Ubisoft releases for 2005-06

[Papa6]

I'd treat this UBI situation alot like my days when I chased women. If they don't put out, then go look elsewhere, there's alot more fish in the ocean.

[cobaka]

What i do find funny is the New CM at the UBI forums doesn't know anything about GR2 PC.What did they give the job to the Janitor on the first floor???

That's rather unfair. He can't and won't say anything that he is not 100% sure of. Unfortunately, he can only say what he is given. And he is trying hard to get concrete info.

[BornToKill]

That's rather unfair. He can't and won't say anything that he is not 100% sure of. Unfortunately, he can only say what he is given. And he is trying hard to get concrete info.

Exactly my point, UBI have him gagged as they have RSE employees gagged.

What i'm saying is that if they expect us to believe there is no info, then they are insulting the intelligence of every visitor to those forums.Do they really think we're all 16 yr kids?

GR PC fans have been strung along too long now.We were told by UBI and RSE that info would be out after Christmas not after EASTER. I know some people were demanding info on boxing day, but some people are impetuous.

With GR3 mentioned, we all know this is going to be another X-box drive.Its the blatent disregard UBI have towards their customers (be it a small consumer base in the PC market) but non the less, customers who deserve a little more respect than the constant Bullcrap, "Soon" or as "Soon as we know". Theres only so much crap people will put up with before they turn their backs and walk the other way.

UBI would actually do themselves a favour and would have a lot more respect if they were honest and said , it's been cancelled, or delayed due to development issues or what ever.

The CM should be going to his manager and saying " common, they ain't buying this crap, gotta tell them sooner or later".Unless UBI is happy to start losing customers.

[Cutter]

Call me an optimist but I think GR2 PC is still coming out, I think it is going to be something special.....why else would there be all the secrecy??

It was confirmed that it was in development, why would they just cease development? wouldn't they be taking a loss with that scenario too? It has been confirmed that it is not a port too. I think we should focus on the facts, few as they may be.

I think it is coming out and it is going to be different then the console versions and the wait will have been worth it. Just my two cents.

Edited March 23, 2005 by Cutter

[Inc_Doc]

I had a gut feeling that we were screwed when no information came out after New Years Day. GR2 is UBI's last chance to keep me as a Customer. If GR2 for the PC does not come out or its not a kick-butt game then my moneys going elsewhere. Now I know it wont break UBI by losing my business but there are many more who feel the same way.

[warhawk]

Call me an optimist but I think GR2 PC is still coming out, I think it is going to be something special.....why else would there be all the secrecy??

It was confirmed that it was in development, why would they just cease development?  wouldn't they be taking a loss with that scenario too? It has been confirmed that it is not a port too. I think we should focus on the facts, few as they may be.

I think it is coming out and it is going to be different then the console versions and the wait will have been worth it.  Just my two cents.

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Going against my better judgement here I do have one thing to say in response to a point you bring up.

It was confirmed that it was in development, why would they just cease development?  wouldn't they be taking a loss with that scenario too?

Do a little homework and research into a sim called Harpoon4. It was in "development" for 5+ years and UBI cancelled it. Screwing over the Harpoon community in the short run anyways.

Stout Hearts

|RE|Warhawk

[X69RZX]

Why would UBI spend a grip of money to develop a game just for us PC users in this day and age? These days, we all should know that the money is in the $50 a pop, no support, no patch, no cares after it's sold console games. GR2PC=GR3PC-->port-->Xbox-->PSw/e. It just makes sense. That way, they get to sell it as a whole new game across three markets, and they basically just have to finish the job they should've already had done. We will get GR2pc when it is done, it will be called GR3pc, and it will be ported to the consoles, and sold as a new game to the eager console people as a brand new GR, as it will, in essence, be. /speculation

Let be written, let it be done.

[Cutter]

Like I said, call me an optimist.

[Toaster]

Ubi is truly disappointing. Being a huge fan of GR, I've been anxiously following the release date for GR2, but now all this crap. I'm giving up on GR2. What a big let down. Whatever!!

[Stig]

While Getting annoyed with the lack of info from UBI & being very frustrated with the fact I'm really starting to hate that company but they produce all my favorite games grrrrr

I tried out another offering from another comany. & I was truly surprised at the quality & I feel I may possibly have found my Realistic tactical none linear Multiplayer game after all. S.W.A.T. 4

ok it's not a military thing & it hasn't got the Tom Clancy Branding but geeez it's a good game. Replay ability is awsome as well with it's mission editor. It's also nice trying to capture alive the baddies without wasting any civs instead of head shot after head shot. Think of it as what Rainbow6 should've been but wasn't.

If you frustrated with UBI I recomend Downloading the 186mb Demo of S.W.A.T. 4 & give that a try.

I still love the original GR but S.W.A.T. 4 has definately got my attention. I don't know much about Sierra Entertainment but from first impressions UBI could learn alot from them.

[Arms]

I think E3 will be the turning point. If there is no GR2 PC information at E3, then it's all over for GR2 PC IMO. Whether it means that the PC's next GR is a console port of the upcoming GR3 or what who knows, but my gut feeling is starting to take a decidely negative turn. 

E3 is going to be very interesting this year, let's hope Ubi surprise us all and show us GR2 PC because if they don't, I doubt they ever will.

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They better show something soon.

[babydave]

I don't know much about Sierra Entertainment

they brought us Half Life and Half Life 2 - they good.

[Old_Geezer]

they brought us Half Life and Half Life 2 - they good.

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They brought us forced registration and forced Steam subscription- they bad.

Not sure if that's Sierra's or Valve's fault though, but Sierra shoulda nuked Steam long before the game ever launched.

The first HL was great for it's time though.

Edited March 23, 2005 by Old_Geezer

[en4rcment]

they brought us Half Life and Half Life 2 - they good.

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They brought us forced registration and forced Steam subscription for an uninspired linear pile of crap- they bad.

Not sure if that's Sierra's or Valve's fault though, but Sierra shoulda nuked it long before the game ever launched.

The first HL was great for it's time though.

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I don't want to hijack this thread, but I completely disagree with you here. I found steam to be a great vehicle for acquiring the game (I got it free with my vid card). A great system for frequent updates and to prevent piracy of their game.

You thought that Half-Life 2 was "an uninspired linear pile of crap"? You are definitely in the minority on that one sir. HL2 was one of the greatest games that I have ever played to date and everyone in the gaming industry has been equally impressed. I saw and experienced things on my PC that I have yet to see again in any of the current offerings. It is definitely the game of the year (read some reviews) and has raised the bar on PC gaming...

[Old_Geezer]

I don't want to hijack this thread, but I completely disagree with you here.  I found steam to be a great vehicle for acquiring the game (I got it free with my vid card).  A great system for frequent updates and to prevent piracy of their game.

You thought that Half-Life 2 was "an uninspired linear pile of crap"?  You are definitely in the minority on that one sir.  HL2 was one of the greatest games that I have ever played to date and everyone in the gaming industry has been equally impressed.  I saw and experienced things on my PC that I have yet to see again in any of the current offerings.  It is definitely the game of the year (read some reviews) and has raised the bar on PC gaming...

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No sweat buddy...I welcome all opinions, even differing ones. You might notice I edited the "linear pile of crap" out, as I realized the timing might have been rude (sorry Dave), but alas, not before you had started your post. I do stand by my comments though. No matter how pretty the graphics, you are always running/driving down barely disguised hallways (totally linear). I know there are alot of people who like that kind of gameplay (as you said...the reviews), but there are a minority of us gamers who have grown to hate that predictable repetitive gameplay style. To each his/her own.

Now Steam on the other hand, is somebody's delusion manifesting itself as an obtrusive background app on my computer. If you like it, that's great, you should use it and enjoy it...but here's the thing: Forcing it on people who don't want it, for the sake of playing a single-player game, is, again, an example of punishing paying customers for nothing: It is pointless as an anti-piracy measure (you could get cracked HL2 shortly after release if you were so inclined...just like every other game).

That lack of respect for our freedom of choice where privacy is concerned is why I'll never buy another Valve game again...I'm not sure I feel the same way about Sierra cuz I recall reading they were miffed about the whole Steam thing...I should look into that.

But I am glad you liked it....I paid $69cdn for 5 coffee coasters and about 10 hours of cursing at linear gameplay and constant midgame loading pauses. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder...wish I could have borrowed your eyes for 10 hours

[Kurtz]

I agree with you totally about the boring, linear, brainless gameplay. I got as far as the mine and lost interest. It's an elaborate graphics and physics display. Not gameplay. And I agree about Steam. These arcade games like Stalker and Fear are all the same, one run through and you return it and sell it, move on to the next one. Playing the demo for Chronicles Of Riddick, same thing. I'll stick to GR and HD2.

The truth of the matter is I'd rather replay en4cement's Direct Action than HL 2, far more fun and interesting.

[babydave]

for all of steams problems (and theres many) it does have good points.

easy distribution of updates, maps etc.

easy to download custom files and maps from servers (I wouldve loved that to have been a feature of GR but it wasnt and so it led to the mp community being divided between those that openly played mods and those that didnt want to or didnt know where to get them from.

constant updates and interaction with the community. (something ubi can learn from)

But i do agree with you geezer, the HL2 games are very linear, but not neccessarily rubbish. I prefer non linear games but sometimes its nice to play something like HL2 or CSS for a change ya know HL2 has pushed the boundaries and we will all be better off for it.

I think codemasters and sierra are the last bastion of PC gaming at its best, look how long Half Life 1 and Counterstrike has lasted, years and years, all because of good relationships with the community, i cant think of many games that can match that, and i doubt there ever will be games like that again considering way people like Ubi are going about their business.

[Specter]

they brought us Half Life and Half Life 2 - they good.

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They brought us forced registration and forced Steam subscription for an uninspired linear pile of crap- they bad.

Not sure if that's Sierra's or Valve's fault though, but Sierra shoulda nuked it long before the game ever launched.

The first HL was great for it's time though.

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I don't want to hijack this thread, but I completely disagree with you here. I found steam to be a great vehicle for acquiring the game (I got it free with my vid card). A great system for frequent updates and to prevent piracy of their game.

You thought that Half-Life 2 was "an uninspired linear pile of crap"? You are definitely in the minority on that one sir. HL2 was one of the greatest games that I have ever played to date and everyone in the gaming industry has been equally impressed. I saw and experienced things on my PC that I have yet to see again in any of the current offerings. It is definitely the game of the year (read some reviews) and has raised the bar on PC gaming...

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Don't forget bro, your pals at Ubi did it first with RvS, MS is doing it by midyear, so if you arne't a legit holder of their OS, no more security upgrades, patches, etc. BF1942 has done it, Symantec has done it with their AV, Utilites, and such, Doom 3 did it, RTC did it, and just about everyone is hopping on the bandwagon.

You may as well get used to it.

As for Steam, as far as the process goes, it's easy, only done once, and very non-intrusive.

Hell, I don't like forced registration either, bro. I feel it is very Hitleristic. But if we want to play, it's the price we pay.

[wareagle1990]

I can't remember...was there any information released about GR2 before E3 last year? Or did all the info come after they showed it at E3?

[NYR_32]

The only thing about GR2 pre-E3 2004 was the press release about it coming later in the year, I think.

EDIT: Just remembered, I think the teaser website went live before E3 as well.

[le Tigre]

If I remember correctly those magazine scans were floating around pre E3, I remember the stir those things caused.

[fr1j0l3]

The truth of the matter is I'd rather replay en4cement's Direct Action than HL 2, far more fun and interesting.

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oh god, there goes 4's head....

On topic: (If there is one anymore)

I like steam and HL2. True, the levels are very linear and scripted, but the disguise it pretty well in the first levels of the game. You get the feeling it's not, but it is.

And you can turn steam off and play your single-player game without it.I would much rather have a background app than have to keep up with bazillions of patches anyways.

Time will tell if anything will really come of GR2 now, but I am noticing that a lot of the "just shut the hell up, it's in development" nonsense has slowed down a bit.

[le Tigre]

I'll tell you one thing they did very right with the halflife 2 engine, and hopefully for myself is something we will see in GR"unknown", there engine is compatible withmore than just 3D max. If you work in Maya its no problem, XSI is fine too. They are all compatible. Iwould love to see this happen.

[en4rcment]

The truth of the matter is I'd rather replay en4cement's Direct Action than HL 2, far more fun and interesting.

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Is that a compliment to me or an insult to half-life 2??

I'll take it as a compliment.

You are both right. The gameplay was linear, but as frij said it was disguised very well. I found the gameplay fun, the story captivating, the graphics jaw-dropping, and I loved the fully interactive environments.

Let me recount for you one of my greatest gaming moments ever (playing HL2):

I was in a heavy, heavy firefight. I was being chased from behind, with ambushes springing up on me every 20 feet. In fact, I was surrounded.

It seemed that every enemy I dropped, caused about three more to appear. I was running low on ammo and starting to take some damage from being fired at from all sides. My frustration was starting to grow.

As I dropped another enemy, I ducked behind some cover to assess how much ammo I had left in each weapon. It wasn't looking good and I was unsure how much longer I could go on.

I had a friendly AI buddy fighting alongside of me. He saw me ducked down and ran over to me. He looked at me with the most realistic expression ever and said: "This is bull ####!"

I struggled not to laugh, as this was the most accurate statement of the situation. I don't know if this was a scripted event, or if my low ammo and heavy casualties caused him to say it, or if it was just coincidence (since the AI do say random things to you throughout the game). However, this has to go down in gaming history as one of the best AI responses to a human player ever.

The only issue I have with HL2 (besides the never-ending boat and buggy sagas) was that, for me, it was only good for one run through. Great experience but I don't want to play the whole game over from scratch. A co-op mode or new addons to the story would definitely of been welcomed.

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soooo..back on topic...

Can we hear some GR2 gossip please? Where is ZJJ's report? How are the UBI spies we sent in doing? Who has their ear to the ground and can start telling this community what to expect? Where do we go from here?

Edited March 23, 2005 by en4rcment

[Rocky]

Do a little homework and research into a sim called Harpoon4.  It was in "development" for 5+ years and UBI cancelled it.  Screwing over the Harpoon community in the short run anyways.

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Interesting, I never knew that.

Why would UBI spend a grip of money to develop a game just for us PC users in this day and age?

There is no question, Ubi HAVE already spent money and resources on GR2 PC. The question now is "why would they abandon it", or perhaps "why have they...".