Rocky Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Frankly, I'm sick and tired of UBI's attitude towards it's customers and also how RSE became their humble servant. I really don't care about GR2 anymore.....or any other product from them. I've set my mind to [OFP: DR]. ← Now that is what worries me. People are genuinely starting to feel this way about GR2, and looking to other franchises for their entertainment and long term custom. Not only purely GR gamers, but the people, like D, who have extended the life, playability, and enjoyment of the original by working on and producing mods. Losing people like that, and once they get stuck into another game they will be lost, is a big dent in the future (long term) success of further GR releases IMO. Irreparable damage is being done by this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_1 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 The King is dead. Long live the King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Splash Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Now that is what worries me. People are genuinely starting to feel this way about GR2, and looking to other franchises for their entertainment and long term custom. Irreparable damage is being done by this situation. ← Yes, I've given up.......and this is why! DS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR_32 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I just wonder what the folks at RSE feel about all of this, especially after reading comments made by the people most wanting the game *sigh*. I wouldn't be surprised if some people working there are more ###### off than us, they either lose their job if they do something against the wishes of the higher ups and get sued or stay quiet while the people who enjoyed the first game all go insane and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicide Commando Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 What Rocky says is true. Ubi really screwed the pooch with Raven Shield mod support which really served as a bad omen for the future. Pity, RSE used to be the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR_32 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 RSE could still be the best if it wasn't for the braintrust that is UBI, running the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannik Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I managed to find the actual source document that the 'news' sites have been quoting. It was hidden behind a broken link on Ubisoft's press site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManuNice Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I just wonder what the folks at RSE feel about all of this, especially after reading comments made by the people most wanting the game *sigh*. I wouldn't be surprised if some people working there are more ###### off than us, they either lose their job if they do something against the wishes of the higher ups and get sued or stay quiet while the people who enjoyed the first game all go insane and move on. ← All I know is that they are online reading this thread alot more than usual, yesterday I saw 3 of them reading it at the same time, right now there's one... At least we know RSE care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Tigre Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 You are correct, I love the RSE guys, they are extremly talentd and truly love there jobs, ubi stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babydave Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 (edited) Pity, RSE used to be the best... they still are the best IMO. Its just ubi that have wronged us so far, RSE cant do anything about it. Also i dont remember a time when i havent seen a RSE guy on the forums, its not that they dont care. Its outta there hands. Im looking forward to BF2 and [OFP: DR], its not the end of the world if GR2 never appears. (I wouldnt have said that last year but ubi have alienated us beyond what i consider acceptable.) Edited March 19, 2005 by babydave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X69RZX Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 It's just hard for me to understand why a company would allow their fans to develop such discord towards them, when a simple yes, no, maybe so would really make a huge difference. Of course, I realise the RSE peeps that visit here aren't at the top of the COC, so they can only do what they can, however, it's extremely dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantar45 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I managed to find the actual source document that the 'news' sites have been quoting. It was hidden behind a broken link on Ubisoft's press site. It's Sabotoogery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Now that is what worries me. People are genuinely starting to feel this way about GR2, and looking to other franchises for their entertainment and long term custom. Irreparable damage is being done by this situation. ← Yes, I've given up.......and this is why! DS ← I agree, it appears that UBI is just the distributor of RSE products. RSE makes the car, while UBI tries to sell them. Guess it's nice to know they(UBI) don't work on commission. They would surely be hurting for the money to live on. Since GR3 has been introduced, I'm guessing it won't even hit as a PC title. everything is going console. But hey I appreciate UBI helping me out by looking to other titles from other developers. I will stick to GR. I don't have to fork over cash for it anymore since I bought it. Is anyone else here going to stick with GR as well? I'm also awaiting the release of [OFP: DR] next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sup Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 That's simply not fixing what isn't broken. ← I assume you've played it then? ← BIA? Uh... Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa6 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Now, the extensive list of games scheduled by the publisher over the next 12 months does not mention Ghost Recon 2 at all (it does have an Xbox expansion pack for the game due to be released this summer). Furthermore, Ubi Soft has Ghost Recon 3 as set for release this fall and a PC version is listed as one of the many platforms it will appear on. I take this to mean that perhaps GR2 might not see a PC drive near you at all. I'm taking the above quote from the computer game magazine to mean that GR2 isn't meant for the PC. I think GR3 will be for the PC this Christmas. I don't know, this all seems all too wierd. GR2 for the consoles and GR3 for the PC's this fall winter time frame. Anyone else agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMiguel Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I have to say I feel the same about this as a couple others. I've sat back and watched other games come and go sorta waiting to see what GR2 had to offer so I could focus my modding efforts at it if it proved worthwhile to do so. With all this nonsense going on, even if a GR2 comes out for the PC, its somewhat obvious to me that modder support and such is going to be a joke because UBIs focused on consoles and is not to concerned with the PC user/modder. This might change again with the Xbox2 version if it truely will support modding. But for now I'm on the line trying to decide whether to say forget the GR franchise and move on to other arenas. And I'm not leaning in the GR direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaka Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Even if GR2 is moddable, with GR3 due so soon after, (if it actually is, would it be worth the effort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le Tigre Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Ill say this, IF we do indeed get both GR2 and GR3 in the next year I sure hope they are compatible with each other. I dont want to buy a new game ever 12 months, I like expansion packs, I like to build the community around a game that lasts for 3 years. Its good for the fans and modders, which are one in the same. I like have the large selection of maps to choose from, its what makes on line play so good. I hope they dont forget that. But honestly I dont see us getting two GR's in a year, I think GR2 has bit the bullet, and after waiting for the smallest shred of info about the PC version since last E3 and way longer, its a little frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantar45 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Wonder if GR2 will be a add-on mission pack for the PC GR3. So GR3, then several months later the GR2 add-on is released while GR4 ships out for the consoles. Thats what just keeps popping into my head, hopefully I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonKappel Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 All I know is that I got GR1 shortly after it came out and have played it ever since. No other FPS were a hit for me. I am still happy with GR1 and could play it for years to come. But, in spite of all that: ###### UBI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR6 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Whats this blue news? Ive never heard of it. ← Blue's News is a highly-respected gaming news site worth visiting daily: http://www.bluesnews.com/ The article in question is "Ghost Recon 2 PC Becoming A Ghost?" http://www.cgonline.com/content/view/532/2/ (Incidentally, the article is written by John "JCal" Callaham who did the vast majority of news posts at HomeLAN until he got his new job at CGM. Ironically, HomeLAN Fed's news site folded soon after he left Just goes to show how much he contributed to the viablity of that site) Personally, I'm not too worried about GR2 PC. Good things come to those who wait, and there's no doubt that a real sequel for GR will eventually come back to the PC ... whether it's GR2 PC or GR2 gets cancelled and becomes GR3 PC as some are speculating. In the meantime, there are enough quality PC games coming out this year (Brothers in Arms, Chaos Theory, SWAT 4, Battlefield 2, etc.) to keep me busy until the GR PC sequel comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornToKill Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 (edited) Consider this. All the insesant rantings about GR2 PC content and the huge amount of discord that was present, not only in these forums.The stories i've heard from beta testers that say GR2 PC sucks.The recent Ubi press release with no mention of GR2 but GR3.I'm slowly begining to think that maybe just maybe GR2 has been dropped for the PC.Why release a game and waste that money when such negativity exsists and it's likely to flop, because it just doesn't have that tactical play PC players are going to want. I'm begining to think they've taken it back to the drawing board, cut their losses (as far as the PC is concerned), and reworked it and are going to launch it as GR3 for all platforms, And as a Launch product for X-box 2. It would make sense that if the X-box 2 offers the user near PC graphics and playability but on a console that UBI/RSE have decided that GR2 isn't worth publishing for PC and that their efforts would be better placed in working a GR3 title for all platforms.GR2 was designed from the start for the X-box, so will GR3 but with the X-box 2 coming this would make the PC and X-box 2 comparable in performance and easier to develop for both platforms side by side. This could be why UBI are keeping stum about GR2 PC because i can see a huge launch of GR3 coming this year at E3 instead. I'm certainly begining to feel that this is more and more likely the case. Also as ZJJ hasn't yet released her report, is this too because it contains material about GR3??????????????????????? Edited March 20, 2005 by BornToKill_TAW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR6 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I managed to find the actual source document that the 'news' sites have been quoting. It was hidden behind a broken link on Ubisoft's press site. ← Nice find Dannik, thanks! So my conclusion from looking at it: If whoever wrote up the document couldn't get a simple thing like formatting the fiscal quarter headings correct, I would not be too surprised that mentioning GR2 PC was neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYR_32 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Also as ZJJ hasn't yet released her report, is this too because it contains material about GR3??????????????????????? Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vir2L Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 Like the sands of the hour-glass, these are the days of our lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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