Swarm 0 Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 I figured Nightmare needed a place where he could tell us of the wonders of H&D2 since right now he is jumping around topics puting in a good word for it. Nightmare or anyone with H&D2/questions can ask them here if they want, just keeps it neat and tidy First question for Nightmare, what kind of multiplayer does this game have? Just coop or are there objective based team games? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 (edited) MP game modes: H&D Objectives, Occupation, Team Deathmatch. No co-op campaign missions I'm afraid. I wanted to play through the SP campaing in MP, but no co-op campaing missions. All MP modes are team based. I figured Nightmare needed a place where he could tell us of the wonders of H&D2 since right now he is jumping around topics puting in a good word for it. " Let the propaganda continue! Edited November 18, 2003 by -[NCM]- .:Nightmare:. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swarm 0 Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Sweet uniforms BTW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Picked it up a couple of days ago and I love it so far. It's got everything I like - realism, WWII, micro-management, strategy, shooting - tucked into one game. Some of the graphics could've used some more work, but that's my only complaint. (And not a very big one.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 (edited) @ Day, wanna blast online sometime? Here's some more. From left to right - Britrish standard issue battledress with summer camo jacket, British desert battledress, British pilot uniform (not sure why you can choose this uniform in MP....), British standard issue battledress with leather vest. And Day, if ya get stuck on any of the missions (some can be very diffcult if u don't know what u are doing), just PM or email about it.... No heroics! Edited November 19, 2003 by -[NCM]- .:Nightmare:. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 @ Day, wanna blast online sometime?I could give it a try, just to check out the netcode.. My multiplayer skills must be rusty beyond belief, though Not to mention that I hardly ever have time. Maybe I can sneak out some weekend while the missus is asleep... And Day, if ya get stuck on any of the missions (some can be very diffcult if u don't know what u are doing), just PM or email about it....Will do, though I have yet to encounter a shooter I couldn't beat with a little persistance Don't have much time for playing, though - especially with Rainbow Six 3 (XBox) and Max Payne 2 also taking up my time (but not as much as H&D2) - so I'm only on the fourth mission in the first campaign. I love games with Norwegian locations No problems so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 In H&D2, you'll be off to Africa next! Lots of tankbusting in Africa (including on the first mission) so make sure you pack a bazooka! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Excellent, I love some good tank bustin' I also love how your helmet flies off when it's hit by a bullet. I got into a rather heated firefight yesterday during the third mission, and when it was all over, I found myself without a helmet. Fortunately, it only flew a few meters away and it was still (presumably) in working condition. So I put it back on. I'm starting to get really attached to my main man, Sgt. Andrew Harris. I think he's the best shot of them all at the start of the game, with a decent stealth rating. The only thing that bothers me is that he starts off as a private and I want him to be the ranking officer, dammit At the moment, all the buggers are sergeants. Oh, this game has - I believe - the best implementation of bolt-action rifles I've seen in a WWII-themed game thus far. I dig the Enfield Mk. 4 and the scoped Springfield. The Carlisle Commando carbine's pretty neat too. Finally a single-player WWII game with good-looking and constantly available bolt-action rifles! (The Day of Defeat ones are great, but it's not as easy putting them to good use against human opponents - and you hardly ever got your hands on the unscoped Kar 98 in Medal of Honor.) Huzzah! *sigh* Time moves so slowly at work after I got H&D2. I yearn. Yearn, I say! Oh, sweet yearnage... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Lol! You wait til you do the missions when you scuba diving.....I had the wetsuit on and blagged a German helmet. Wetsuit + German helmet looks cool! I always have my team sorted like this: 2 guys with high strength, so they can carry heavy stuff, some good a shooting and someone good at first aid or stealth. That means - 1 sniper. 1 machine gunner. 1 medic who carries all the first aid kits (you can first aid your team mates - the higher their first aid skill level, the more health they can recover for you). 1 engineer. The engineer carries extra ammo for the rest of the team and carries the explosive charges for blowing stuff up. The medic or engineer may not be able to have a sidearm (pistol) because of all the other stuff they are carrying around. You need some one with very high stealth for 2 missions. You may also want one of them to double up as an anti tank trooper. If your anti-tank trooper has high strengh, he will be able to take a rifle with him too On the tankbusting missions you will also find Panzerfausts....and try to steal the flak truck at the end of Arfrica mission 1. It helps out alot in Africa mission 2.... Enfield Mk4 is cool! But, the scope on the sniper version isn't as good as the Springfield sniper rifle. I prefer the Enfield though because it has a higher mag capacity and a higher rpm. Remember, if ya get stuck, you know where I am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 My squad as it currently stands: -2. Lieutenant Andrew Harris is my "main guy" and the sniper. He's usually using the Enfield Mk.1 or the Springfield, though he uses the Enfield Mk.4 too when the Mk.1's not available and the Springfield's out of ammo. He normally packs a Sten (suppressed if available) or Thompson as a secondary weapon. -Sergeant Tatnell is the squad medic, loaded up on first aid kits and using his trusty M1 Carbine. -Sergeant Jan (forgot his last name, the Czech guy) is the rifleman - usually packing an Enfield Mk.4 and a Sten and loads of grenades. Or, when there's enemy armor in the picture, the Sten and grenades are swapped for a bazooka and 5-6 rockets. -Staff Sergeant Lauer is a bit of an all-rounder. For the first campaign, he was a back-up stealthy guy with his Carlisle Carbine. (Then eventually became a second rifleman with a Garand and Sten.) In Africa, he's mainly using a scavenged Kar 98, but he's packing a Bren just in case. (Haven't really needed it yet, though.) I never pack sidearms, but rather stick with two medium or heavy weapons (one in use and one on the shoulder). Generally one rifle for all-round killing and one submachine gun for close range and room clearing. Doc Tatnell's always loaded up on medical supplies, so he doesn't have much in the way of gear. Jan's got the majority of the grenades. Harris uses a bit of everything, depending on what I need to get done during the mission. He usually has a knife, a couple of grenades and whatever mission-specific equipment required. (Camera, wire-cutters, explosives..) Ammunition-wise, everyone's carrying their own ammunition only - usually as many magazines of the primary weapon that they can fit in the pouches, with 100-200 spare rounds in the backpack together with 100-150 rounds for the second weapon. I stuck with the jeep, but it quickly got its tires blown out by the planes in the second Africa mission. Man, that was a long walk... About to start on the third mission now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I did say take the flak truck didnt I? Your gunner on the mounted flak 38, 88mm flak gun on the back would have take them planes down in seconds. Tatnell is my medic too. I usually don't pack a medic for each soldier. I give as many small medikits as I can in his back pack, and I put a large medikit on his side. He say i think 70+ first aid skills so he is well good. Only use the big one if your team members are seriously wonded (health is red). Use the small ones for when they have light injuries. Don't use them if they have just lost a tiny bit of health, that is a waste. You got caught out by the tank in Africa mission 1 then? There you are storming the airfield and suddenly a tank supported by troops and a motorbike+sidecar come down the runway at you.... You say bazooka and 5 or 6 rockets? I don't remember being able to pack that many rockets! I find snipers use their ammo really quickly sometimes. So, although my soldiers carry extra ammo for themselves, I like to have someone with more extra ammo for the whole team just incase. You'll be using that bazooka alot in Africa.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I did say take the flak truck didnt I? Your gunner on the mounted flak 38, 88mm flak gun on the back would have take them planes down in seconds.Yeah.. Unfortunately, I didn't read your post until after beating the missions. Then again, the planes didn't really bother me much, and I found a stationary flak cannon by one of the surviving convoys. I even got one of the planes burning with a well-placed Enfield round. You got caught out by the tank in Africa mission 1 then? There you are storming the airfield and suddenly a tank supported by troops and a motorbike+sidecar come down the runway at you....Took me a couple of tries. I tried following HQ's advice and blowing up the fuel tanks, but it wasn't easy without explosives.. So eventually I just cleared out the visible targets with Harris (from the high ground near the insertion zone), then had the three remaining guys go right in with the jeep. They drove right up to the front door and stormed inside. Harris took out most of the troops (including the motorbike as soon as it showed up) and Jan bagged the rest through the windows. Then he equipped the bazook and sent a rocket flying through the corridor, through the door and straight into the tank. Must've hit a vulnerable spot 'cause it went up in flames. Then Tatnell and Lauer cleared the roof and front area before Tatnell grabbed the motorbike and went to fetch Harris, who then proceeded to clear the rest of the airfield with his Thompson. You say bazooka and 5 or 6 rockets? I don't remember being able to pack that many rockets!Yep - Jan managed that without problems (in his backpack). That's on top of an Enfield Mk.4 and five magazines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 We'll have to hook up sometime online m8. And btw - you can blow up they fuel tanks by firing machineguns at them. I blew them up with the Bren.... I hide behind the trees to the left hand side of the airfield with my guys who has the bazooka. I fire off a few roundas at the tank with my other guys who are positions on the sand dune nearby. I wait for that tank to come close enough, lean out round the tree, line up the sight and fire away! Have to do it quickly or the tank will the other guys in my team. <------- is listening to "Popcorn 2003". De de dede dede de, de de dede dede de.....sing it with me!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swarm 0 Posted November 22, 2003 Author Share Posted November 22, 2003 So do bolt actions play a real role in this game? Do you find most Germans with a KAR98k (which was issued to about 80% of troops in real life)? Stuff like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daywanderer 0 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 And btw - you can blow up they fuel tanks by firing machineguns at them. I blew them up with the Bren....I eventually blasted them with the flak cannon (together with the airplanes). So do bolt actions play a real role in this game?Most of the rifles are bolt-action. It seems the only semi-automatic rifles available in the game are the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine. (Though I'll admit I can't recall whether the Mosin-Nagant is bolt-action, and I've never heard of the Arisaka Meiji 38 - both listed in the manual.) Do you find most Germans with a KAR98k (which was issued to about 80% of troops in real life)?Seems it's issued to about 80% of the troops in the game as well, at least in the missions I've played. You come across the occasional MP40-toting soldiers and the Luger-wielding officers, but most of them's got the Kar 98. Might change for later missions, though, I don't know. I see the dreaded MP44/StG44 is listed in the manual... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WytchDokta 6 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 (edited) Later missions they go like 1 MP44 or ZB26 carrying troop per squad. You come accross the occasional Kar98 sniper too. And yes, the Mosin-Nagant is bolt action. So too is the Arisaka Meiji. There's also a version of the Arisaka Meiji with scope.....I have only seen that version in MP though....I must've missed it in the Burman missions. Most of the German officers on there have pistols too. The odd one will have MP40 or Kar98. Edited November 22, 2003 by -[NCM]- .:Nightmare:. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Slink 0 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 Sounds cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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