sopmod - socom

[ingeloop 8]

hi there!

here comes an unusual question for all of you )

whats´s the diff betwen sopmod and socom?

and

acog, elcan and reflex, is it just a personal pref.

or is one sight better than the other in certain situations?

best regards/ ingeloop

[Stalker 0]

sopmod = special operations modification

socom = specail operation command

[Chems 0]

Im not expert, but ACOG is a longer range scope, not like sniper, i think its like 4x10, good for M4s etc, and then the reflex is meant for the more urban fighting, and Elcan, thats the big one also isnt it, I think thats like the ACOG. Also ACOG can do night vision I think,

but dont quote me I dont know much of anything.

[McNamee 0]

The ACOG is a short range scope. ACOG isn't night vision, but it does have illuminated reticles, useful for low light conditions.

[ingeloop 8]

sopmod = special operations modification

socom = specail operation command

thanx for the quick replys guys, but im no wiser about

the names socom and sopmod though.

m4sopmod and m4socom is it the same thing basically or?

/ingeloop

[Hieronymus 0]

SOPMOD: Special Operations Peculiar Modification

The Special Operations Peculiar Modification to the M4 Carbine (SOPMOD M4) Accessory kit is a series of accessories developed for M4s and M4A1s belonging to units of the United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). These accessories include an ACOG (Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight) Reflex sight (non-telescopic), an ACOG 4X Scope, Visible Laser, IR Pointer/Illuminator, Quck Detachable Sound Suppressor, Visible Light, M203 Grenade Launcher with Quick Detachable Mount, Modified M203 Leaf Sight, and Rail Interface System (RIS).

Quote from the arms section @ this great site over HERE

[Parabellum 12]

The ACOG is a medium-range scope. The Trijicon Reflex is a short-range scope, designed for CQB. The ELCAN is a 3.5x (IIRC) magnification sight, and it's more commonly used by Canadian troops than US troops. As far as usefulness per situation, it depends on what you want to do. The ACOG scope is just that - a scope. It has an illuminated reticule, to help you see your reticule in various lighting situations. The Reflex has a tritium insert, which is a radioactive material. The Reflex is superb for CQB work. I like it because it really doesn't need to be zeroed, and it's made to be used in conjunction with the iron sights of the AR15. If you've got it mounted on one of those half-moon clips that fit the A2 carrying handle, you can just pop the Reflex and mount off, and use strictly the iron sights.

[DWG 0]

m4sopmod and m4socom is it the same thing basically or?

SOPMOD is the rail mount and accessories

SOCOM are the people who use it.

[EricJ 0]

The Reflex is superb for CQB work. I like it because it really doesn't need to be zeroed, and it's made to be used in conjunction with the iron sights of the AR15. If you've got it mounted on one of those half-moon clips that fit the A2 carrying handle, you can just pop the Reflex and mount off, and use strictly the iron sights.

I don't think so Parabellum, as we've had to zero alot of reflex scopes (mainly also for 300m, it's just a habit anyways) and considering the Aimpoint it has to be zeroed. I don't have much experience with the Trijicon ones though. Or else you think you're pointing at something, but totally different. The reason I say this is that I've had my M68 borelight zeroed, and then did an unofficial test-fire somewhere out here, and I hit the bottle first shot. Now, the gunner on the Humvee I was on had an un-zeroed one, and he shot at the same bottle I just shot. He hit the cinderblock off to the right. Matter of fact, I confirmed, then re-zeroed my M68 and still came up just above my initial laser boresight, so just slapping a Reflex sight on there doesn't always gaurantee you will get first hit. If anything, shoot front sight post, or use the large aperture..

[Parabellum 12]

I was actually talking about the Trijicon Reflex, not the M68 Aimpoint. The Trijicon Reflex does have adjustment screws, but they shouldn't need to be re-zeroed each time you attach or remove the sight from the weapon. Just get it set up the first time, and it should be good to go. In most of the configurations I've seen, the Reflex's aimpoint is actually sitting right on the front sight, so if it's off, it should be readily visible. Also, any shooting that I'd be doing would be under 50 meters, whereas you're probably shooting out to what... 300 meters or so. That said, I don't have the experience you have, so I'll take your word on the matter.

Edited May 20, 2004 by Parabellum

[CR6 0]

here comes an unusual question for all of you )

whats´s the diff betwen sopmod and socom?

I'm guessing what you are trying to ask is why the M4 SOPMOD in GR:IT is called the M4 SOCOM. The answer to your question is that there is no such nomenclature as "M4 SOCOM" in real-life. It is a made-up name Red Storm gave to the real-life M4 SOPMOD only for use in the game.

RSE does change the names of weapons on purpose, for either legal reasons or other reasons I'm not really sure of. For example see the GR-R GR1 weapons page: http://ghostrecon.3dretreat.com/grweapons.asp

Here are some other examples: the M4 should be the M4A1, the M16A2 looks more like a M16A4, the MP5 should be a MP5A4, the MP5 SD should be the MP5SD5, etc.

[EricJ 0]

I was actually talking about the Trijicon Reflex, not the M68 Aimpoint.  The Trijicon Reflex does have adjustment screws, but they shouldn't need to be re-zeroed each time you attach or remove the sight from the weapon.  Just get it set up the first time, and it should be good to go.

Ahh okay, I misunderstood what you meant in the first post. Yeah, you are correct, once you take the time to zero it, it's golden, though the main thing that most people need to realize is to remember where exactly you mounted it at. When I signed out a Trijicon Reflex, I had the forward bar on T12 (number on top of the upper reciever) and since I still use the M68, I have the mounting bar on T10, etc. You put it somewhere else, and you're asking for trouble.

As far as zeroing for range, it's been done with some Scouts I knew at Fort Hood, and one NCO said once they got it zeroed for 300m, they were dropping them almost like flies. And a couple days ago, when I was qualifying (and confirming zero on my Aimpoint) the NCOIC took his M4 mit Aimpoint, and just tore the hell out of the head of the 300m zero target. That's something you can never forget.

And as a matter of fact, the user manual for the Trijicon Reflex shows where to place the triangle for 300m as well, as additional shooting tips when using the sight.

Edited May 21, 2004 by EricJ