Harrm Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 Two questions, if anyone can answer them: 1- Can an FM minimi SAW shoot through the armor of a hummer? How about Strykers? Or just about any other light transportation unit or LAV? 2- On the US special forces C4 remote detonator (cant find the serial code right off the bat) there is a small plug-in the is labeled ACmob on back near the primary switch, just to the right of fuse. What is it for? --Harrm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 From what I've read Hummers do not have ballistic protection as standard, and so I'd be fairly confident that the SAW, firing M855 rounds with the SS10 9steel penetrator (standard "green tip" ball), should penetrate a Humvee. The Minimi/SS109 system was after all designed to punch through ballistic helmets and vests. As for the C4 detonator, I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowFella Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I'd say anything bigger than a peashooter would knock a hole in a hummer mate! The hummer is a civilian car, the HMMWV is the military vehicle and it does have some armour plating but not enough to really stop bullets in its original configuration. Newer HMMWV's, M1114 "Up-Armed", is said to have enough armour to stop 7.62mm AP rounds though so a Minimi would have a very hard time punching though it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zantar45 Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 From the look of the questions, it seems like you have a FN Minimi SAW and a few C4 charges and are going to attack a convoy or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 I know that minimis cant punch through ASLAVs, aussie APCs. The C4 thang is a toughy. The fact it says AC may mean AC power supply, and mob might mean mobile. It could be a plug for a mobile AC powersupply, and larger battery pack maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrm Posted February 16, 2004 Author Share Posted February 16, 2004 Well, I dont have a Minimi laying around but... I did a check on ACmob but couldnt find anything on it (I'll try and get pics of it soon). I took your advice Silent night and jimmyrigged a mobile AC battery to the thing, using a US Robotics output transformer and a car battery (and a couple other odds and ends, like some resistors, a light diode and a capacitor). I tacked the ends to some steel wool and FWISH! The Wool disintegrated. I then tried it with a weaker battery, but nothing happened. The question now is "You you freakin' serious?" I mean, you cant have SpecOps running around with car batteries strapped to their backs, right? Does the military use minigenerators? Really small but powerful batteries? Any help I would be grateful for. --Harrm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 21, 2004 Share Posted February 21, 2004 (edited) Well, first of all, the M249 SAW and the FN 5.56 Minimi are two different guns. The company of FN in Belgium made their Minimi first. We actually coppied their version and modified it to fit our standards. To puncture the kevlar on a hummer, you would need to consentrate your fire in one area. If you do this, you could rip a hole through the hummer in a few seconds. Same goes for a FN Minimi. As for the C4 question... I have no idea. Edited February 21, 2004 by Aerio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrm Posted February 21, 2004 Author Share Posted February 21, 2004 Aerio: I meant the Support-only version of the minimi, not the USM 249. --Harrm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n New Guy Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 and i thought the saw m249 was only an automatic m16 5.56 rounds with steel tip penetraters goes through alot esp. in 1 area, its like getting punched in the arm, in the same spot, alot of times, its really gonna hurt after a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Well, I dont have a Minimi laying around but... I did a check on ACmob but couldnt find anything on it (I'll try and get pics of it soon). I took your advice Silent night and jimmyrigged a mobile AC battery to the thing, using a US Robotics output transformer and a car battery (and a couple other odds and ends, like some resistors, a light diode and a capacitor). I tacked the ends to some steel wool and FWISH! The Wool disintegrated. I then tried it with a weaker battery, but nothing happened. The question now is "You you freakin' serious?" I mean, you cant have SpecOps running around with car batteries strapped to their backs, right? Does the military use minigenerators? Really small but powerful batteries? Any help I would be grateful for. --Harrm i should have added a "dont try this at home" AC might be an abbreviation for a more powerful antenna maybe, so they can blow things up from the comfort of there own homes?? Im just gessing here, i have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 The SAW is a light machine gun, totaly differrent from the M16. And it has Three fire modes; fully auto, semi-auto, and offcourse no fire rate or safety or whatever it's called. But you get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 @ Harmm: Do you have a background in electronics, or do you just want to get zapped to Kingdom Come? I don't think most people realize how much current is stored in a car battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerio Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Just an interesting fact: I've got an uncle who lives in Africa and they've got these realy poisonous snakes and when you get bit by one, like say in the leg for instance, they would stick jumper cables to a car battery and then shock your leg to stun the venom so that it wouldn't spread past your leg. Then they would have more time to get you to a hospital. I thought it was pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 Just an interesting fact: I've got an uncle who lives in Africa and they've got these realy poisonous snakes and when you get bit by one, like say in the leg for instance, they would stick jumper cables to a car battery and then shock your leg to stun the venom so that it wouldn't spread past your leg. Then they would have more time to get you to a hospital. I thought it was pretty cool. That reminds me of something. Once, on the Jeff Corwin show, Jeff went to Africa to do a pit about a particular snake. The government agreed to let him in and do the piece, but only if he had a doctor, some antivenin, and a helicopter there onsite, so that he could be flown to the nearest hospital if he was bitten. Apparently, if you are bitten by this snake, you will be dead in minutes without proper care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker_USVN Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 - Can an FM minimi SAW shoot through the armor of a hummer? How about Strykers? Or just about any other light transportation unit or LAV?No it cant as far as I know on the other hand a 50cal. rifle or machine gun can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 a 5.56 steel penetrator WILL shoot through an older Humvee. it will NOT pierce the new humvees, the LAV, Stryker or any other APC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcinko Posted February 28, 2004 Share Posted February 28, 2004 i know some boys who play with c4, among other things, i'll ask em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 i know some boys who play with c4, among other things, i'll ask em. gotta have a hobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I'm still thinking of Rush Hour when Chris Tucker opens the trunk and goes... "That's sweet! That's great! What's that?" "That's C4!" "That's C4?" "That's C4!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 The he shoots the C4 car, and blows up a city block Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphon Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 "not only that, but You blew up all our evidence!!!" "That's not true.... there's still a litle bit left..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 "Sometimes, we gotta let people know that we can still blow s--t up!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage Inc. Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 Woot? The Snake stuff and the shocking, how would that work? The poison enters the veins and starts spreading ways to slow it sown are: Immobilizing the patient, mostly treating the affected limb as if it were broken. Calm him down... Maybe a tourniquet, but that only if you ain't far from a hospital, leaving the tourniquet on too long might kill the limb, releasing the tourniquet would cause a great release of poison into the body, causing a shock. Shocking the limb with electricity makes it worse, any muscular contraction cause pressure on the lymph, so DON'T DO IT. ---> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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