Stalker Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 what the??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babydave Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 thats their short 5.56 carbine isnt it? Apparently it was used a lot by the SAS in Northern Ireland because of its compactness and stopping power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supasniper Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 it's nowt new, take 1/3 an mp5, 1/3 a hk33, 1/3 vorsprung durch technik and bake for a couple hours and you get the hk53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted October 23, 2004 Share Posted October 23, 2004 Plus, expect lethality to be non-existant past 100 yards. So much velocity is lost in sub 14" barrels for a 5.56 that fragmentations suffers considerably. There's a reason the M4 isn't shorter than it is right now, basically a balancing act between compactness and terminal performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militiaman Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 One thing I cannot understand. Why do the main M-8 configurations have barrels set at 12.5 inches in length? Didn't they learn from Somalia from the short little CAR-15 10 inch barrels. To have a really effective 5.56 round it requires atleast near a 16 inch barrel. Plus, expect lethality to be non-existant past 100 yards. So much velocity is lost in sub 14" barrels for a 5.56 that fragmentations suffers considerably. There's a reason the M4 isn't shorter than it is right now, basically a balancing act between compactness and terminal performance. ← Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooK Posted October 24, 2004 Share Posted October 24, 2004 (edited) One thing I cannot understand. Why do the main M-8 configurations have barrels set at 12.5 inches in length? Didn't they learn from Somalia from the short little CAR-15 10 inch barrels. To have a really effective 5.56 round it requires atleast near a 16 inch barrel. The XM8 is nothing more than a G36 with a new exterior. What is the barrel length of the G36K? I think the military has since requested that the barrel length for the short version be 14.5", thus identical to the M4. If they'd let our military use hollow front core bullets, barrel length (bullet velocity) wouldn't hold near the importance it does now. Anyone want to buy an HK53 clone? Check out Vector Arms. They have the semi-auto models for sale and even short barreled ones if your state allows and you get approved for an SBR. Price: $1350 - 1550. http://www.vectorarms.com/guns/hk_rifles.htm Edited October 24, 2004 by RooK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.W.A.T-Hondo Posted October 25, 2004 Share Posted October 25, 2004 I saw that picture on HKPRO.COM. Apparently they removed the flash-hider on the HK53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted October 28, 2004 Share Posted October 28, 2004 The G36C has an even bigger muzzle blast than that. I was amazed seeing an M4 and a G36C being fired side by side. The gasses expelled from the G36C created a much larger blast than that of the M4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assault reserve Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The G36C has an even bigger muzzle blast than that. I was amazed seeing an M4 and a G36C being fired side by side. The gasses expelled from the G36C created a much larger blast than that of the M4. ← The larger the flash and more noise the easier an enemy can find whos shooting at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeXaN Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The G36C has an even bigger muzzle blast than that. I was amazed seeing an M4 and a G36C being fired side by side. The gasses expelled from the G36C created a much larger blast than that of the M4. ← The larger the flash and more noise the easier an enemy can find whos shooting at him. ← Or crap his pants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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