WhiteKnight77 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Yeah, Ubi cancled Harpoon4 and even closed a forum for it. I was looking forward to it myself and if I recall correctly, I had even recommended it (or was it 3) to NORAF when he asked about a naval game. It's a shame that Ubi is pulling the stuff it is now with GR2. The past has a way of repeating itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToKill Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Ye we know for a fact that UBI have spent money and RSE have dedicated a lot of time into developing GR2 for the PC.Sometimes we all have to cut our losses when we realise "this just ain't gonna work" and assign it to the history books and move on.Thats just life. With Ubi procuring sites last year for GR5 and 6 its pretty obvious where they intend to take the GR series and the Clancy Franchise.One things for sure they can't keep spending time and resources on GR2 PC with planned sequels in the pipeline and time passing by. I really think GR2 has hit a brick wall in its development for some reason, maybe all public gripes and requests.They need to produce something that will sell.If that means it can't be done in this time span, then dump it.Salvage the good bits put more time into it and make it GR3.Adapt and change, something any company needs to be able to do if its to survive. I'm now only expecting to see GR3 at E3 in 6 weeks, and it will be developed along side the X-box version with an end of year launch.This would make sense with all the secrecy, the closing of the French forum tread about the PC version slip up. Expect to see screenies of GR3 in about a months time.They are gonna try hit us with wam bam GR3 has it all campaign.So heres hoping. Edit The French UBI site have merged the GR2 threads into the Ghostrecon 1 Threads. Ubi being french, this is their main site imo.Will the GR2 threads on other UBI sites start being merged? Could this be because GR2 is no longer and GR3 is now the main focus.IF they start merging all the other GR2 threads on US and UK sites this will confirm that GR2 has been dropped. Edited March 23, 2005 by BornToKill_TAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Tigre Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 I think that is a very possible out come in this situation. I also belive GR3, on all platforms, will be closer to its roots, and also will be more of a direct port to PC then whatever was planned to be GR2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManuNice Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 A great explanation to all of this mess will be: They where currently develloping GR2 PC, they made such a great job and they're work had not much in common with the Xbox version, so someone made a memo to the executive, then they went to check that out, and when they saw the beauty, they decide that the game was so great and so different from the gr2 console that they will name it GR3 PC and make some port for console's next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 roflmao!, this is too comical, the only releases for GR I've heard of yet are the console versions(GR2) and the E3 version. those of you who get to go to E3 this year, well.. enjoy yourselves, that may be all you'll see of these GR games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 The French UBI site have merged the GR2 threads into the Ghostrecon 1 Threads. ← Can you clarify that please, do you mean they had seperate forums for PC GR1 and PC GR2 and now they have removed the GR2 PC one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtz Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Exactly right, there are only 2 Ghost Recon forums - general and tech support. This is the second major disappointment after the poor debut for BIA. That's two of the three games I was looking to buy. Looking at CC FTF and Elite Warriors now. @4 It was a compliment to your fine mod and a diss for HL2. A game has got to have replayability for me. One time use - that's not a game, that's a condom. I hope this consolizing of games is not the demise of real tactical games. I think BIA suffered from being built primarily for consoles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCo Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 It is starting to look like there will never be a game like GR for the PC ever again. It is a shame because it 's my favorite game and has a great fan base. I'll still check for it at E3 but I have a feeling I will be let down by UBI once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arms Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Usually the developers wouldn't try to let the ball drop on a game that was successful for their sequel of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManuNice Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 The French UBI site have merged the GR2 threads into the Ghostrecon 1 Threads. ← Can you clarify that please, do you mean they had seperate forums for PC GR1 and PC GR2 and now they have removed the GR2 PC one? ← The french UBI forums was different than the english one, before the merge, they where NOT having a gr2 PC forum like the english one, it was a general GR2 and a general GR1. Now it is gone and there's only a GR forum left and they transfer (some!!! Not all of them!!! lol) posts from GR2 section into the new just-GR-section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToKill Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Quote by UBI assistant CM on UBI FR Forums:- Ubi_LumEater Assistant Community Manager, Globox m'a tuer posted Tue March 22 2005 09:54 AM Bonjour à tous, Au vu du peu d'activité sur le forum Ghost Recon 2, nous avons décidé de fusionner les forums Ghost Recon et Ghost recon 2. Le forum général sera donc le lieu où vous pourrez vous exprimer sur les 2 épisodes. Seule une partie des messages du forum GR2 a pu être transférée, nous vous remercions de votre compréhension. @ bientôt LumEater This message has been edited. Last edited by: Ubi_LumEater, Tue March 22 2005 10:29 AM Roughly Translated Ubi_LumEater Assistant Community Manager, Globox has to kill me posted Kills March 22 2005 09:54 AM Hello with all, Within sight of little activity on the forum Ghost Recon 2, we decided to amalgamate the forums Ghost Recon and Ghost recon 2. The general forum will be thus the place where you will be able to express yourselves on the 2 episodes. Only a part of the messages of forum GR2 could be transferred, we thank you for your comprehension. @ soon LumEater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Well, Guess I should move on to better things. I still play GR somewhat, but I'm not going to hold me breath anymore. merged forums, no news, release dates upon us.. maybe we need to move on as a whole group? like "D" said earlier, the best way to get UBI's attention is by not purchasing UBI games. Just because one dog owns the street, doesn't make it any better. The camo for GR2 must be pretty good, I can't see it anywhere now or in the future. This is a great stress release. Man UBI is something else lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRP 56 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 The camo for GR2 must be pretty good, I can't see it anywhere now or in the future. ← Unless your a console player of course. They'll see GR3,4,5 etc. Still a big PC market out there to be had. Guess UBI doesn't feel that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babydave Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 i think we're all too negative......the reason is probably a practical one that those forums were merged, dont you think if it was done because there was going to be no GR2 they wouldve merged all of the GR and GR2 forums? secondly, a lot of french people use the US ubi forums as most of us do thus the french one rarely gets used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 (edited) Yup 54 more days of speculation.............. Of course me making that statement is just pure speculation Edited March 25, 2005 by Cutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingotnw Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 Right or wrong the problem is this. a good PC tactical game sells a few thousand coppies, a good console game sells 2 million +. From a business stand point, its obvious which one you want to develop for. I like GR2 Xbox, it's not the same as GR1PC obviously, but I really do enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted March 26, 2005 Share Posted March 26, 2005 The PC market accounts for 33% of total GR copies sold,... thats quite a few more than a few thousand. Without developer designing games for the PC it wont be long before they fall behind the technology available. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they completely ignored the PC market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRP 56 Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 The PC market accounts for 33% of total GR copies sold,... thats quite a few more than a few thousand. ← Yes. I think the last total I heard about GR was over 750,000 sold and I think a GR2 that had capabilities like GR only better would be able to sell more than GR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR6 Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 The PC market accounts for 33% of total GR copies sold,... thats quite a few more than a few thousand. ← Just curious what was your reference/source for the above 33% statistic? Can you post a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 It was in the UBI finacial report for 2003-2004. If someone can link that (I since lost it) it'll state total GR copies sold and on what platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 It was in the UBI finacial report for 2003-2004. If someone can link that (I since lost it) it'll state total GR copies sold and on what platform. ← I can't link to it but I can confirm from memory that it's true. I remember seeing it a while ago. I also vaguely remember the same report stating that GR was there second most profitable title, only being beaten by Splinter cell which was a surprise at the time because there was only speculation at the time of them even planning a GR2. Anyhow Im happy now cos I've found SWAT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4ceReconSniper Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 With the announcement of GR3 without even having info on GR2 PC it seems Ubi forgot us PC gamers that made GR a success. WE ARE LEFT BEHIND! We are given false hopes about this anticipated game. Here we are like a member of a task force pinned in a gun fight hoping there would be backup or a rescue squad but in reality there is nothing to save or help us from getting pinned. i remember the Terran Cinematic of StarCraft wherein a marine was left by a Battle cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connie lingus Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Perhaps they just decided to let the crappy console version they made as GR2 stand, since no-one really wants a crappy port, and I'm quite sure they could give a ###### about what we like/want from a game, maybe they are just gonna leave it at that, and move on. It sucks, but I just want a new game minus all the uber ghey stuff, like knives that kill faster than the lead firing weaponry, and vehicular manslaughter. Please, UBI, can't I just have one game that doesn't sux0r? GR1 forever! ← You wouldn't be talking about JO, would you? Actually, other than SWAT4 I don't see any other company going for any realism in a FPS game. It's amazing that no other company has tried to speak to our market successfully and earn our business. EA and other manufacturers want to market the Quake-ers and CS bunny-hoppers. This will be the second or maybe even third time that GR2 for PC was scrapped. The reasons could be the same as before; the longer you delay, the more outdated the game engine is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCo Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 (edited) Actually, other than SWAT4 I don't see any other company going for any realism in a FPS game. It's amazing that no other company has tried to speak to our market successfully and earn our business. EA and other manufacturers want to market the Quake-ers and CS bunny-hoppers. This will be the second or maybe even third time that GR2 for PC was scrapped. The reasons could be the same as before; the longer you delay, the more outdated the game engine is. ← Try Close Combat: First to Fight. It is a modified version of the training tool used by the US Marines. http://www.firsttofight.com/ Edited April 3, 2005 by EasyCo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfarrer Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Try Close Combat: First to Fight. It is a modified version of the training tool used by the US Marines. http://www.firsttofight.com/ ← I've been looking at that. Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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