Rocky 1,224 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 So, what sort of CPU temps do you guys expect in your PC. This is the first PC I've had where there is a monitoring faciltiy. Right now its mid thirtys, but I think it's been higher. What sort of temps to you experience? What's the safest high that is recommended? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteKnight77 1 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 What processor did you get? My AMD 2400+ (OCed to a 2600+) runs stable at 44C/111F this time of year and can reach 52C/125F when gaming. If you are in the mid 30s I would say that it is good. Remember that I also have more hardware stuffed inside mine than you I would suppose (besides the vid and sound cards, I have a IDE controller, 2 HDs and 3 optical drives). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NYR_32 6 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 With my P4 2.4B I usually run at about 39-41 idle and 51 under full load....with a Zalman 7000AL-CU HSF and AS3....but I have heard rumors that my motherboard (the ASUS P4PE) reports temps higher than they really are (approximately 8-10 degress C off) again thats just a rumor. Highest I'd recommend errrm....not sure cause I'm the dude whose CPU exploded.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) With an AMD Barton 2500+ OC'ed to a 3200+, my temps are around 45Cish, with an ambient temp of 77-80F. With an Intel CPU, I wouldnt worry unless you start seeing temps in 60s, although it can go higher IIRC. I love Thermaltake. Edited June 2, 2004 by Crimson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syncopator 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hmmm..my core (XP3000+) reaches 55-56C under load. Thats with my case fan disconnected to reduce noise. Mobo runs at about 32C Whats the limit on the 3000 - I gather it has a larger core surface area than previos Athlons - does this give it more headroom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blistr 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) It depends on the CPU you have installed. In my experience... Intel P4 min 20C/max 29C at idle, min 22C/max 40C under normal use and min 36C/max 55C whilst gaming. Intel P4's struggle at about 65C - 70C. Recomended max 50C. AMD will always run hotter than Intel and can reach 55C during normal use and 65C whilst gaming. It is not uncommon for an AMD CPU to exceed 70C at times (although not recommended for sustained periods). AMD's struggle at about 80C - 85C. Recommended max 60C. Overclocking will increase your temps dramatically. Hope this helps blistr P.S. Is the temp monitoring facility onboard or a seperate unit such as an Aerogate II? Edited June 2, 2004 by blistr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supasniper 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 i've got a 2500 barton o/c'ed to 3200 and it's at 42C (cpu), 35C (sys), 26C (hdd's) I love Thermaltake. me too also i love chieftec Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recon 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 How do you find out your CPU temperature? Do most CPUs have the feature built-in or do you need to buy some sort of separate thermometer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[TCS]BlackMamba 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 (edited) How do you find out your CPU temperature? Do most CPUs have the feature built-in or do you need to buy some sort of separate thermometer? Usually if a CPU's temp needs monitoring then the MOBO has sensors built in. I run a 2500 AMD XP Barton on a Soltek Barebone and I usually get 47 deg from my CPU 58 from my ABS II and 28 from my RT1. As you can tell my MOBO has 3 sensors. Whats the limit on the 3000 - I gather it has a larger core surface area than previos Athlons - does this give it more headroom? I have set up a limit for mine if it goes over 65 deg for more than 2 mins it shuts down. Edited June 2, 2004 by [TCS]BlackMamba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Syncopator 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 If your BIOS is not too old - it will show u at least your idle temps. Most mobos now allow for constant monitoring - usually thru software...common examples being AsusProbe and the likes of cpuid....allowing you to check them under various system loads. EDIT>>> took ages to type this out. Sorry! - Anyway, what BlackMamba says... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pz3 338 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 the 2500 club same here Xp2500 OC to 3200+ @ 2.34ghz.... uninstalled monitors. was at 2.39ghz running idle@ 49*C and fired up on farcry for about an hour got upto 56*F its cranked down about 3 deg since thoe... havnt played with it in a while Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recon 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 If your BIOS is not too old - it will show u at least your idle temps. How do you view your BIOS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supasniper 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 press delete just after the mem check Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recon 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 press delete just after the mem check Is this on Windows XP? I tried pressing delete as few times as it was starting up but nothing happened. How do you know when the mem check is? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NurFACE 0 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 http://www.techadvice.com/tech/B/BIOS_Enter.htm this should clear things up for you on entering bios. A common practice to find out how to do pc go to google and type your search idea narrow it down makes it easier to search. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteKnight77 1 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 If you have a name brand PC, it may be different from our home built models. If a splash screen shows up with the PCs name, try hitting the Tab key and you should be able to see the key needed to enter the BIOS. Some PCs use the F1 key like my Gateway while others will use the Delete key. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[TCS]BlackMamba 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 (edited) Is this on Windows XP? I tried pressing delete as few times as it was starting up but nothing happened. How do you know when the mem check is? If your still stuck recon ill help you next time I come round Edit With an AMD Barton 2500+ OC'ed to a 3200+, How do I do that? Edited June 3, 2004 by [TCS]BlackMamba Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ghostie 0 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 In a hot room I'm at 42-45 idle when I fire up 2 instances of prime95 it will go up to 60-63. With my A/C on it'll be 39-42 and 55-60. my 2.6c is oc'd to 250/200 on a 5:4 divider and i bumped my voltage up to 1.625. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CR6 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 What sort of temps to you experience? What's the safest high that is recommended? Rocky, with regards to Pentium 4's: Desktop Pentium 4's can likely still safely operate in the 60C range. They have a safety feature that makes your system auto-shut off somewhere around 70C to prevent your CPU from frying. Tom's Hardware had a hilarious video of a P4 vs. Athlon operating without heatsinks 3 years ago I think. The P4 shut down and wouldn't boot, but the Athlon actually started smoking and was destroyed. Found it: Hot Spot - How Modern Processors Cope With Heat Emergencies http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20010917/index.html All that being said, when looking at CPU temps, you need to see what they are like at full load (i.e. gaming, video editing - CPU usage near 100% for prolonged periods) and at minimal usage (i.e. when idle, doing e-mail, browsing etc.) Note that cooling depends on several factors: 1) Type of heatsink/fan 2) Number of fans in case 3) Metal used for case - aluminum cases can be a few degrees cooler as the dissapate heat better. 4) Type of thermal compound - can make up to 4-5 degrees difference For my 2 systems, off the top of my head: My older P4 2.5GHz Northwood with stock Intel heatsink and fan and thermal pad, and generic steel case, 2 case fans: Idle = 36C, Full load = 45C My new P4 3.4GHz Northwood (which could be a real cooker without proper cooling) with stock Intel heatsink and fan, Arctic Silver Ceramique and Lian-Li aluminum case, 4 case fans: Idle = 38C, Full load = 51C (However, the Arctic Silver Ceramique takes 25-30 hours of CPU operation to "set" for maximum conductivity, so hopefully the temps will go down a degree more after I use the system longer ) I personally like to see my CPU's running less than 50C if possible. That being said, I have an old Pentium 200 MMX that I am typing this response on and it's always running at 60C with a heatsink/fan for the last 5 years without a hiccup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dannik 43 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Tom's Hardware had a hilarious video of a P4 vs. Athlon operating without heatsinks 3 years ago I think. The P4 shut down and wouldn't boot, but the Athlon actually started smoking and was destroyed. While that's entirely correct, the reason it happened was that the P4 had a sensor embedded to shut it down when it hit dangerous temps, while the Athlon XP relies on the mainboard designers to sense and shut down. The AMD chip was in a board that had the sensor either not present or disabled (going on dusty memory here, forgive me) so it released the blue smoke. It was a factual report, but a bit dodgy of Tom's Hardware to not research or mention the fact that it was at best a design flaw at the motherboard manufacturer's end and at worst a deliberate omission. Tom's Hardware has developed a bit of a dodgy reputation at times due to this sort of article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CR6 0 Posted June 4, 2004 Share Posted June 4, 2004 Tom's Hardware has developed a bit of a dodgy reputation at times due to this sort of article. Yeah, I actually don't visit his site too often for the exact reasons you mentioned. I always take his stuff with a grain of salt. Funny thing is that Tom himself hasn't been credited with writing an article there for a looong time ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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