SRS_Undertaker Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Are we not all getting a little hyped up over a press realese?... GR2 cant be in this one because it was already in the press realese from last year, wasnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 There's no point in second guessing what will happen. UBI are predictable in their unpredicatbility, so expect anything at any time. Look at RV4, that was a shot in the dark that took be by surprise big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 here's a question; I'm no business major, I'm no businessman either. But don't companies forcast future products during some sort of business meeting within? What I'm getting at is, since the fiscal year begins every october, wouldn't they have known about GR3 back in october? actually since there's some sort of forecast for a release this fall for GR3, then they've been eating off this plate making GR3 for sometime to be finished this fall. It used to be cut and dry as to when we could expect games to ship. lol But really everyone, listening to barry manilow hour after hour would be a better time then what's going on here with UBI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaka Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 But really everyone, listening to barry manilow hour after hour would be a better time then what's going on here with UBI. ← Ouch! Now that's harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I don't mean to hijack this thread sorry. But I was showering and it hit me. Guys, I think UBIsoft is in trouble financially. EA some few months ago bought up 20%+ of UBI stock. We all know investors are what determine the success or failure of any company. So what EA has done is set themselves up to become potentially the largest ownership of the company. 51% is needed to be majority stock holder. they would in effect have the say as to what is going on. axe this, continue with that...you catch my drift? But EA only needs to get 31% more and UBI loses control. Does UBI risk the entire show and hope they can attract investors by making big titles for us? or do they make a bad call, like in the game of poker, losing all? if they lose out on hoping that splintercell:chaos theory and these other titles keeping UBI afloat. if they see themselves sinking, profit wise, it would be better for them to sell to EA and maybe make a profit rather than lose complete control of their company. This is all speculative, I really don't know but if UBI loses alot more money with bad titles like RvS and such, investors will back out with their money and EA can grasp UBI by the nads. who knows? This is really what came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babydave Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 What I'm getting at is, since the fiscal year begins every october The fiscal year starts in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Tigre Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (edited) Accually I think they posted record numbers this year. EDIT: I was looking and didnt find alot, but in there last press release they said "Strong sales in the last Quarter" whcih was the reason for them delaying Lockdown. They were happy with sales they Fiscal year, enough so to save the title till next year to help its numbers then. Edited March 20, 2005 by MissLoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToKill Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 51% is needed to be majority stock holder. they would in effect have the say as to what is going on. axe this, continue with that...you catch my drift? But EA only needs to get 31% more and UBI loses control I think i read that EA only need 25% share to be the largest Shareholder in UBI and therefore be i a position for a Takeover, which was the concern when they bought in 20% of the shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Commando Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Consider this. All the insesant rantings about GR2 PC content and the huge amount of discord that was present, not only in these forums.The stories i've heard from beta testers that say GR2 PC sucks.The recent Ubi press release with no mention of GR2 but GR3.I'm slowly begining to think that maybe just maybe GR2 has been dropped for the PC.Why release a game and waste that money when such negativity exsists and it's likely to flop, because it just doesn't have that tactical play PC players are going to want. I'm begining to think they've taken it back to the drawing board, cut their losses (as far as the PC is concerned), and reworked it and are going to launch it as GR3 for all platforms, And as a Launch product for X-box 2. It would make sense that if the X-box 2 offers the user near PC graphics and playability but on a console that UBI/RSE have decided that GR2 isn't worth publishing for PC and that their efforts would be better placed in working a GR3 title for all platforms.GR2 was designed from the start for the X-box, so will GR3 but with the X-box 2 coming this would make the PC and X-box 2 comparable in performance and easier to develop for both platforms side by side. This could be why UBI are keeping stum about GR2 PC because i can see a huge launch of GR3 coming this year at E3 instead. I'm certainly begining to feel that this is more and more likely the case. ← This seems the most plausible outcome to me and also is logical from a marketing standpoint. I'm certain we'll find out if this or another outcome is the case once E3 commences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X69RZX Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Here's the deal, I just got off the phone w/ Mrs. Cleo; They were developing GR2 for PC, then they had to make some revisions, and upgrades to satisfy us picky PC players. The release was looking like it was going to be way, way behind the console versions, and as it is basically a completely different version of the game, the company desided to just keep working on it, and release it as GR3. They will port it out for the consoles, perhaps the Xbox next gen console, and then they can make the whole thing worth while. Same game we've been waiting on, new name. I trust in Mrs. Cleo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR_32 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 But she's a fraud and in jail or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToKill Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 GhostRecon 3 has been on the cards for quite some time.UBI reserved Websites for GR3 and GR4 way back in November 2002, one month after they secured G2.com (someone else got GR2.net ) April 2004 they reserved sites for GR5 and 6, it's obvious to me UBI intend on making a number of Sequels to the GR series, and have done so for some time. With GR2 PC put on the back burner last year so Devs could focus on the X-box platform, then later picked up where they left off, and because of all the negative feedback from the majority of PC users, and i'm sure they listen as they visit here often, would have taken some of what was said on board, discussed viabilities etc etc... It seems very feasable that at some stage with plans for GR3 already in the pipeline (and very likely already decided and signed deal with Microsoft, for an X-box 2 Launch) that work done and alterations to GR2 for the PC would work just as well on the new X-box, so became the development of GR3. It all adds up in my mind, GR3 is GR2 PC. GR2 PC is pointless waste of money if they are and have anounced GR3 for PC,xbox1/2, PS2 ... for Late05/early06.The PC market isn't big enough to launch 2 Sequels in such a short space of time. If it were a sequel and then an expansion pack maybe, i don't think they'd even release 2 Console Sequels less than 12 months apart. UBI have publicly stated they want to lead in the FPS market, GR2 for X-box worked, for PC it'll fail unless its changed drastically, PC users aren't won over easily by pure eye candy, they use PC's because they are more versatile and also offer more controls over any gamepad, and i'm sure UBI and RSE know that.With all the competition out there the PC version needs to rock if it wants to stand a chance.I believe that modifications to PC GR2 have been sufficient enough that its a completly different game, and therefore has become GR3, All the eye candy of GR2 with the versatility of an improved GR1. Time will tell, and the next couple of months are sure gonna be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyCo Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Time will tell, and the next couple of months are sure gonna be interesting. ← ...or very boring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Tigre Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (edited) If they delay GR3 PC till after christmas, (assuming that there is no GR2 PC) and tell me we will recive info after christmas I am going to losse it. Dont get me wrong, RSE are my favorite dev's ever, period. They have stolen years of my life but UBI does call the shots, and Im just tired of taking second priority, or no priority at all. Edited March 20, 2005 by MissLoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted March 20, 2005 Author Share Posted March 20, 2005 GhostRecon 3 has been on the cards for quite some time.UBI reserved Websites for GR3 and GR4 way back in November 2002, one month after they secured G2.com (someone else got GR2.net )← Yeh, but Ubi made a half hearted attempt to get it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr1j0l3 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 ...or very boring... ← no doubt. This is just retarded. Oh, and I like how the article mentioned it was a PORT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pz3 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) ok, after recaping what all ubi has promised and hasnt delivered...... i think any one that works for them should go on strike untill something changes, the customers are getting ###### and ubi either dont realise it or dont care. and theres no one really doing anything about it... Edited March 21, 2005 by Prozac360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arms Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 ok, after recaping what all ubi has promised and hasnt delivered...... i think any one that works for them should go on strike untill something changes, the customers are getting ###### and ubi either dont realise it or dont care. and theres no one really doing anything about it... ← Everybodies going to be upset. Sighhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalker_Zero Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I continue to watch and be silent. I have been monitoring gr.net and gr.com and various other sources. After my outburst at UBI staff on gr.com forums and almost getting myself banned...all since the gr2 console crapola game debuted.......I decided to keep quiet. Because there was nothing left to shout at ubi/rse about. :| But after looking at the release schedule and news bout gr3? I must say that this is absolutely reeeeeeediculous!!! No i mean come on really!!! I know there are more important things in the world to be worried about. But things like this annoy the living heck out of me. Does anybody know what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordred Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Thats all i can say, they r really big A*s*s We wait for like bloody 4-5years and what do we get?? "It seems only time will tell if PC hard drives will ever contain Ghost Recon 2" Is that how u treath your pc community, the ones who made the game SELL in the first place??? Who gamed it first? Who made it sell? Who kept it alive for 4years? Who created mods, clans, communities around gr1? YES , WE PC gamers. I would like EVERYBODY NOT to buy any xbox or playstation or any other platform game any more in the future. Make them loose money on there and they'll come back on their hands and knees to the pc cimmunity, but i know what im gonna say............... -M- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu9812 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 To be fair, we don't know the GR2 situation. But you'd think that Ubisoft would at least come out and say something. I agree with you about PC gamers getting the GR 'brand' to sell in the first place - I hope that doesn't become a trend in the future: developers release PC game to generate interest, and then release the rest of the series only to the bigger console audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sart Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Topics Merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 This is just retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlineshooter Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 all i know i hate waiting. i want gr2 or gr3 now, til the hardware for pc is available its pointless for them trying a console port cause the next gen consoles will be a different media looking at the major tech mags, so it pointless for them how well the new consoles will be and hard to forecast a prediction on the new technology and what they will do with it... they should keep us gamers happy and get thier finger out and release the game.. Being based in australia i'm not what's available in the US, over here blu-ray hasn't even hit the domestic market nevermind the PC arena.. til it does there's no way to tell how good the hardware is til its available to use for the masses... all we're doing is running around with our heads up our backsides speculating what's going to be the next great thing to give us entertainment and what its going to be and what configuration it's going to be in... providing the thing actually works when we buy it from a store.. As for HD requirement MS has laid down to its developers, its pointless asking for a requirement that no-one but the richman has and could afford, as the average joe bloggs it still going own and use tv's that are 10-15 years old and/or some cases older.... looking at the 1st 1000 hrs of use plasma, LCD and large sceen rear projection tvs (including wide screen models) can have the have the habbit of getting image burn in the screen itself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Geezer Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 (edited) Wow...you folks still actually care about GR2? lol After months of speculating and begging for info, the primadonnas at UBI have still not been bothered to say anything to it's huge PC customer base. And I'm sorry, but RSE = UBI. There is no difference...you can call yourself the french-fry department, but you're still working at McDonalds, ya know? They just don't deserve your patronage! Plus, I almost bought Silent Hunter III, but after finding out that UBI has implemented this Starforce antipiracy scheme into Silent Hunter III, which ALOT of people are complaining about and are likening to a virus, I've added UBI to my list of idiots who will never get my business again. That makes 2 now...Valve blew it with their forced registration/Steam subscription and now UBI. Another example of idiot developers/publishers punishing their honest customers while all the pirates get their hassle-free copies off IRC and P2P (which they ALWAYS do). Just look at the EB website's SH3 section...the first few customer reviews are in. So between the complete and total apathy toward it's own customers, and implementing invasive (and for alot of honest customers game destroying) antipiracy measures in it's latest release, UBI can go stuff itself for all eternity. Valve, meet UBI, you two should get along just fine. I'll quit PC games altogether before I ever give these people my money again. Besides, what's the point of spending thousands on a high end video card, the fastest Ram and latest CPU when you can play most newer games on a 150 dollar console? But hey...keep begging for them to "throw you a bone". lol...can it get any more pathetic? Update: Don't bother asking where I found this because I DO NOT CONDONE PIRACY, but it is ironic that despite their Starforce copy protection, a quick search revealed that there are at least a half dozen cracked versions of SH3 available on the net (1.7gb). So yet again, the pirates are getting their free copies while the honest paying customers are getting jerked around by malware copy protection. UBI should take note that their lunatic antipiracy measures have not only failed, but are totally enraging many of their honest paying customers. As much as I feel I'm missing out cuz I refuse to dload the cracked version, UBI should feel they are missing out on yet another customer, and, ironically, are probably converting alot of other would-be paying customers into pirates -Some people with DVD drives can't run the game because of starforce and are being told "tough luck" when they try to return it. Aparently it messes with your IDE channels and even interferes with some usb devices. Nice job! Edited March 22, 2005 by Old_Geezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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