BlueRose_76 0 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 For all you native english guys, whats the origin of: "Heard it through the grapevine" Yeah, like in the song. I know it means like; 'they say' or its like gossip. But where does it come from and in what context its usually said? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kewl 0 Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 grapevines were associated with telegraph lines somewhere along the line, for by the time of the Civil war a report by grapevine telegraph was common slang for a rumor. The idea behind the expression is probably not rumors sent over real telegraph lines, but the telegraphic speed with which rumor mongers can transmit canards with their own rude mouth-to-mouth telegraph system. From the Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins? by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997). In the early days of telegraphy, US companies rushed to put up telegraph poles, some made none too well and some actually using trees rather than poles. To some, the tangled wires resembled the wild vines found in California, hence a Grapevine. During the US Civil War the telegraph was used extensively, but the messages were sometime unreliable, hence the association of rumour on the grapevine. The phrase first appeared in print in 1852. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueRose_76 0 Posted April 13, 2004 Author Share Posted April 13, 2004 Ha, thanks kewl. The whole day that famous song in the head and after a couple of hours i was like; wth am i singing anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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