Command), also called USSOCOM, this is a sort of branch of the military that many of the more elite spec ops forces have been chopped to (Delta, SEAL-6, 160th SAR …) its connection to any weapon does not have to do with any type of name, just that SOCOM forces use it (like the Mk. 23). CLARK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadow2k1 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 can someone plz explain the difference? the name? but really there isnt none, if you ask anyone that KNOWS miltary weapons they will tell you they are 99% the same thing. some might even tell you there is no such thing as a socom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
l-li†m/-\n 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Author Share Posted March 15, 2003 thx for shedding some light on that... i am thinking of including all kinds of M4a1 i can think of into my new mod. i've seen pics of both kinds but couldnt tell any difference. thx guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tollen 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 (edited) Viper, Shadow2k, isn´t it so that the SOPMOD is based around an entirely different stock hand guard, namely the KAC-rail/adapter-stock hand guard? Is this the dreaded 1% difference that differs the M4A1 from the so called SOPMOD? The thought just hit me... (and yes, I know that it takes about 3 sec´s to change it) Edited March 15, 2003 by Tollen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Crocodile 0 Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 In Ghost recon.....i feel that the SOPMOP is less noisy than the SOCOM (both-SD). But SOCOM has a better zoom. IMHO. I love those C-Mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shadow2k1 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 i am thinking of including all kinds of M4a1 i can think of into my new mod. i've seen pics of both kinds but couldnt tell any difference. thx guys there is already a mod out with m4's in it the trance m4 mod Quote Link to post Share on other sites
l-li†m/-\n 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 yes i know that...dont ruin my fun.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Slink 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 yes i know that...dont ruin my fun.. So when's it comin'? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
l-li†m/-\n 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Author Share Posted March 16, 2003 i plan to release in about 3 weeks. maybe i know i want to add more guns im just not sure which ones... if anyone has some requests ill seriously ocnsider them. i plan on making my own minigun. i found a pic of 3 miniguns mounted together on a tripod. seriously scary. if i can find it again ill post it. i plan on making that as a stationary weapon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kamakazi 0 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 A minigun in a pure weapons mod (I think that is what you are talking about) would be awesome I've only saw two other miniguns one was in Australian Defence Force 3 (great mod but mainly skins) and DAGRM4.8 (and we all know about that one) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viper 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Viper, Shadow2k, isn´t it so that the SOPMOD is based around an entirely different stock hand guard, namely the KAC-rail/adapter-stock hand guard? Is this the dreaded 1% difference that differs the M4A1 from the so called SOPMOD? Yes, that's basicly right, the SOPMOD just has a KAC FIRMS system on the hand guard, although the M-4A1 SOPMOD and M-4A2 are basicly the same thing, only the M-4A2 is more standardized; the SOPMOD is custom built for SF troops, so thier are some differances within them. (oh, FIRMS is Flexible Interface Rail Mounting System - very cool). And since my last post may not have been very clear, thier is no such thing (to the best of my knowledge) as an M-4 SOCOM. It is just a name people made for M-4s used by SOCOM forces. CLARK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tollen 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Thanks Viper. One more thing, the namen SOCOM, isn´t it reserved for the SOCOM gun, the H&K Mark. 23 .45 cal offensive handgun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piccolo 0 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 I wouldn't say it's reserved soley for the MK23, but it is in the weapons title, because it went through SOCOM trails to be the official handgun of the orginization. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tollen 0 Posted March 19, 2003 Share Posted March 19, 2003 Does the USSOCOM use it then? It´s big, it´s bulky and after all, it´s just a .45 (I´m will get flamed for this!). Sure, it´s one of the most accurate pieces out there, but does it really exist situations where "even a SMG is unmanageble" since it seem´s to big for undercover-works. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piccolo 0 Posted March 20, 2003 Share Posted March 20, 2003 I'm not sure to tell you the truth. I have heard alot of people don't like the size, but then again it is a offensive handgun. I have seen most Army Special Forces use standard M9 handguns, in Afghan and such. Delta, from rumors, seems to like customized 1911's (Wilson Combat,etc). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sgt.Crocodile 0 Posted March 21, 2003 Share Posted March 21, 2003 (edited) This does not concern this topic, but i saw some replies i want to make a little comment. if anyone has some requests ill seriously ocnsider them. i plan on making my own minigun. i found a pic of 3 miniguns mounted together on a tripod. seriously scary. if i can find it again ill post it. i plan on making that as a stationary weapon. A minigun in a pure weapons mod (I think that is what you are talking about) would be awesome I've only saw two other miniguns one was in Australian Defence Force 3 (great mod but mainly skins) and DAGRM4.8 (and we all know about that one) I've seen pics of miniguns and in my opinion the minigun in ADF looks more realistic. I'd like to see any grunt holding a minigun like in DAGRM. Its huge. check this: This is from ADF This is from DAGRM Edited March 22, 2003 by Sgt.Crocodile Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Viper 0 Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 The Mk.23 is called "SOCOM" becouse it is used by SOCOM forces (they wanted a .45 pistol to replace the 1911A1 that had a higher mag-cap as well as being more accurate and accepting a IRSP and supressor standard) SOCOM is also called USSOCOM, they are the same thing, just was a "US" added to the front. So SOCOM forces can use it (delta, SEAL-6, ect...) they do not always use it, but it is a nice gun - exelent stoppong power. On a random note I have herd that SEALs do not use the M-9/92FS becouse of slide problems, they use SIG P-226s, or Mk.23s or whatever they want to really. CLARK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piccolo 0 Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Sig's are a old favorite of SEALs. However, on the 92fs, I have actually heard they contracted Beretta to make some specialized versions for themselfs. PS. It is no longer ST6, the unit is Naval Special Warfare Development Group - DEVGRU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tollen 0 Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Same crap, different names. Thanx for the heads up on the Mk.23 Viper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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