Ok, I am a VBS1 NooB, but ...

[ArdeBee 0]

Hello Everybody,

I just heard a few days ago about VBS1. Since then i have found quite a lot of info on the sim/game. I was wondering "Is it worth the amount of money they are charging?"

I mean, I love playing Americas Army for example, but cheaters are rampant there. But he, it's free. To me VBS1 is the summum of realism, as far as I can see. My question is to you all, who bothers reading this post, to comment on VBS1 ? Maybe that is the last push for me Ordering this game, because I am quite into SF stuff etc.

Cheers,

ArdeBee

the Netherlands

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And what about all those weapon attachments, do they actually work, the flashlight, laser pointer, m203 etc?

Can you take personnel with you in a chopper?

You see quite Noobish all

[Zebb 7]

Lol, have you played OFP in the past mate ?, VBS1 is a better/different version of that in reality, it comes into its own when played online with other players who know what they are doing, i would recommend you take a look at OFP first if you havent played it before, there are a lot of new addons that you can get for the game now and they have made it a very good but a lot cheaper version of VBS1...

Check out the forum:

OFP

[ArdeBee 0]

Lol, have you played OFP in the past mate ?, VBS1 is a better/different version of that in reality, it comes into its own when played online with other players who know what they are doing, i would recommend you take a look at OFP first if you havent played it before, there are a lot of new addons that you can get for the game now and they have made it a very good but a lot cheaper version of VBS1... 

Check out the forum:

OFP

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Yes I played OFP in the past. I loved the movement of freedom. But it with older weaponry, and VBS1 with modern equipment and modern SF.

[NightCrawler 137]

The mods have changed the face of OFP now you can have almost any weapon your heart desires, just look for some of the mods. It's not the same game as it was when released.

[el nino foxhound 0]

Well, I am very new to the game aswell.

I first bought the core game to see if I would like it enough to buy more (and my purse.......it was empty ).

Within a few days of playing I decided to get all addons which are available.

The reality of this game has gotten me. I have been playing only GR for the last few years cause it was the only game that could please me every night for 3 years. Now that I got VBS I have to admit I gave up lots of GR time to play it. In single player it is really great, I havent tried MP yet but that should be a blast reading all reactions from others and looking at the screenshots.

Run and gun and you are dead. Command your team to make sure you take out groups of enemy positions is really the best.

Also, and that is very important too, the community is very nice. Lots of free addons are available aswell as lots of custom missions.

What also is great is that there is the possibility to use vehicles.....lots of fun when you drive a jeep or truck or plane or whatever.......I just need some driving lessons that is all

We can never tell you for sure you will like it, I bet there are enough people who bought it and think it was a waste of money, but my opinion is very clear about the game.

I love it, I like it and I want more of it.

Now back to work

Edited January 14, 2005 by el nino foxhound

[dekela 0]

zebb is spot on with the mp side, as it is really designed for mp. sp missions that ship with vbs are limited, although fun. but......there are literally heaps of mp and sp missions to d/load now, and many more in the pipeline.

el nino foxhound is also right, this sim has me hooked, and i cant get enough. whether it mp or playing one of my own mission creations, i love it.

will you like it, or is it worth the money.......only you will know for sure

cheers......

[2nd Ranger 1]

There's absolutely no way it is worth the full asking price, in my opinion. It's essentially a better-looking version of OFP. I fail to see how any military organisation could use it as an effective training platform.

But that said, we're a bunch of gaming folk, to which VBS is best suited.

Edited January 14, 2005 by 2nd Ranger

[ArdeBee 0]

Ok, saw a lot of screenies right now, all those weapons look nice. But those attachments, do they actually work?

Cheers

Edited January 14, 2005 by ArdeBee

[2nd Ranger 1]

The flashlights, AN/PEQ-2s and things? No, they don't work. Another reason it fails as a training sim. The 203s and optics do, though.

Edited January 14, 2005 by 2nd Ranger

[EricJ 0]

The optics are first rate, though the ACOG Reflex isn't the way it should be, but it's got a smaller dot than the Aimpoint. Otherwise, I asked about the flashlights (had the same q earlier on) may be in VBS2, whenever that comes out.

[Gordo_Viper 0]

There's absolutely no way it is worth the full asking price, in my opinion. It's essentially a better-looking version of OFP. I fail to see how any military organisation could use it as an effective training platform.

But that said, we're a bunch of gaming folk, to which VBS is best suited.

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Sorry to hear that mate but the Military use it on LAN's often and have had up to 120 Users on at one time. It's not a 100% realsitic simulation but they can use RL tactics, formations and often have Helo pilots flying Helo's, Armour driving the armour about to replicate a real combined Arms unit..

The other tools u don't have yet are the AAR abnd Observer and this is where it gets a lot of its training value in....Observer allows someone to observe in RL time Unit performance, movement etc..

AAR- After Action Review - act like a black box recorder on a aeroplane it records piles of data for analysis as the battle is fought and at the end it can be accessed and the whole enagement replayed, slowed down- look at individual soldiers, follows their movements and records other data etc...

The there's the Military specific changes as VBS1 and indeed OFP are so modular that can be altered to increase the realism and indeed there are packs in development that greatly increase the realism factor- indeed there are Military only modifications in place within the ADF.

But at end of the day it's not a perfect product but it's a damn sight better than anything else out there IMHO...

(Note I'm not military but I do know a thing or two about whats goes on in the ADF and in regard to VBS1)

[Sup 0]

may be in VBS2, whenever that comes out.

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I'd say 2007, considering [OFP: DR] = 2006.

[Zebb 7]

Your right there Gordo, the military gave them the spec that they wanted for training purposes and thats what they got, it does the job they want it for and thats why things like snazzy graphics arent that important to them, once you have played it a few times you dont actually "see" the graphics as such because if you are working with a group of players who know what they are doing you are too busy covering arcs, other players moving up, enemy positions, other threats, your own next move/target etc etc, thats what the game was designed for and thats what it does best, and as time goes on and the VBS1 gaming community grows things will appear to improve certain aspects of the game that werent considered that important when it was first designed, and as long as they dont try to alter what is an excellent trainer imo then that can only be a good thing .