Aerio Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 (edited) Acctually, if a SEAL squad missed a target such as a SAM or any other armor I'm sure it would be far from "okay". And besides, making a head shot with the right sniper rifle would be easy for any skilled sniper. And if you going to make a 100yrd. shot, why bother using a sniper rifle. An M16A2, M16A4 (or M4 for those of you who don't know your guns), or an M14 is plenty sufficient. Any of the M16A models are accurate at up to 300-400yrds. While an M14 is accurate up 700yrds. You could slap a site on any of these guns and they'de be just as effective. And police stand offs? There isn't one police car that doesn't have an M16 sitting in the back of it. Edited February 25, 2004 by Aerio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 <sigh> If you say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slackbladder Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Aerio, please re-read my post about the M.O. portion of the brain. If you know anything about stress, about the physiological effects of stress, about the methods of controlling those reactions to stress, if you know ANYTHING about acting in a professional manner under pressure, then please share it. Otherwise, keep it to yourself. That 165 yd shot was awesome because nobody died despite large odds against that eventuality. I can hit a torso at 200 yards with a rifle. Being able to hit a ping-pong ball at the same distance with one shot is a different matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruin Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 Regarding the SWAT sniper who shot the gun fromt he guy's hand... If memory serves, he was an ex-Marine Sniper, so he hardly qualifies as SWAT. I meant SWAT trained snipers, with no other previous experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 (edited) Well let's see, being a sniper in the Marine Corps myself, I would hardly say that we're under qualified. You have to remember, SWAT is a bunch of super qualified police officers, not an anti-terrorist force. I have to say, a 165 yrd. shot to the MO is pretty impressive, I know I couldn't do that. Head shots are a piece of cake, but an MO shot... I'm more used to moving targets. If I ever landed an MO shot, it would be mostly luck. That and I've never exactly examined any of my targets that close. Sorry if I offended you. An MO shot is amazing, but 165 yrd. shot isn't. Your post made it sound like the distance was the amazing part of it. Thanks for clearing it up. Oh yeah, I saw that one shot that took the revolver out of the guys hand, pretty amazing! And funny! Especially when they tackled him and the chair. Edited February 27, 2004 by Aerio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I didn't see that part about the stress. But to tell you the truth, I never even think about it. I've taken so many shots, stress doesn't bother me so much. Never realy shot in between hostages or anything that risky.Some guys that shoot with me say prayers. There's also a drug that a lot of snipers used to use way back. It was called Diazpam. I'm not quite sure if it's still around but I know I don't use it. Supposedly it dropped your heart rate and steadied your shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slackbladder Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 (edited) Diazepam is known to civilians as "Valium" - it calms a person, therefore slowing the heart rate, enabling fine motor control to be maintained. If you're in a combat zone with gunfire in your earhole and buddies being shot to pieces, you're gonna be stressed in a serious way. The added advantage of being drugged into tranquility would make you a better shot under extreme conditions. I'm not sure if the ARMY/Marines has developed a system to make their snipers unflinchably calm under the most horrific pressure and chaos, but they didn't back then - hence the valium. EDIT: Sorry if I appeared rude to you in my previous post. Armchair warriors who deride the efforts of others without knowing their ###### from their elbow get under my skin. You have my respect for refraining from tearing me a new ######. Once again, my humblest apologies. Edited February 27, 2004 by Slackbladder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n New Guy Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 (edited) ok fella's lets just take a deep breath................... ok xhale when we (NH Army Guard FA (Field Arillery M198 155MM TOWED HOOOOOAH), now on active duty status) zero our rifles we shoot at a 300m black thing on a piece of paper at 25m away and we get 3 shots in 1 group to get our sights ready "im not going to debate whos better" cause everyone has personal weapons at home to train on or some may have longer trigger time shooting at plastic things or paper targets at the range, but if someone can get a 3 round grouping within a half dollar EDIT!! thats the circle size on the target to represent center mass i believe at 300m theyre good to go. 165 yards with a scope dialed in on someones nogin any private "in training" can do that. either way u look at it it was a clean shoot and a nice shot. Edited February 27, 2004 by F'n New Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 Hey it's all cool. I love talkin with guys who know a lot about this kind of stuff. You always can learn something new. That and it's a little refreshing to know that there is other people out there with the same interests and/or hobbies. And besides, a 165yrd shot or a 1.9mile shot, either way it's still sniping and a whole lot of fun! Snipe on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n New Guy Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 yeah i agree but sometimes u get alot of know-it-alls but its funny to watch them make fools of themselves talking about stuff theyve only read in a book or watched on t.v. and esp. played in a video game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper82 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 (edited) Uhmm, awhile ago we discussed what was Black Ops and what was Spec Ops. We all agreed on "Black Ops=psychos with guns and Spec Ops=Trained psychos with guns." So, if Black Ops really have no formal affiliation, then I'm pretty sure they dont have a standard uniform to begin with. And guns? Whatever they can carry, really. --Harrm Now I might be wrong but Aren't black ops just regular spec ops but they offically never happended. But I might be wrong because i am basing this on what i read in tom clancy books. And I imagine that they just get a camoflauge uniform suffiecent to the enviroment. Edited September 9, 2004 by sniper82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostGhost Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 (edited) So, say you find a Ghillie Suit that perfectly matchs the enviroment you normally play in while airsofting, would said ghillie suit be advatagous for you even if you weren't a sniper? Although I do consider myself a sharp shooter and a very patient killer. Anywho... I currently use russian woodland camo and that blends in really nice, but its starting to not fit me well anymore and i'm going to to need new camo soon.. I want a ghillie suit but i'm curious if it would be good for me. An example of how I currently play... Find a high traffic spot, bury myself off to the side under a bush or something, cover myself with dirt, leaves, weeds, and tree branchs, then lay in wait for prey.... SO! Tell me what I should do here... More camo, or a ghillie suit... by the way ... the gun is a AK B-Spetsnaz Edited October 7, 2005 by FrostGhost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 So, say you find a Ghillie Suit that perfectly matchs the enviroment you normally play in while airsofting, would said ghillie suit be advatagous for you even if you weren't a sniper? Although I do consider myself a sharp shooter and a very patient killer. Anywho... I currently use russian woodland camo and that blends in really nice, but its starting to not fit me well anymore and i'm going to to need new camo soon.. I want a ghillie suit but i'm curious if it would be good for me. An example of how I currently play... Find a high traffic spot, bury myself off to the side under a bush or something, cover myself with dirt, leaves, weeds, and tree branchs, then lay in wait for prey.... SO! Tell me what I should do here... More camo, or a ghillie suit... by the way ... the gun is a AK B-Spetsnaz ← A thousand lashes for you for resurrecting such an old thread! A thousand more for asking about airsoft in the military forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostGhost Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 So, say you find a Ghillie Suit that perfectly matchs the enviroment you normally play in while airsofting, would said ghillie suit be advatagous for you even if you weren't a sniper? Although I do consider myself a sharp shooter and a very patient killer. Anywho... I currently use russian woodland camo and that blends in really nice, but its starting to not fit me well anymore and i'm going to to need new camo soon.. I want a ghillie suit but i'm curious if it would be good for me. An example of how I currently play... Find a high traffic spot, bury myself off to the side under a bush or something, cover myself with dirt, leaves, weeds, and tree branchs, then lay in wait for prey.... SO! Tell me what I should do here... More camo, or a ghillie suit... by the way ... the gun is a AK B-Spetsnaz ← A thousand lashes for you for resurrecting such an old thread! A thousand more for asking about airsoft in the military forum! ← LOL I didn't mean anything by it, I just did a google search on "Ghillie Suits" to find out more information on them before I decided whether or not to make the rather expensive purchase. Although I know now that this is about real military, I would still like an answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteKnight77 Posted October 9, 2005 Share Posted October 9, 2005 Your a sniper from the way you descibe how you play. A ghillie suit would be a help for you. Welcome to GR.net. Make youself at home and enjoy the offerings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcinko Posted October 10, 2005 Share Posted October 10, 2005 there isnt a big need for any camoflauge like that right now. its urban steeings, for the most part. its climbing on roof tops to support an element assualting a building. there is no crawling through the jungle right now. now airsoft, i just got a airsoft rifle, sniper rifle, gonna look for a group when i get back home. that, i can see using a ghillie, based on mett-tc. a lot of the questions asked in this forum are mett-tc, mission, enemy terrain, time, troops, civilians on the battlefield. you can gather what equipment to use based on those 6 principles. but theres no reason to get too crazy, its 6mm plastic bb's. i'm just gonna take my issue from batallion and use it. since its kinda hard to get a assualt sniper rifle for airsoft thats worth a damn, wearing a ghillie could be good. now, if you want to get schooled in shooting, come to benning i'll show you how to zero, shoot, and to deal with losing. if your gonna buy a ghillie suit go to ebay or somthing, dont buy a real one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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